Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Miss Havisham Studios wrote:
Thank you for paying attention Jules.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Carle Photography wrote:
Ordering from a catalogue used to take 6-8 weeks.
- Now many items are shipped in 24 hours, delivered in two days.
An oil change used to take all day.
- Now you can get one done in 10 minutes.
Getting 5000 fliers printed and shipped used to take weeks.
- Now you can upload files, proof, and have them printed & shipped in 1 day.
Checks used to take a few days to clear.
- Now they are cleared instantly.
Photos used to take weeks for proofs.
- Now they take days.
We no longer have "Working days" "Business days" business is done 24/7 every day around the world regardless of time zones.
If you can't travel at the speed of business you will be left behind. You're on a roll Mariah.
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Carle Photography wrote:
We no longer have "Working days" "Business days" business is done 24/7 every day around the world regardless of time zones.
If you can't travel at the speed of business you will be left behind. How many people can travel at the "speed of business" and still get left behind because some customers just can't be satisfied so they get bad mouthed everywhere?
For instance, if a place is running a one hour photo business and they deliver the pictures in an hour but a customer wants their pictures in 20 minutes .... ??
Model
Echo_
Posts: 286
Paris, Île-de-France, France
Did you give them a time frame? You only told them your starting time, give them an actual time frame, it's all part of planning. Or let them know how many shoots you have to edit before you even get to their pictures.
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Jules NYC wrote:
What was the warrant for? Prostitution and operating a business without a license..
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
Prostitution and operating a business without a license.. Balls for being honest.
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Jules NYC wrote:
Balls for being honest. No point in lying, the records aren't sealed
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
No point in lying, the records aren't sealed True.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
Prostitution and operating a business without a license.. We really didn't need to know.
Photographer
Miss Havisham Studios
Posts: 297
Los Angeles, California, US
Jerry Nemeth wrote:
We really didn't need to know. Somebody asked. She told the truth. You're right we didn't need to know but due credit anyways. Now back to the topic at hand.
Echo_ wrote:
Did you give them a time frame? You only told them your starting time, give them an actual time frame, it's all part of planning. Or let them know how many shoots you have to edit before you even get to their pictures. One of these models has actually already received finished images, which are in my portfolio now. Again, they want them all, they want them now. Waiting patiently is an oxymoron to them. The two words can never live together in a sentence for them.
Photographer
Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
amusing haha thanks for the laugh bro
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Jerry Nemeth wrote:
We really didn't need to know. Then people shouldn't ask me questions. I'm not ashamed, nor should you be.
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
Then people shouldn't ask me questions. I'm not ashamed, nor should you be. Not sorry I asked, but I apologize for getting the snark you didn't deserve.
It's just Mayhem and I'm a curious person.
Model
KRISTEN MARIE
Posts: 484
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
All photographers I work with usually give me images the same day, or 3 days later. Never had a delay issue,yet. Models work hard for their images too, not just the photographers. They deserve the photos, afterall. & not all photographers I work with edit them, I'm also an editor, so I let them know I can do the work
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Jules NYC wrote:
Not sorry I asked, but I apologize for getting the snark you didn't deserve.
It's just Mayhem and I'm a curious person. Nothing against you Jules
Okay I'm done hijacking. Carry on
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
StevieSteve wrote:
Many women, especially the very attractive ones have always gotten everything they wanted their whole lives by guys who let them walk over them. These women are used to always getting their way. Not sure why your so surprised that would expect you as well to bend over backwards for them by giving them the prints even though you told them it may be
awhile... Wow... Misogyny, exhibit A.
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
Nothing against you Jules
Okay I'm done hijacking. Carry on Oh what the Hell. I had a warrant out for my arrest too once.
Lmao
My then future boss alerted me to it. He thought it was funny. I was all like D'oh!
Got that cleared pronto.
Anyhoo
Carry on
Model
Steve Russ
Posts: 74
Orlando, Florida, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
Lovely Day Media wrote:
I'll agree that my mother is or seems anti-men and my father was likely afraid of competition (or something similar so he always sided with my sisters) ... but that doesn't explain women getting fewer traffic tickets and thus paying lower insurance premiums. I'll go with needing better cops (and ways of rating insurance risks or not requiring insurance at all). I won't say men are better or worse drivers than women but I will say this: at one time, I was driving a 1985 Toyota pickup with liability only. My insurance was $1200 a year. I had no points and no accidents. I've never been convicted of a DUI. My younger sister had a 1999 Mercury Cougar (this was about 2001) with full coverage. She had been caught driving drunk and had 2 accidents where she ran into the back of someone (both cases). Her insurance was $600 a year.
