Forums > Model Colloquy > "send me a nude picture of you"

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4581

Brooklyn, New York, US

Stephanie_Bee wrote:

4 R D wrote:
The only way to avoid such requests is by having examples of your nude work in your port. Now, if you are that concerned about who sees your nudes or how somebody might use them for titillation then you should probably not do nudes at all. One could even argue that you should not model altogether as any picture -even if you appear dressed- could be "perved".

It's not about being perved on, it's about having a match of intentions. Mine is to make art, especially when it comes to nudes. That doesn't mean every photographer that asks for a pre-shoot-look is not looking to make art, but that is what has been made clear to me in the experiences I have had thus far. Hopefully that changes!


Why do you only shoot sans pubic hair? And why don't you take their word for it? It's not like people are going to lie about their hair when you'll see it in a few days/weeks..

As Dr House says, "everybody lies"! If this photographer shoots "sans pubic hair" and is offering  a shoot paying $200 ( this is hypothetical), yes, a model with "abundant hair" may lie and show up, thinking she can change the photographers mind. It's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission.

Feb 12 14 05:22 am Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4581

Brooklyn, New York, US

Dean Johnson Photo wrote:

You can't tell what her breasts look like?
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30664334

I don't see any bra there.

But if that's not good enough for you, that's your prerogative and I'm fine with that.

Yeah, but the fabric is taut, pulling the breasts back and in one direction. You CANNOT tell by this image what they look like, nor can you tell areola size, shape nor color. Are they firm, pancakes, fried eggs? You won't know from this shot. Some nude photographers are very specific as to what they want to shoot.

Feb 12 14 05:22 am Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4581

Brooklyn, New York, US

Another point that has been touched on but not stated out right:
If a model says that she poses nude but nude but does not have any posted, you have to ask yourself why? Does she not want any online? Will she pose for you and then say you can't put them on your portfolio page?

Feb 12 14 05:26 am Link

Model

Miss_Bee

Posts: 149

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

There are a lot of reasons they may not have it up. Many people have separate profiles for that kind of work, there is limited space and maybe they like their other shots better, maybe they're waiting on the return of images (can take months!). The last one would be my reason, and now I have one up in my port.
smile

Feb 12 14 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

TouchofEleganceStudios

Posts: 5480

Vallejo, California, US

No way. It would take away the fun/mistery of the con of convincing a young naive model to get naked when she says "I don't do nudes".

smile

Feb 12 14 08:03 pm Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4581

Brooklyn, New York, US

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
There are a lot of reasons they may not have it up. Many people have separate profiles for that kind of work, there is limited space and maybe they like their other shots better, maybe they're waiting on the return of images (can take months!). The last one would be my reason, and now I have one up in my port.
smile

I wonder how many people just flew over to your portfolio to see it? smile

Feb 12 14 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

Eyesso

Posts: 1218

Orlando, Florida, US

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
There are a lot of reasons they may not have it up. Many people have separate profiles for that kind of work, there is limited space and maybe they like their other shots better, maybe they're waiting on the return of images (can take months!). The last one would be my reason, and now I have one up in my port.
smile

You're about as pretty as can possibly be.....there's no reason you should EVER feel the need to prove it.  Some people just use this take advantage of people....think bout it, would that kind of question EVER float on Facebook?

Feb 12 14 09:52 pm Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4581

Brooklyn, New York, US

Eyesso wrote:

You're about as pretty as can possibly be.....there's no reason you should EVER feel the need to prove it.  Some people just use this take advantage of people....think bout it, would that kind of question EVER float on Facebook?

You're not getting PAID on Facebook to look good.

Feb 13 14 07:10 am Link

Photographer

AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Eyesso wrote:

You're about as pretty as can possibly be.....there's no reason you should EVER feel the need to prove it.  Some people just use this take advantage of people....think bout it, would that kind of question EVER float on Facebook?

No as a model you are paid based on your look and you need to prove it - sort of the entire point of it really.

Feb 13 14 07:21 am Link

Photographer

DeepBluBeautiful

Posts: 1

Chicago, Illinois, US

From a photog's angle, it is a perfectly reasonable request if a model is a "yes" for nudes on their profile but their portfolio or credits do not include nude work or only include implied or overly shopped images.

From a model's angle, if a photographer is clearly an amateur or a gwc, they might just be a perv who wants to see boobies. If you will shoot with just anyone for the cash, you should expect such requests and decide where your morals lie. If a reputable, quality makes this request and you believe the 2 of you can create worthwhile images...you can't be offended if the photog does not wish to move forward once you decline.

