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Photographer

AJ_ajphoto

Posts: 49

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

SteveL Images wrote:
And that quarter you found under your pillow the night you put one of your teeth under there? That wasn't the tooth fairy, that was your parents.

Are you serious? What about Santa?

Jan 06 10 04:32 pm Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

Pterigiontuurani wrote:
what do you expect with posts such as yours?

PYPI FASHION wrote:
Another hit and run poster.

Well this first one is an observation that the OP is another one of many people who post an inflammatory post, sit back and watch the shit hit the fan. Sometimes they are known as trolls. Another possibility is the OP quickly realized he is getting his ass handed to him so he is wisely staying out of the thread to avoid further spanking. Since the OP is relatively new with little history, it is hard to tell which category he falls into.

PYPI FASHION wrote:
I know what you mean. I would never expect someone I respect to do porn. I thought all porn actors were crack whores worthy of no respect whatsoever.

This second post is known as sarcasm. The point of sarcasm is to have an outwardly appearance of agreeing with someone's point while simultaneously disagreeing with their point by pointing out the absurdity of their statements by agreeing with them. When done properly, it often generates lols, giggles, high fives, and +1s. The younger generation may display their endorsement by posting something like "burn" or "pwn'd". When done improperly, it often results in someone misunderstanding and replying with a serious retort because they are not sophisticated enough to recognize sarcasm when they see it.

Jan 06 10 04:35 pm Link

Photographer

Laura Dark Photography

Posts: 6812

Columbus, Ohio, US

Doug Swinskey wrote:

Justin Hall wrote:
Wait... wait... Women enjoy sex? ;-)

i worked this dude about 20 years ago...he swore that women didn't have orgasms....
he told me he had been with plenty of women and none of them had orgasms...

I'll tell you (as a woman) he was doing it wrong.

Jan 06 10 04:35 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

DocG1 wrote:
I was recently surprised and shocked to find that 2 of my favorite MM photographers were lawyers on the side. How can they have any self-respect after that? And what about their families? Filthy perverts.


OP: Get over it.

There's nothing to get over, I wasn't offended at all, just surprised that those 2 particular models did that kind of work. I actually can respect what they did, I was just amazed that it was kept so quiet more than anything else.

Jan 06 10 04:39 pm Link

Model

MissSybarite

Posts: 11863

Los Angeles, California, US

Laura Dark Photography wrote:

I'll tell you (as a woman) he was doing it wrong.

Very wrong big_smile

Jan 06 10 04:40 pm Link

Photographer

Pondalee

Posts: 1861

Glendale, California, US

There's one woman I know of who does adult erotica (because I never watch porn!).  I enjoyed her portfolio then found a reference to her on an adult entertainment site (because I don't watch porn).  I've seen a couple of her independent art films (because I don't watch porn) and I now find her to be absolutely fascinating.

But I don't watch porn, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Jan 06 10 04:41 pm Link

Model

Victoria Leigh

Posts: 1086

The Woodlands, Texas, US

Why am I hearing a J Geils Band song running through my head as I am reading this?

I've experienced the same revelation regarding some of my model peers in the past, many of whom were well respected/at the top of their game (guess now I know why).

Hmm, actually we may be talking about the same people, although I'd guess that the porn industry is larger than the modeling industry (no pun intended).

Jan 06 10 04:42 pm Link

Model

Bon voyage MM

Posts: 9508

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

SteveL Images wrote:
And that quarter you found under your pillow the night you put one of your teeth under there? That wasn't the tooth fairy, that was your parents.

WHAT?!

This thread is just shocking enough, I can't take anymore reality. You need to know when to quit. So much as utter a word about the Easter Bunny and it's war.

Jan 06 10 04:42 pm Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

LR Photo Designworks wrote:

There's nothing to get over, I wasn't offended at all, just surprised that those 2 particular models did that kind of work. I actually can respect what they did, I was just amazed that it was kept so quiet more than anything else.

It's kept quiet because Model Mayhem does not permit porn networking.

Jan 06 10 04:42 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

Dudley Watson wrote:

It's been said before, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof!"  If you can't (or won't) name names, then you may be considered 'suspicious' in your 'truth' telling.

