James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

I know I'm not a model, I'm not at all very suave in front of a camera... But if I were I would be far more hesitant over modeling lingerie versus a bikini. A beach shoot in a two piece bathing suit and not a thong bottom is often looked at differently than a shoot with the model wearing lingerie. I know for a fact that if lingerie photos showed up of me and my bosses saw them I wouldn't get nearly as many patients as I do, if they kept me on staff at all [I'm a home hospice nurse for geriatrics] whereas I would not suffer the same consequences from a swimsuit image.

James_Cessna wrote:

Why so? Why does that go out the window. Aren't the principles still the same?

You have GOT to be kidding me....

Catalog shoot for VS = great money, awesome photos, great credit/accomplishment.

Thong/lingerie pics with GWC from Model Mayhem = .... do I even need to explain?

Jenn Whitten-Hancock wrote:

Aw, but some people just like to cuddle and hold hands. That's super fun, too. *Cough*

Jenn,

This is a little "edgy" for me, but I'm willing to give it a try ;-)

James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

I'd wear a thong if I had to, but I'd rather not.  They chafe.  I'll end up spending my time trying to yank them out of my ass. 
I'd rather wear cheekers panties, a g-string is fine too.

lingerie sets are typically see-through.

bikini's are not.

Regardless I'd wear either one for a shoot, doesnt matter to me.

James_Cessna wrote:

But don't they though, because I've seen some bikinis that are very revealing and generate sexual thoughts. I understand your example about the 15yr perfectly, but I mean in a modeling aspect. Like a 27yr old person difference.

That's the thing though, the example, well, exemplifies why some models feel lingerie isn't appropriate while bikini is. It doesn't matter how old the model is in this case, the example says, "you wouldn't put a kid in one, whereas you could put a kid in the other" 

Regardless of age the model feels that it's inappropriate for some kinds of people to wear the lingerie because of the message that lingerie would send about the person.

Sophistocles wrote:
I don't understand.

If you're doing a shoot that calls for a particular wardrobe and a model won't shoot in it, you move on to the next model.

Why the controversy?

That sir, is the correct answer.

Tom Rinard Photography wrote:
I agree.  I can't get models to wear thongs.  And I also have models that will shoot in two piece swimsuits but not bra and panties.  I'm very interested to see the responses!

I agree, I can't get them to wear them also...they just want to run around naked!  ;-)

Val Reese wrote:
It's pretty standard for me... 

I always wear a thong when I shoot.

I used to, but then the models told me it looked like a rubber band on an egg...

~~shrugs~~

K I C K H A M wrote:

I won't pose nude.

And if I decided to pose nude, it sure as heck wouldn't be for playboy.

+1.

Michelle Mignonne wrote:

Damn straight

If someone were to ask a photographer if they were willing to spend a week camping in the bone dry desert heat to get some shots they would probably say no until National Geographic comes calling for shoot in the desert, or Victoria's Secret for that matter.

Bella del Giorno wrote:

If someone were to ask a photographer if they were willing to spend a week camping in the bone dry desert heat to get some shots they would probably say no until National Geographic comes calling for shoot in the desert, or Victoria's Secret for that matter.

actually, they probably wouldn't.

James_Cessna wrote:

Why so? Why does that go out the window. Aren't the principles still the same?

if you were as well known as "victorias secret" you wouldnt have a problem either.. its the concept that your pushing your limits for something unimaginable rather than pushing your limits with someone named "James Cessna"..   

not trying to be offensive at all!

James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

1. Yes.
2. No, not to me.

(European.)

Mischa M wrote:
Maybe some women dont want their ass cheeks flopping around?

Amen

Jenn Whitten-Hancock wrote:
Swimwear ------> Swimming

Lingerie -------> Sexy time

yep!

Ms Selina K wrote:
I do a fair amount of lingerie work, but I take issue with thongs because I hate the damn things. In my opinion there's nothing sexy or glamorous about them, and well your ass is hanging out so not much of a pair of "bottoms" really. I don't even wear them for my fiance (and like myself he's all about the lingerie and me dressing up).

Lingerie and swim wear are different in the regard that lingerie is intimate wear. It implies sexuality more so than a swimsuit, even though they both may show the same amount of skin. It's about the purpose, not the amount of material.

We should do a lingerie shoot

James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

1. I'll wear a thong, no problem as long as it's clean/new or one of mine. Umm... I would because sometimes it works for the shot. I'll also wear ruffly panties, g-strings, bloomers, or whatever else, or nothing at all.

2. To me the only difference is that I can wear a swimsuit (with a full, non-thong bottom) out in public where I live, whereas I can't do that with lingerie. Otherwise my comfort level doesn't change.