I've been sadly surprised when a model arrives for a shoot with obvious discrepencies that wouldn't have been an issue had I known about it earlier. Honesty and communication is vital from both ends of the relationship. If a model tells me she will get me photos by tomorrow and then doesn't, I pull the offer immediately. Time is money and there are plenty of reliable models to choose from. Professionals don't chase potential models.

Mar 17 14 09:47 pm Link

Model

Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

I've gotten the question a few times but never went in on the offer, cause I got a strong creepy pervert-vibe from them. I do have updated, unetouched underwear pictures of myself, and I can provide topless if necessary, but I'm not sending out nude pics of myself to any random stranger that asks me too.

honestly, if someone is going to be that superpicky about the shape of my breasts and the shape of my ass and the shape of my whatever because it needs to look exactly a certain way for a certain shot and it's so incredibly important they know exactly what everything looks like... then they should have a casting and see me in person.

Mar 18 14 07:52 am Link

Photographer

Loves Bridal Boutique

Posts: 33

Salida, Colorado, US

PhotographybyT wrote:

Okay...if you really want me to! tongue

(haha...j/k)

+1

Mar 18 14 08:16 am Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

If you are ever on a dating site people ask for nude photos before they meet you, and not to see if your breasts are saggy without a bra for modeling... I would imagine for actual photographers, while it might be important there are a number of gwcs who will ask too. I don't care who sees me, otherwise I wouldn't have a profile. I don't mind a photog using an image he took of me as stated in our release. I do have a problem with someone posting my image on an internet porn site. And that is what happens to a lot of nude selfies. Porn is so cheap because a lot do end up on online forums and are emailed back and forth between people on them. By the time you contact the site, it's already been downloaded enough your SOL. A simply screen shot makes your password protection useless. Most people on these sites don't care if the image quality is poor.

I would recommend sending a nude photo with a huge watermark right over your body. It's good copy right. The right water mark you can still see everything. If he's a "reposter" at least you have definite legal recourse and clear copy right. Plus, he now has a ready reference to call to confirm your work smile

Mar 18 14 08:28 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11725

Olney, Maryland, US

Vito wrote:
Another point that has been touched on but not stated out right:
If a model says that she poses nude but nude but does not have any posted, you have to ask yourself why? Does she not want any online? Will she pose for you and then say you can't put them on your portfolio page?

In this case, I ask the model if she is comfortable with full frontal nudity.

There have been threads where models defined nudity in several different ways.

Mar 18 14 08:47 am Link

Photographer

Hugh Alison

Posts: 2125

Aberystwyth, Wales, United Kingdom

I wouldn't set up a nude shoot with anybody without seeing evidence she was GOOD at posing nude.

Life is too short to spend time shooting with pretty girls just because they are naked.

Mar 18 14 11:57 am Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Alannah The Stylist

Posts: 1550

Los Angeles, California, US

lynne g wrote:
If you are ever on a dating site people ask for nude photos before they meet you

What kind of dating site is that?!lol.

Mar 18 14 05:36 pm Link

Photographer

Karl Barbosa Photo

Posts: 55

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Honestly, as a general rule, if you advertise yourself as a nude model, and charge for nudes, you should have at least a couple of nude photos on your port. Period.

If you have some, no one needs to ask for photos.

When it comes to TF, I'm more lenient and would be willing to take the chance if she has a nice face and we get along well. But there would be no way in hell I'd ever offer a paid shoot to a model who doesn't have nudes on her port if she charges for those.

Mar 21 14 10:20 am Link

Photographer

Another Italian Guy

Posts: 3281

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Anna Adrielle wrote:
They should have a casting and see me in person.

Would you get naked at a casting for a nude shoot?

Serious question. I can imagine many girls would find it uncomfortable.


Hugh Alison wrote:
I wouldn't set up a nude shoot with anybody without seeing evidence she was GOOD at posing nude.

Life is too short to spend time shooting with pretty girls just because they are naked.

Damn right!





Just my $0.02 etc. etc.

Mar 21 14 10:23 am Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Vito wrote:

I wonder how many people just flew over to your portfolio to see it? smile

There are still no full nudes in her port that show fully exposed breasts, or anything else. 

Models who want to be paid for nudes and don't have any examples in their ports should expect to provide images of themselves, fully nude, it that's what they're being paid to shoot.