Providing proof would be outing and that's against the site rules.

Jan 06 10 04:42 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Why would anybody be surprised that a) people enjoy sex and b) enjoy being paid for it?  hmm

I wouldn't be surprised to find that any model also did porn and I certainly wouldn't be surprised to find that I've worked with a few that do although it's not something I would ask about or feel the need to be aware of.

I might be a bit disappointed if somebody I considered a personal friend kept it from me, but again I wouldn't really be surprised as too many people are very judgemental about sexual expression and porn in general and unless you know somebody's view on the subject it's probably easier/safer just not to mention it.


Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Jan 06 10 04:43 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

PYPI FASHION wrote:

It's kept quiet because Model Mayhem does not permit porn networking.

Yes that's 100% right, but many people network and communicate off the site that things like that usually get out there and rather quickly.

Jan 06 10 04:43 pm Link

Photographer

GD Whalen

Posts: 1886

Asheville, North Carolina, US

Unless someone is doing something that directly affects you why would you care what anyone else does or doesn't do with their lives??   Live and let live is a VERY good policy in my mind.

Jan 06 10 04:45 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

PYPI FASHION wrote:

Pterigiontuurani wrote:
what do you expect with posts such as yours?

Well this first one is an observation that the OP is another one of many people who post an inflammatory post, sit back and watch the shit hit the fan. Sometimes they are known as trolls. Another possibility is the OP quickly realized he is getting his ass handed to him so he is wisely staying out of the thread to avoid further spanking. Since the OP is relatively new with little history, it is hard to tell which category he falls into.





This second post is known as sarcasm. The point of sarcasm is to have an outwardly appearance of agreeing with someone's point while simultaneously disagreeing with their point by pointing out the absurdity
of their statements by agreeing with them. When done properly, it often generates
lols, giggles, high fives, and +1s. The younger generation may display their endorsement by posting something like "burn" or "pwn'd". When done improperly, it often results in someone misunderstanding and replying with a serious retort because they are not sophisticated enough to recognize sarcasm when they see it.

I undestand the post as sarcasm.
I do not feel your post nor many others as a valid a
or seious attempt to discuss the issues involved or the intent of the OP's post.

back to the topic and allowing you to hand people their asses.

Jan 06 10 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

MisterC

Posts: 15162

Portland, Oregon, US

Fifi wrote:
This made me giggle.

Mission: Accomplished.

(Was is a full giggle?)

Jan 06 10 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

LR Photo Designworks wrote:

Yes that's 100% right, but many people network and communicate off the site that things like that usually get out there and rather quickly.

Are you disappointed you didn't find out earlier. This reminds me of the episode in The Office when Dwight moved the water cooler next to his desk.

Jan 06 10 04:47 pm Link

Model

Paper Doll Nudes

Posts: 206

Chicago, Illinois, US

GD Whalen  wrote:
Unless someone is doing something that directly affects you why would you care what anyone else does or doesn't do with their lives??   Live and let live is a VERY good policy in my mind.

+1

Jan 06 10 04:48 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

GD Whalen  wrote:
Unless someone is doing something that directly affects you why would you care what anyone else does or doesn't do with their lives??   Live and let live is a VERY good policy in my mind.

The original point wasn't to judge anyone at all. I was more curious as to find out if anyone else had an experience where a model that is well known in the industry and respected had ever done any porno work. I wasn't trying to judge anyone or say I was offended at all. Literally nothing offends me at all.

Jan 06 10 04:49 pm Link

Model

Bon voyage MM

Posts: 9508

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

LR Photo Designworks wrote:

The original point wasn't to judge anyone at all. I was more curious as to find out if anyone else had an experience where a model that is well known in the industry and respected had ever done any porno work. I wasn't trying to judge anyone or say I was offended at all. Literally nothing offends me at all.

There are a lot more than 2, so be prepared for some more surprise in your future.
Modeling, no matter what genre you are in, has the habit of being a verrrryyy slippery slope.

Jan 06 10 04:52 pm Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

Pterigiontuurani wrote:
I undestand the post as sarcasm.
I do not feel your post nor many others as a valid a
or seious attempt to discuss the issues involved or the intent of the OP's post.

back to the topic and allowing you to hand people their asses.

