Forums > General Industry > Photographers have you ever felt unsafe with model

Photographer

Fotografica Gregor

Posts: 4126

Alexandria, Virginia, US

twoharts wrote:
yeah i have one where we mutually decided that a "no hug" policy would be in our best interests.

sometimes i get these really big hugs from my paying customers (especially maternity). i guess they're just happy that i was able to make some nice images for them.


That is probably wise - but a bit boring for me -  I prefer to play the edges smile

Nov 30 12 10:02 am Link

Photographer

Azimuth Arts

Posts: 1490

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Imageography wrote:
Never felt unsafe with a model, I'm usually worrying about making sure they feel save and have their own space to work in without a fat sweaty photographer getting in their face.

I've never once been in your studio.

But seriously, never felt unsafe about the models I have worked with (and I hope the same is true for them about me).  Didn't care for the one time I was waiting alone in a dark alley with a couple lights and my camera gear while the model, MUA and my assistant (studio owner) were up in the studio while the model changed got touch ups.  Everything was fine.

Nov 30 12 10:04 am Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Models occasionally beat me up with their Manolo's and Jimmy Choo's.

Nov 30 12 10:13 am Link

Photographer

JohnnyK

Posts: 408

Westlake Village, California, US

Never felt unsafe in the model's presence, but I was worried before the shoot.

In 2006 a Texas model contacted me via omp, saying she would be in SoCal in two weeks

Nov 30 12 10:21 am Link

Photographer

henrybutz New York

Posts: 3923

Ronkonkoma, New York, US

One time, a model leaned over to kiss me on the lips as she finished the shoot.  I nearly fell over backwards in surprise trying desperately not to make physical contact.  She was so offended that she never spoke to me again.  I don't have a problem with models kissing me good-bye; I just need a little warning.

One model asked if she could tie me up and spank me.

One model sat down at the kitchen table after the shoot and pulled out a crack pipe for a little smoke.

Only one model ever intimidated me.  She had grown up with 6 brothers.  Just looking into her wild eyes, one could see she'd kick arse if ever provoked.

Nov 30 12 10:31 am Link

Photographer

FullMetalPhotographer

Posts: 2797

Fresno, California, US

Never felt uncomfortable with shooting a model, because my journalism background I shoot just about everyone under the sun.

I would one of the most uncomfortable shoots was shooting a 16 year old girl was very beautiful, bright and intelligent for a news story who's mother was dying of cancer. The mother informs us the daughter has a brain tumor that was inoperable just before the shoot and that the daughter did not not know this yet.

Nov 30 12 10:33 am Link

Photographer

Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

yeah sad they're scary

Nov 30 12 10:45 am Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

Photographers are creepy people... The harder you try not to seem creepy the more you look it.

Lets just face the fact that in this life time that it's most likely models will always feel unsafe with photographers then photographers will feel with models.

Who gives a fuck about equipment, all materialistic stuff that can be bought again. If you are only afraid for your equipment that just shows a lot about your character.

PEACE! big_smile

Nov 30 12 10:46 am Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Erlinda wrote:
Photographers are creepy people... The harder you try not to seem creepy the more you look it.

Lets just face the fact that in this life time that it's most likely models will always feel unsafe with photographers then photographers will feel with models.

Who gives a fuck about equipment, all materialistic stuff that can be bought again. If you are only afraid for your equipment that just shows a lot about your character.

PEACE! big_smile

I'm just glad you're not tormented by being afraid of yourself!! wink

Nov 30 12 10:51 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Erlinda wrote:
Photographers are creepy people... The harder you try not to seem creepy the more you look it.

Lets just face the fact that in this life time that it's most likely models will always feel unsafe with photographers then photographers will feel with models.

Who gives a fuck about equipment, all materialistic stuff that can be bought again. If you are only afraid for your equipment that just shows a lot about your character.

PEACE! big_smile

You're creeping me out!

