StevenDavid wrote:
I am really surprised that this thread is still here.  ...  slowly becoming a trainwreck.  ...

The thing about train wrecks is that people want to look away from them but can't. 

This particular train wreck is especially fun to look at.

c_d_s wrote:
Hire male models.

Problem solved.

They'd make mincemeat out of him.

Jerry Coleman  wrote:
You want to shoot fetish, you need to pay for it.

QFT

I know this from personal experience.

And even when you're offering to pay for it, some people simply don't want to do it. That's their choice. The ones who do want to do it will make it look better anyway.

Leroy Dickson wrote:
This thread has become a real treat.

Have we got the OP eating humble pie yet?

rp_photo wrote:
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Best response.

JEBKA Photography wrote:
I am seriously confused.
You claim to have been doing this since 1999 and now all of a sudden you have a model shortage.
What's been going on from 1999 - 2007.  No model problem?  This only started in 2008?
There is very little chance that you've been struggling with a model problem since 1999 and just now decided to air a complaint.
You've either changed something about your business model that is causing you grief, which means the answer is to change it back, or else you you are taking creative license with a 1999 claim.

Obviously, he needs to analyze his business plan and summarize with pie charts.

DarkSlide wrote:
Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.

i don't know... i kinda' like the idea...

just needs to be done right...

orias wrote:
screen models with legit references, and bypass new gals

offer pay or more pay if you already are

give them references and contact info so they feel comfortable working with you

i will be in your area in early november,  but if you'd like a reliable model asap
contact "miss alison" on my top friends list

Second the recommendation for Miss Alison, talented, beautiful, professional, and one really sweet young lady.  (No, this isn't her alternate port. )

StevenDavid wrote:
I also wonder what the OP is hiding in the first two rows of images as you can tell he placed his name over something.

Now that you mention it, you're right, there is another name or something under there he is covering.

rp_photo wrote:
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Cake and cookies work too

StevenDavid wrote:
I also wonder what the OP is hiding in the first two rows of images as you can tell he placed his name over something.

Angela Lyn wrote:
Now that you mention it, you're right, there is another name or something under there he is covering.

Looks to me like it's the URL, like in some of the other shots in his portfolio.

leebinks wrote:
Can I just say that after reading all your responses I don't think I would EVER want to work with you.
secondly stop generalizing female models as if we are all one. we are not ants.
thirdly, your style is very 'unique' the amount of people who like or even want to be associated with it are few and far between. I personally would never want to do anything in that style. though you would never work with me because, as you put it I don't have 'boobs'
so be a bit more mature about things and stop moaning.

I can't resist getting in this thread, and the chance to say leebinks is gorgeous is a great place.

[/hijack]

Oh, and I endorse the general message that, while there are problems with reliability at times, treating models with respect is pretty much always going to improve your odds of good results.

c_d_s wrote:
Hire male models.

Problem solved.

rp_photo wrote:
They'd make mincemeat out of him.

I suspect relatively few male models have satisfactory "boobs."

Eagle portrait wrote:

c_d_s wrote:
Hire male models.

Problem solved.

I suspect relatively few male models have satisfactory "boobs."

Guess you haven't seen me without a shirt????  LOL

StevenDavid wrote:
Okay, I am inspired.  I am going to post a Casting Call and do some model/food photos........

I already beat ya to it with my "Chocolate Biceps" themed video/photo shoot...and have a 2nd round scheduled. (first round was a test - it passed)

Oh and I also have a "Human Sushi Platter" video/photo shoot scheduled.

Fetish is fun!

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:

I already beat ya to it with my "Chocolate Biceps" themed video/photo shoot...and have a 2nd round scheduled. (first round was a test - it passed)

Oh and I also have a "Human Sushi Platter" video/photo shoot scheduled.

Fetish is fun!

Paul, I was going to see if you would model for me......

Scott Spellman Photo wrote:
WP-

You are having problems because most models would not want the type and quality of your portfolio pictures in their own portfolio.  As is common in the fetish/porn industry-you will have to pay your models appropriately.

-Scott

I agree with the part in bold. Nowadays it doesn't matter what site your on, or the fact that you own a camera, etc. You have to have quality in what you do to stand out as a great photog with something 2 offer a model's port. It could be possible that you are not there yet.

StevenDavid wrote:

Guess you haven't seen me without a shirt????  LOL

Male photographers, yes. 

Male models, not so much.

Amy Dunn wrote:
Can someone still get brigged for a bogus post?

Either way, the Newbie forum is a Teir 1 forum, and as I understand it, this kind of stuff is ok here.

From the rules:

Tier 1
These forums are to be used for laid back and fun discussion, while still upholding some level of order.  Tier 1 forums are:

Newbie Forum
Off-Topic Discussion
MM Soapbox
SF2

Tier 2
These forums are to be used for staying more on topic, but not as strict as Tier 3.  Tier 2 Forums are:

General Industry
Events
Travel Notices
MM Market
Site Related

Tier 3
These forums are strictly for staying on topic.  No non-sense please.  Tier 3 Forums are:

Model Matters
Photography Talk
Hair, Makeup & Styling

Amy Dunn wrote:
a-ha

Let's have fun then.

:throws a pie at Amy:

StevenDavid wrote:

Paul, I was going to see if you would model for me......

Actually I'd be honored to.

rp_photo wrote:

Have we got the OP eating humble pie yet?

There's food for thought.

Eagle portrait wrote:

c_d_s wrote:
Hire male models.

Problem solved.

I suspect relatively few male models have satisfactory "boobs."

I think you mean "moobs".

StevenDavid wrote:
This thread is making me hungry.  Maybe some cherry pie??

It's almost lunchtime here   I was going to go to Baker's Square and get a piece of pie for lunch... but they've closed down their nearby location   What a pie in the face.

Rachel Jay wrote:

It's almost lunchtime here   I was going to go to Baker's Square and get a piece of pie for lunch... but they've closed down their nearby location   What a pie in the face.

I would rather have a banana split.   LMAO

StevenDavid wrote:
I would rather have a banana split.   LMAO

Oooh that makes me wish there was a Sonic nearby so I could get one of their tiny banana splits and a hot dog.


And win an award for eating the most phallic lunch

StevenDavid wrote:

I would rather have a banana split.   LMAO

Don't give anyone ideas for more shoots.

StevenDavid wrote:

I would rather have a banana split.   LMAO

Don't give anyone ideas for more shoots.

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either.  I do look very hard in finding female models.  The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.

Wow, that long? I'm sorry 2 hear that.

Kemmie T x10 wrote:
Wow, that long? I'm sorry 2 hear that.