No. Many replies on this thread and many others on Model Mayhem is not of the serious nature. In fact, the creator of this site even coded in certain emoticons that are purely for entertainment. He went as far as writing code to change the word s c a r y to scary. Such is the risk and nature of starting a thread in a non industry forum on a site called Model Mayhem.

Jan 06 10 04:53 pm Link

Photographer

jimmyd

Posts: 1343

Los Angeles, California, US

In spite of the seemingly open-minded attitudes by many in this thread regarding chicks doing porn, for the chick who does porn, often enough, there are negative consequences. Consequences that can effect their current and future relationships, career opportunities, and more.

The majority of people in this country don't view performing in porn as an acceptable or morally-right or simply okay occupation. The majority in this country are quite judgemental people. Too many young women decide to go into porn for the wrong reasons. (Altho when they do, they don't usually see it that way.)

Just because a narrow demographic, like photographers and models here in this forum, mostly see porn as acceptable, leastwise for others, doesn't mean most other demographics do so as well.  I'm just saying.

Jan 06 10 04:54 pm Link

Photographer

SusiB

Posts: 532

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

Are you talking about modeling for paysites or full blown out penetration porn? There's tons of models on this website that model for paysites- and some don't even realize it when they shoot with the photographer.

Jan 06 10 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

Dudley Watson

Posts: 1737

Roseburg, Oregon, US

Dudley Watson wrote:
It's been said before, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof!"  If you can't (or won't) name names, then you may be considered 'suspicious' in your 'truth' telling.

LR Photo Designworks wrote:
Providing proof would be outing and that's against the site rules.

If you can't back up your statement, then why did you start this thread in the first place?  Need some attention?

Jan 06 10 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

LR Photo Designworks wrote:

The original point wasn't to judge anyone at all. I was more curious as to find out if anyone else had an experience where a model that is well known in the industry and respected had ever done any porno work. I wasn't trying to judge anyone or say I was offended at all. Literally nothing offends me at all.

Your previous post indicates you are aware of the no outing rule so now you are asking us to out members who do porn? Or are you just looking for a yes or no answer.

My answer is yes I am aware.

Jan 06 10 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

PYPI FASHION wrote:

Your previous post indicates you are aware of the no outing rule so now you are asking us to out members who do porn? Or are you just looking for a yes or no answer.

My answer is yes I am aware.

Like I said in my original post "with out  naming anyone specific", I never asked for a name, just a yes or no.

Jan 06 10 04:58 pm Link

Model

Tasha Rox

Posts: 1

Arlington, Texas, US

Don't judge a book by it's cover!!!!  Not everyone with in the adult industry is shit... It's just a path they chose to make...

Jan 06 10 05:00 pm Link

Photographer

LR Photo Designworks

Posts: 322

Sussex, New Jersey, US

Dudley Watson wrote:

If you can't back up your statement, then why did you start this thread in the first place?  Need some attention?

Again the original point wasn't to judge anyone at all. I was more curious as to find out if anyone else had an experience where a model that is well known in the industry and respected had ever done any porno work. I wasn't trying to judge anyone or say I was offended at all. Literally nothing offends me at all.  It has nothing to do with attention. I've been here since 2005, more than happy to fly under the radar. I generally try to stay away from controversial threads. I didn't intend for this one to blow up like this.

Jan 06 10 05:01 pm Link

Photographer

Henri3

Posts: 7392

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

It's my impression that courtesans were well respected members of society in some countries, ages.


Playmates are respected by many (models) who turn their noses up at nudes,

No this isn't the same as the sex "industry" but then, there are many ways to view this matter.
And it's mostly non of our concern wht a woman does with her property or her body.

I don't see the point of this inquery, however curiosity is a trait we all possess,

Jan 06 10 05:01 pm Link

Model

Alisyn Carliene

Posts: 11756

San Bernardino, California, US

I think that the respect, popularity and money only double if a model does porn. Us models like money and popularity... I have not done porn before ever but I'm trying to make a point on why some models who already have a good name would go into porn. Porn is an easy way to get more noticed and make more money. What can I say, sex sells.. Some models may have gotten popular off their porn first and your just barely learning about it..