Nov 30 12 10:55 am Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

DougBPhoto wrote:

I'm just glad you're not tormented by being afraid of yourself!! wink

LOLZ lol

Nov 30 12 10:56 am Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

K E E L I N G wrote:

You're creeping me out!

wink It's a photographer thing LMAO!! lol

Nov 30 12 10:57 am Link

Model

Kelly Ann Carter

Posts: 93

Hollywood, Florida, US

I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Nov 30 12 10:59 am Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Only a close minded dumb ass would think this!! roll

Nov 30 12 11:01 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

LoL, you just called the guy sweetie in the same sentence that you're saying girls don't sexually harass guys.

Thanks for playing.

Nov 30 12 11:03 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

dp

Nov 30 12 11:04 am Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Speak for yourself.  big_smile

Nov 30 12 11:10 am Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

DougBPhoto feels less safe now.

Nov 30 12 11:11 am Link

Photographer

Kev Lawson

Posts: 11294

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

MelissaAnn  wrote:
Speak for yourself.  big_smile

Why does it seem to me all the cool girls are from the NW? wink

Nov 30 12 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Gabby57

Posts: 470

Ponca City, Oklahoma, US

Erlinda wrote:
Photographers are creepy people... The harder you try not to seem creepy the more you look it.

Lets just face the fact that in this life time that it's most likely models will always feel unsafe with photographers then photographers will feel with models.

Who gives a fuck about equipment, all materialistic stuff that can be bought again. If you are only afraid for your equipment that just shows a lot about your character.

PEACE! big_smile

Right, so now I'm not only "creepy" but have a flawed character because I don't want to be stolen from. 

To answer the question posed, I give a fuck about things I worked to pay for whether or not I could afford to buy them again.

Nov 30 12 11:20 am Link

Photographer

Star

Posts: 17966

Los Angeles, California, US

No, but I have felt unsafe around other photographers. I have had photographers in a group setting act in ways that made my skin crawl and there were a couple who really freaked me out.

Nov 30 12 11:36 am Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Girls like (look? Like?) you need a few things, knowledge on a subject before speaking about it would be a good start.  neutral

Nov 30 12 12:38 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8908

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I always bring a escort.. so no problems yet smile

Nov 30 12 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

Mr Banner

Posts: 85322

Hayward, California, US

one model wanted me to get him off.  I felt unsafe around his penis, so I didn't accept the shoot.

another model, who was an escort, probably had her pimp in the back room.

Nov 30 12 12:54 pm Link

Photographer

Mr Banner

Posts: 85322

Hayward, California, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys.

The law disagrees with you.


Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

so a photographer, shouldn't feel safe?

Nov 30 12 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

Hero Foto

Posts: 989

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

typical response from a card carrying lifetime member of the he-woman man haters club ...

Nov 30 12 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Earlier, I said yes as a joke.

Ironically, I just remembered a time I really DID feel scared with a model.

She was driving and I was the passenger  yikes

I was skeered for my LIFE !!!


Has anyone mentioned cooties? yikes

Nov 30 12 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Gabby57 wrote:
I wondered how long it would take for this to get posted.  As someone new to shooting models, security, rather than safety is a concern. 

Shooting at home means you are allowing a complete stranger, sometimes accompanied by an "escort" into your home.  That is not a popular idea with the wife to begin with, and may end up shortening this phase of my photo hobby if she doesn't feel warm and fuzzy about the models who do come over.

The "escorts" part is completely optional on your part.

As far as the models, same advice I'd give a model, check references and trust your gut.

Nov 30 12 01:05 pm Link

Model

Aussiekylie

Posts: 743

Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia

S W I N S K E Y wrote:
yes, always, they're frightening..

love it.

Nov 30 12 01:06 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

DougBPhoto wrote:
Earlier, I said yes as a joke.

Ironically, I just remembered a time I really DID feel scared with a model.

She was driving and I was the passenger  yikes

I was skeered for my LIFE !!!


Has anyone mentioned cooties? yikes

Models have been some of the worst drivers I've ever met, holy shit.