Male: Old truck, no moving violations, no accidents, liability only = $1200.
Female: New car, many point violations, 2 accidents, full coverage = $600.
Go figure. I had this conversation with my insurance agent because of a recent rate hike. Like you, I have no accidents, tickets, or claims but I do have full coverage. I was informed that when underwriting a policy they use the following criteria:
*The number of claims, accidents, and tickets reported in the last 3 years. If you have any claims reported forget about getting insurance from anyone.
*Your credit. If your credit is jacked up, you will pay more for insurance.
*The vehicle. Common sense will tell you that someone driving a Corvette is going to be paying more than you. However, certain normal vehicles cost more to insure because of high repair costs, high theft rates, and high accident rates.
*Where the vehicle is being driven. Are you driving in a big city or some tiny never heard of city?
*Where the car is garaged at night. Ironically this is a big factor.
Mine went up because of where I live. They are redlining areas because of floods which is kind of ironic because I live in one of the highest points in the area. My agent “suggested” that I register my vehicle in another city. She did admit that a male is going to pay more until they get married.
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
P I X I E wrote:
Wow... Misogyny, exhibit A. 
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Steve Rh wrote:
*The vehicle. Common sense will tell you that someone driving a Corvette is going to be paying more than you. However, certain normal vehicles cost more to insure because of high repair costs, high theft rates, and high accident rates. A friend of mine had his insurance go up (he said, and I don't know why he'd lie about it) when he changed cars. He had liability only on both cars so it didn't make sense for his insurance to go up. The old car was a V8, manual transmission 97 or so Pontiac Firebird. The "new" car was a 1989 Toyota Camry (4 cylinder automatic trans).
It seems like the insurance would be more for the Firebird because it's a "2 seat sports car with a manual transmission" but it wasn't. Why not? He said he asked his agent and was told his rate was more for the Camry because it wasn't equipped with anti lock brakes. Guess what? He sold the Camry and bought another Firebird.
To bring this back on topic, though .... Just remind them (the impatient model) of what you promised. As someone else said, there is no need to be rude about it. I've found that calmly telling them that you promised the pictures in x number of days and it has only been y days, they'll eventually come to realize they're just impatient (if they don't already know it) and that you're a man of your word (you'll deliver pictures when you said you would and not a minute before).
Photographer
MerrillMedia
Posts: 8736
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
"Models who won't leave me the hell alone
A few more threads like this and they probably will.
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
MerrillMedia wrote:
"Models who won't leave me the hell alone
A few more threads like this and they probably will.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
Then people shouldn't ask me questions. I'm not ashamed, nor should you be. I'm not ashamed.
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Christopher Hartman wrote:
Just repeat to them what was said in your initial e-mails.
Remind them that it has nothing to do with whether or not it is difficult. This is YOUR workflow and that is how you operate. They will receive the images in a manner that was discussed prior to the shoot. this
it's not rocket science and no reason to get stroppy. If you feel someone isn't being reasonable doesn't mean you can be rude to them. Just politely remind them what you originally agreed.
if they then have a problem with that there will be very little you can do to please them.
Model
Natalia Lynn
Posts: 934
Safford, Arizona, US
*sigh* there is ALOT of stereotyping going on. Not all models just like not all people get what they want, are rude, have no patience ect ect. Everyone is different. Not every beautiful girl has a heart of ice and not every not so pretty girl is nice. Bottom line is this like i've seen before in comments here put them in the end of the line. They are no better or deserve to be pushed forward and if they complain well don't work with them again. No need to put yourself through the headaches. I for one can definitely say i'm patient and have never ever asked for pics. just me *shrugs* if i don't get them i don't call and complain i move on and don't work with them again if someone ask for a reference i state exactly how i feel. this business is not easy for either ends but can be fun, just don't let whinny bishes rude your day  that is all.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Jules NYC wrote:
I'm glad these posts are public. Much easier to weed out the rays of sunshine here!
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that is all.