JoJo wrote:
did you check this?
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_ … id=2277764

RSH-Photography wrote:
When you check this, there's a note at the end which says:

"Forum contest
I don't think you entered the forum competition in the past 15 days."

What contest does this refer to?

Thanks

The PotD-OE
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=807268

zoomring photo wrote:
Cutest chick with a nice furry ass and a spiked dog collar in the F POTD today. ;->

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … view/51097

Such a nice pussy pic

billy badfinger wrote:
What happened to todays winners???...(yesterdays entries!)
It's almost 4pm est and still no results posted...

The results are right here
https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … ups/121029

Why aren't they showing here https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/potd18/female
Another glitch in the contest code - it was reported months ago - we're working on it

RTG Photography wrote:
How does an image that was on the vote not appear on the final tabulation page, specifically the final vote page posted today, 10/31.

As I put on my mind reader's cap...
Your entry was disqualified as it violated MM's image rules.
Want more info... we can do it privately in CAM or we can do it here in public.

RTG Photography wrote:
Second question: the same model in question, a past two time winner, has had at least 5 recent entries by three different sources, herself and two photographers, not be included in the applicable different day's contests. Is there a restriction once someone wins?
Thanks.
Note: those entries were not past winning images.

Are you privy to the entries of other members?

Z_Photo wrote:
it is apparently what the voters want to see.  now and then something else slips in to the top slot.  maybe even a few more recently.

Well...most heterosexual males are visual...and are hardwired to like porn images...which is why there is an abundance of porn sites.  I like spread shots as much as the next guy.

The underlying question here is if the MM contest should become one of quasi-porn images at the expense of actually encouraging artistic photography?

David Lumen Photography wrote:
Monday's contest was my reason for visiting this thread to begin with...

Even with Monday's spread lip photo removed, the winner is of a model with legs WIDE open.  The previous winner was also WIDE open.  Many of the winners are WIDE open, with one of them from this past week actually displaying the vaginal orifice. What's going on here?

I have an entry into today's contest, and a model is using her fingers to spread her vaginal lips.

Now then, I personally believe there is a lot of room to show the genital area of a woman without overly sexualizing it, but it appears that one's chance of winning the contest almost demands a spread leg shot with a good view of the woman's genitalia.  Most definitely, this substantially increases the chances of winning...and has nothing to do with good photography.

Perhaps it's time to consider another contest group...18+ (Explicit)?

I've won about 5 times and I've never even shot a spread shot, hell... I don't even know any models that would let me.

A good image of an interesting subject increases your chances of winning, nothing else.  Every once in a while a crappy image sneaks in, but as a general rule the spread shots that win display quite a bit of skill by both photographer and model.  If that's happening, I'm fine with it.  I'd much rather see a very well done spread shot than yet another "nude by river" or "nude by rocks".

Besides, this is 18+.... there's only 3 or 4 things that can make a picture qualify... and vaginas are one of them.

billy badfinger wrote:
Hi JoJo,
I'm wondering...since I am just a lowly "Basic" member,is it impossible to claim a winners badge for my win on the 25th???
Or did I miss something in the instructions?
Thanks in advance...

As a lowly "Basic" member you don't have access to BBCode on your account so no, you can not display the highly coveted "Winner's Badge" graphic.

You may make an "I won the PotD18+" statement and even link to your win.

Here's the code: (please remove the asterisk)
[*url=URL of your winning image in the PotD18+]Whoop-de-doo, I'm a weiner![/url]
(you can change the text too )

David Lumen Photography wrote:
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Not polite to out a disqualified entry.

David Lumen Photography wrote:
Perhaps it's time to consider another contest group...18+ (Explicit)?

No

Perhaps it's time for me to start outright banning (or heavily sanctioning) spread rule violators on a "1 strike" basis.

Gaze at Photography wrote:
Never a dull moment...

Just like herding cats

David Lumen Photography wrote:
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JoJo wrote:
Not polite to out a disqualified entry.

My apologies.  I agree...outing is not a good thing.  However, I really did not think this qualified as outing.

David Lumen Photography wrote:
Perhaps it's time to consider another contest group...18+ (Explicit)?

JoJo wrote:
No

Perhaps it's time for me to start outright banning (or heavily sanctioning) spread rule violators on a "1 strike" basis.

(And just when I thought I would start entering a lot of in-your-face crotch shots. )

I'm amused at how people won't read a post, yet are quick to assume what it says.  Hey...for the record...I am not one of those that has a problem with crotch shots...at all...or however explicit.  I photograph them frequently myself.  I just don't enter them because it appears the rules forbid them.