Nov 30 12 01:32 pm Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23798

Orlando, Florida, US

Of course, I'm old and brittle  .  .  .  jest tyin' my shoes is scary  .  .  .  wink

SOS

Nov 30 12 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

Jamtron Studio

Posts: 1066

Venice, Florida, US

When I was starting out and TFP actually meant the model got prints, a guy I had worked with wasn't happy with number of prints we had agreed on. Seems he has worked with another photographer that gave him more. He was a big guy, and showed up with an even bigger friend to try to intimidate me to give him more prints. He did a little yelling and I told him to leave. A friend of his told me he wanted enough prints to give all his girlfriends.

Nov 30 12 01:38 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45317

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Only one time!  I was kidnapped by two women I met at a nightclub back in 1992.   They followed me to my studio that night, and we shot pictures on black and white film.  Long story short, there were no witnesses.  They took me from the studio to my darkroom, made me process and proof the film.  Took the film and proof sheets with them and of course I never heard from them ever again.  I learned my lesson about finding "models" at nightclubs! 

Never have I felt afraid of any models I've worked with over the years when it comes to meeting them in the normal realm of things.  Modelmayhem is a great place to find models to work with!  All you have to do is use common sense.  Take time to get to know people.  Check out references.  That sort of thing.  Too bad there has to be so much fearmongering on the forums!

Nov 30 12 01:43 pm Link

Photographer

L o n d o n F o g

Posts: 7497

London, England, United Kingdom

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Hey, thanks for the cool story sweetie!

Nov 30 12 01:52 pm Link

Photographer

Woven Thought

Posts: 329

Petersburg, Virginia, US

Well, I always am a little on edge meeting someone where there really isn't anyone else present and I just don't know them.  I'm sorry, but it is a tad unsafe. 

I've had three model shoots and all brought escorts and all made me more uncomfortable for a bit.  I couldn't really see them and really, did I know them?  So far, all has been fine, but part of me wonders when that will change. 

As to the hugs, well, that's ok as long as they aren't of the lingering or rubbing sort!  smile  And truly, it doesn't matter what sex you are or they are for that, as gender preference seems to be out the window particularly in the arts.

Nov 30 12 02:02 pm Link

Photographer

All Yours Photography

Posts: 2731

Lawton, Oklahoma, US

Laura UnBound wrote:

Models have been some of the worst drivers I've ever met, holy shit.

It surprises me, the number of models, some in their 20's, who still don't have a driver's license (they use a state ID).  I pestered my parents to get mine as soon as I was legally able to.

I've never felt unsafe around a model, but my wife worries that one of them is going to set me up to be robbed.

Nov 30 12 02:02 pm Link

Retoucher

Ledo retouch

Posts: 1184

Lodi, California, US

I was working at a studio and pet sessions had to be the last appointment
of the day. The receptionist was mildly allergic and woman with the dog
was late, I thought she wouldn't show so I told receptionist she could go
early. I love dogs and figured if she came, I could play with the dog while
she got ready.

Should have sent her on her way when she arrived twenty minutes before
closing, but I really needed the commission. She's wearing an overcoat
with a giant Rottweiler attack dog in tow. I did my best, but Cujo is snarling
at me in most shots.

Nov 30 12 02:06 pm Link

Photographer

Woven Thought

Posts: 329

Petersburg, Virginia, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Oh please!  Are you being sarcastic?  Yeah, I know it's usually the men wanting the women sexually but women can be just as screwy, just from a different angle.  You know the whole saying, men give love for sex and women give sex for love, a lot of truth to that.  And screwed up is screwed up!  That knows no gender!

Nov 30 12 02:09 pm Link

Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13564

Washington, Utah, US

I've never really felt unsafe, but I realize being falsely accused of something is always possible.  I've never yet had that happen with a model but have seen it happen in similar circumstances.

The biggest safety risk associated with most shoots is driving to or from it, but since I have a home studio, I don't worry about that either.

Everything in life has risk.  It's worth giving some thought to risk, but worrying accomplishes little.

Nov 30 12 02:58 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Kelly Ann Carter wrote:
I think its the other way around sweetie. Girls dont sexually harass guys. Girls look me need to feel safe not a photographer.

Next!!

Nov 30 12 03:18 pm Link