Mar 21 14 11:32 am Link

Model

Ann Stokes - All Natural

Posts: 77

Orange, California, US

Maybe he doesn't want to shoot with you. just collecting photos.

Mar 21 14 12:44 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

I have been burned by models whose ports do not reflect their appearance. One guy had recently posted photos.  I flew him to Houston and he looked nothing like his port. So now I request a selfie at least shirtless.  I don't ask for nude but surprisingly I often get full nudes selfie some with erections. Maybe guys are more exhibitionist.

Mar 21 14 02:16 pm Link

Model

Kerry_

Posts: 14

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:

There are still no full nudes in her port that show fully exposed breasts, or anything else. 

Models who want to be paid for nudes and don't have any examples in their ports should expect to provide images of themselves, fully nude, it that's what they're being paid to shoot.

Because this is my port for that type of work, now.

Mar 21 14 03:04 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Kerry_ wrote:
Because this is my port for that type of work, now.

Hold onto your hat, your mailbox is going to fill rapidly!! wink


PS:  Only in your credited photos (on this profile) does it show your face, so if you have a rule of not being identifiable with your nudes, you may want to mention that in the profile, otherwise presuming simply that this profile/port is under development still. smile

Mar 21 14 03:07 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Kerry_ wrote:

Because this is my port for that type of work, now.

Nice!  smile

Mar 21 14 03:15 pm Link

Photographer

Earthspirit

Posts: 189

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

"All i want is a photo in my wallet
A small remembrance of something more solid
All I want, is a picture of you.

Blondie: 'Picture This.'     Enjoy!  :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdCpi4qTNY&feature=kp

Mar 22 14 11:21 am Link

Photographer

Mantographer

Posts: 174

Atlanta, Georgia, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:

There are still no full nudes in her port that show fully exposed breasts, or anything else. 

Models who want to be paid for nudes and don't have any examples in their ports should expect to provide images of themselves, fully nude, it that's what they're being paid to shoot.

I feel like I should just link this to every model that wants to work with me who doesn't already have nude photos in their portfolio.

Because there are always surprises during a photography session, how the model's body looks should not be one of them.

Apr 03 14 02:25 pm Link

Model

dead and goneeeeeeeeee

Posts: 161

Aniak, Alaska, US

T-D-L wrote:
I assume you're talking to photographers about setting up a nude shoot, based on the "Shoot Nudes = Yes" part of your profile.  I don't see an issue with someone wanting to see you nude before they book you for such a shoot.  For some people they might be a bit picky on how you look, and don't want to waste their time. 

Ex. I've booked a model for a nude concept that had saggy breasts...never knew because all the photos she had she was wearing a bra at minimum.  Some models have horrid scars from implants, birthmarks, stretch marks, nipples pointing in random directions, etc.  So no, I don't see an issue with someone asking for a nude photo before they shoot you (again, assuming they're booking you for a nude shoot), especially since you don't have any examples of nudes in your portfolio currently.  If you had I'd be more inclined to agree that sending examples would be unnecessary though.

This pretty much sums it up. If nudity is required, then asking for a nude shot that shows what you port doesn't is reasonable. If it's not being shot then it probably doesn't matter and doesn't make sense to ask for it.

Apr 06 14 06:42 pm Link

Photographer

One Eye Blind

Posts: 547

San Martin, California, US

Originally I never would have asked for a photo prior to a shoot but I have taken heat so many times from models that have nudes = yes and then, when contacted, claim to be offended because they did not take time to make the correct choices when setting up their profile properly. As others have said, if you shoot nudes and have none to show in your portfolio then you should either be willing to share an image or change your profile. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary....

Apr 06 14 09:04 pm Link

Photographer

ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:
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Models who want to be paid for nudes and don't have any examples in their ports should expect to provide images of themselves, fully nude, it that's what they're being paid to shoot.

Totally agree.

I also think that if a model wants to do an unpaid collaboration that involves nudes, the same should still apply so that the photographer can make a decision.

Apr 06 14 09:36 pm Link

Photographer

Edwin Munt

Posts: 17

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

I agree with most other ppl on here, if we are discussing a nude shoot, knowing what they look like nude is necessary. And it is useful for planning posing. I usually ask them if they have a nude portfolio. If they don't, and don't offer to send me some on their own, I don't ask for them. Mainly because I am shy....  I think the best photos to send are un Photoshop ed front, side, and back. To keep it somewhat safe/anonymous I don't think the models face is required in any nude photo you send.

Apr 09 14 08:24 am Link