I was simply pointing out that the bar had been raised recently with photographs whose sole intent was to show genitalia...such as spread lips.  And the way I read the rules...this is not allowed...yet it has been happening.

I made my point.  The rules provide a kind of censorship and limitation on what is allowed, and if the rules aren't going to be enforced, then it makes sense to expand into another category that allows the forbidden images.

So...please don't characterize me as someone that wants to sanitize the 18+ contest.  I would love to see more, and classier images, of the total woman...with genitalia and all.

zoomring photo wrote:
These discussions never go anywhere good. If you don't like a given image, don't vote for it.

The basic message behind an 18+ contest is that the human body should not be an object of shame. Anyone can disagree with that idea, but they would be better off hanging out in places populated by others of like mind.

If you are referring to my post, please read it again.

And please don't presume I think the human body is an object of shame...or that I am trying to impose some kind of self-righteous morality upon the 18+ contest.  Save that lecture for someone else.

I routinely capture sensuous images of women masturbating, as I consider this to be a very natural and healthy human activity...and which also needs greater acceptance as being a normal part of a woman's sexuality.  I would like to enter some of these erotic images into the 18+ contest, because they are quite good, but the way I read the rules...they are not allowed.

It might be nice, however, to have a contest where they would be allowed. 

zoomring photo wrote:
>>I would like to enter some of these erotic images into the 18+ contest, because they are quite good>>

I would like for you to be able to enter them as well. I consider tasteful erotica a form or art.

Thank you!  Tasteful erotica is a form of art.  I'm working on a way to share these images online outside of MM.  I'll send you a link when I get that set up.  'Would definitely appreciate your opinion.

David Lumen Photography wrote:
I routinely capture sensuous images of women masturbating, as I consider this to be a very natural and healthy human activity...and which also needs greater acceptance as being a normal part of a woman's sexuality.  I would like to enter some of these erotic images into the 18+ contest, because they are quite good, but the way I read the rules...they are not allowed.

It might be nice, however, to have a contest where they would be allowed. 

zoomring photo wrote:
I would like for you to be able to enter them as well. I consider tasteful erotica a form or art.

These images are not permitted on MM and they are not permitted in the PotD18+.
Images that comply with the MM image rules are allowed.

I am sure that there are many sites out there in internet-land that will welcome your images of such content.
MM is not one of them.

zoomring photo wrote:
A Dude? I don't see any salami in the shot, just a nice chiseled ass and a 5 o'clock shadow. Objection overruled.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … view/52405

I thought mods looked at pics before they could be posted...

Maybe I can enter nude hamsters in a contest. 

Or llamas, promiscuous ones...

zoomring photo wrote:
>>Maybe I can enter nude hamsters in a contest. 

Just be sure they keep their paws together and NO upside-down shots.

U N C E N S O R E D

Paws spread wide.

Hanging down, showing e v e r y t h i n g, and Jo Jo can't stop me...

Keys88 Photo wrote:

What the hell does the race of the models have to do with the site rules??

SMFH!!

Do the site rules still say that MM reserves the right to ban any member for any --or no-- reason?

+1 ....

billy badfinger wrote:
My submissions for the 8th & the 9th didn't show up and the Sendu tool doesn't show that I even entered anything on those dates...
(LOVE that tool BTW...Brilliant!)

What happened?

Both were DQd as violations of the "emphasis on genitalia" rule.

billy badfinger wrote:
I'm very curious how the entry for today violates that rule...
if you have a moment to educate me,i'd appreciate that.

The emphasis is clearly on the models feet and in fact her genitals only
occupy a VERY tiny portion of the frame.Most people have to look twice to even notice that she isn't wearing panties.

So,just for future reference,HOW is this ruling applied to entries?
Clearly it's NOT based on the actual % of the picture that the genitals occupy...(in this case less than 8%.)...and it's not based on the classic
"rule of 3rds" composition criteria that typically determines where ones eye
is drawn when viewing a photo...so,exactly what are the specifics
re: "emphasis" here in the Mayhem...is there some "formula" that is used
or,is it so subjective that it can't be explained in words.

As always,thank you in advance.

Take a look at the pic you entered.
What about the pic makes it 18+?
Is there anything other than genitalia in the pic that could qualify the pic as 18+?

There is no mathematical formula involved.

billy badfinger wrote:
Really???
Is this a strange case of "less is more" or more accurately,
"less is too much"...???

If her naked boobs,torso and hips were visable,
would the pose be accepted?

Not trying to be overly facetious but its more a case of "the only thing is too much"

Edited and/or posed differently?
It would be a different image and as such considered on it's own merit .