Jan 06 10 05:02 pm Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

What a gossipy man. Dude you have lost your man card!

None of your motherfucking business!

Jan 06 10 05:02 pm Link

Photographer

W Davis Photography

Posts: 1840

Acworth, Georgia, US

So what's the problem?

Jan 06 10 05:02 pm Link

Photographer

jimmyd

Posts: 1343

Los Angeles, California, US

Henri3 wrote:
And it's mostly non of our concern wht a woman does with her property or her body.

Until the issue of abortion rears its head and then all hell breaks loose.

Jan 06 10 05:05 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Hall

Posts: 1169

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

yup!
my favorite model from prior years (NOT on my portfolio) turns out had done some porn in his past, and has now returned to the industry, and is very successful at it.
at first i was only surprised, having worked with him numerous times and simply never having known nor heard about it in the small town area we lived in at the time.
i think it's great if he's succesful at it and is happy.

Jan 06 10 05:05 pm Link

Photographer

Dee EN

Posts: 420

Los Angeles, California, US

DocG1 wrote:
I was recently surprised and shocked to find that 2 of my favorite MM photographers were lawyers on the side. How can they have any self-respect after that? And what about their families? Filthy perverts.


OP: Get over it.

big_smile

Jan 06 10 05:07 pm Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

jackspencephoto wrote:
It would be great for more women to enjoy sex, and be honest about it!  Damn social constraints... And not the good kind of constraints...

I've never been on a porn set, so I've always wondered how enjoyable the sex could be.

Uhh-uhh-uhh-oh, fuck me harder--
CUT! Jimmy, could you move over that way? You're blocking the camera. Okay. Action.
Oh, fuck me fuck me fuck-
CUT! Dammit, who stepped into the light? Jimmy, let's redo that from the last thrust.
Oh baby, ohh ohh ohh-
MAKE IT MORE CONVINCING! Jimmy, slam her!
OH BABY OH BABY-
Better.
I'm gonna cum! Gonna...cum...
Fine. Jimmy, what about you? PULL OUT, YOU FREAKIN' IDIOT! WE NEED THE MONEY SHOT!

Jan 06 10 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

Ohio Images-Sara

Posts: 290

Cleveland, Ohio, US

Anyone who can make a buck with what they got more props to them smile

Jan 06 10 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Doug Swinskey wrote:

Justin Hall wrote:
Wait... wait... Women enjoy sex? ;-)

i worked this dude about 20 years ago...he swore that women didn't have orgasms....
he told me he had been with plenty of women and none of them had orgasms...

What exactly do you mean by "you worked this dude"?

Jan 06 10 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

Larry Dandridge

Posts: 189

Edmond, Oklahoma, US

Things chance, look at all the actors that do nude roles. Money talks, some grow up!!!!

Jan 06 10 05:10 pm Link

Photographer

Sun Studio

Posts: 793

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

I don't care if I'm shooting a film... or casting a stills series.. If someone has chosen to do adult work, AND if they're talented as a non-adult actress or model, then I simply find that the adult models who are already more exposed and (no way to avoid this pun) open in their physicality... can also be more emotionally available as an actor or model**, because Guess What?... It's a Job... and It's a skill and a talent to be able to effectively portray the desired end "character" on film/video, no matter the genre/media.   In some French, Mexican cinema, etc.  the actors actually have sex when "God forbid" in USA cinema, they are usually pretending to have sex. But we expect in USA cinema that we can show a little, but not a lot, or not a certain thing but that the actors are usually only pretending.   What a partitioning of parts.   The partitioning or pretense is much more deceptive than whatever someone has chosen to do as a profession.  More power to clear thought and individual freedom to decide!  [**footnote: they "can be" more available as an actor/actress, but that's assuming they have a raw/innate talent to begin with]

Jan 06 10 05:11 pm Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Porn Stars are well respect in my book, so as escort girls.  I would rather work with them than newbie models on MM full of  cell phone pictures in their port.  big_smile

Jan 06 10 05:12 pm Link