However, to me there are three levels:
1. Fully clothed (as in something I could wear in public)
2. Covered, but not publicly acceptable (sheers, lingerie, etc)
3. Nude
Those aren't my limits, I really don't care if I'm nude or not, but they do mean different things for where I can pose and where the photos can be displayed (for my own ports).

Bella Erotic Imagery wrote:
Thongs IMHO are tacky for photo shoots UNLESS it is being modeled for sell. I wont allow even my clients to wear them if it was meant to be seen

Difference between lingerie' and swimsuits is this

Lingerie'- Is intimate wear. Its under wear. Not meant to be seen by the general public in normal conditions.

Swimsuits- No matter how skimpy, is accepted to be worn in public

K I C K H A M wrote:
Why is it acceptable for a girl to walk around outside in a swimsuit but not lingerie? There is clearly a difference-- and that difference is social connotation.

I won't shoot in these-- but I am also not a glamour model.

Just out of curiosity, what's the "social connotation" of this outfit?



It's not a thong, and I'll leave it to the viewer whether it's lingerie or a swimsuit.  What's important is, she looks great.

Sophistocles wrote:
You wanna be? Let's pretend for an afternoon and see what happens!

K I C K H A M wrote:
Is someone going to let me borrow boobs?

I don't consider boobs, or at least any particular size of boobs, essential for a nude shoot.  I suspect he feels the same.  But, how about you pretend he doesn't and come give it a try with me. 

MikeRobisonPhotos wrote:

Bella Erotic Imagery wrote:
Thongs IMHO are tacky for photo shoots UNLESS it is being modeled for sell. I wont allow even my clients to wear them if it was meant to be seen

Difference between lingerie' and swimsuits is this

Lingerie'- Is intimate wear. Its under wear. Not meant to be seen by the general public in normal conditions.

Swimsuits- No matter how skimpy, is accepted to be worn in public

Just out of curiosity, what's the "social connotation" of this outfit?



It's not a thong, and I'll leave it to the viewer whether it's lingerie or a swimsuit.  What's important is, she looks great.

I can't really see the outfit, actually, so I couldn't tell you.

Miss_May_ wrote:
A bikini doesn't imply anything. Lingerie implies that you're getting ready to seduce.

Would you rather have a picture of yourself/your daughter/wife/mother/whatever on facebook in a bikini or lingerie? (though neither is probably a good idea...)

I've shot maybe 40 to 50 models in lingerie.  Perhaps 1/3 at most implied that they were "getting ready to seduce."

I looked; there are 6 images in this port, and one in my "commercial" port with a model in lingerie.  I don't consider any of them seductive.

K I C K H A M wrote:
I can't really see the outfit, actually, so I couldn't tell you.

It's a link to the larger picture, which might help.

But, here  (this is even bigger, she should have it):

MikeRobisonPhotos wrote:

It's a link to the larger picture, which might help.

But, here  (this is even bigger, she should have it):

Honestly, that looks more like swimsuit than lingerie to me.

MikeRobisonPhotos wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what's the "social connotation" of this outfit?



It's not a thong, and I'll leave it to the viewer whether it's lingerie or a swimsuit.  What's important is, she looks great.

I'm not quite sure what your point is, but that's clearly not lingerie.
The social connotation of it is 'I'm about to jump in a pool'.

This is lingerie: http://www.agentprovocateur.com/lingeri … nders.html

James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

Glamour models that won't wear a thong? You're joking, right? Heh.

1. Yes, I'd wear a thong. Not for a glamour shoot, as I don't shoot glamour. I want to be an alternative/fetish model. I'm open to ideas.

2. Yes. Swimsuits have the weird material by your va-jay jay!

James_Cessna wrote:
I have talked to serveral models before shoots to dicuss their outfits for the shoot. Some of them will not wear a swimsuit thong or lingerie thong. Some will. I feel that wearing a thong bottom is almost standard now for glamour modeling. I've also talked with some who will wear a two piece swimsuit but will not wear lingerie. What's the difference? They show the same amount. So my question to you is

1. Would you wear a thong? Why or why not? and
2. Is there a difference between a 2 piece swimsuit and a lingerie set?

All answers respected (because everyone is different) and appreciated.

I heard a fashion critic say that the thong was on its way out. And that was several months ago.

valentinesbaby wrote:
I would rather be shot nude than with a string flossing my bum. Thongs are trashy and unsexy.

Hmm. I hate when people say that.. Like one model said I was unclassy cause I model thongs. I think thongs can be presented in a classy way.