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Photographers have you ever felt unsafe with model
Erlinda wrote: I'd prefer not to be robbed Nov 30 12 03:23 pm Link Models often get all handsie but all you can do is check refrences...  Nov 30 12 03:24 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: References that they are handsie or aren't handsie? Nov 30 12 03:34 pm Link Kelly Ann Carter wrote: So let me get this straight. You're basically saying that female photographers and male models don't exist, right? Nov 30 12 03:42 pm Link London Fog wrote: Sometimes, they are inseparable!!:-)) Nov 30 12 03:46 pm Link I've had models pull concealed weapons twice. Neither were threatening, however one of the models did suddenly increase her rates after getting out the gun. I'm not sure if was deliberate or accidental. I didn't argue, I just quickly finished the shoot and paid the higher rate. I feel like I was robbed, but gently. Nov 30 12 03:53 pm Link No.....but once i was quite annoyed by her escort family member taking photos of everything backstage (never again this will happen) Nov 30 12 03:57 pm Link Kelly Ann Carter wrote: That's quite the sexist prejudicial blanket statement you have there. Nov 30 12 03:58 pm Link intense puppy wrote: Yes Nov 30 12 04:00 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: Good answer Nov 30 12 04:06 pm Link I have a couple of stories where I felt unsafe or at least intimidated. Many years ago circa 1988 I recruited amateur models from local gyms and had a studio in my smallish apartment livingroom. Well the appointed hour came and the model showed up. Great. The only problem was not only was he drunk but he broght 3, yes 3! pals along with him..... Anyway 4 large muscular intoxicated men in a small livingroom studio was a bit crowded. Myabe he felt uncomf0ortabel photographing with a gay guy and brought reinforcements. I was certainly intimidated and afraid of waht they might do. They at least were at the happy-loud stage stage not the mean-aggressive stage but still. Luckily the three escorts got bored in about 15 minutes and left to score more beer. But even slightly drunk guys often lose control of the fine facial muscles that control expressions and the ability to keep their eyes fully open. The pics were useless. The secoind time was in the 1990s when a guy I did not know presumed on a mutual acqyuaintance to introduce himself to me as a "model manager". He broungt an exceptional looking man for me to photograph. He was a bidybuiklder, very muscular. A nice guy studying to be a chiropracter buteh manager started directing the shoot, helping him pose by touching his body to move it into position and rubbing baby oil on him in what I felt was sorta creepy. Anyway the shoot went well but then I mae my mistake. A couple weeks later this so called manager proposed a daisy chain shoot where he would arrange to bring 5 models by at one hour intervals for me to do a qucik shoot. It was a TF shoot where I got to photograph male models and the kids, which is what they were, got free photos.. They were all at least 18 but were very young and not hat I would consider model material..... they seemed more like street hustlers. What scared me is when the second guy to show up started to change he had a large knife strapped to his ankle. That was the end for me. Plus he refused to sign a model releases. So I ended teh shoot and gave an earful to teh manager. A couple hours later teh manager returned to my home and said the knife weilder has left his wallet in side. I let him in t osearch for it.... I knew it was not htere. Then he said since I ended the shoot he wanted the signed model releases back and the film. I destroyed the releases and opened the film canisters in front of him and unrolled the film. He really wanted teh pics but he got nothing but exposed film. That was the worst session I ever had. Nowadays the one who is scared is my partner of 28 years. He thinks every model will either beat me up and rob me or scope out the house and send their thug friends to rob and kill me later. An elderly, half blind, homosexual, photographer with lots of high dollar equipment makes a tempting target he says. He says I cannot see the evil in people but I feel I have much less to fear now than I did in the 1980s when I started out. Young folks nowadays are much more tolerant of gays than ever before in my lifetime. Back in the 1970s I was assaulted twice on public streets for being perceived as gay. Very little of that happens now and I certainly feel safe in my own home with models I get from MM. Nov 30 12 04:59 pm Link Orcatek Photography wrote: If anything, the photographer is more at risk, both during and after the shoot. Nov 30 12 05:04 pm Link Erlinda wrote: Are you one of those naive people who thinks complying = not being harmed? Nov 30 12 05:05 pm Link Samantha Emme wrote: yea!! Nov 30 12 05:09 pm Link Kelly Ann Carter wrote: A llama who I'd worked with twice before started asking me out of the blue if I'd ever been with a Black woman or wanted to. She then asked if I would show her my thing. Somehow I laughed it off and the shoot continued, but that was the last time we worked together. The llama in question was around 40 and married with children. Nov 30 12 05:20 pm Link rp_photo wrote: She just wanted to look at the camera!! Nov 30 12 05:23 pm Link Abbitt Photography wrote: That is exactly how I was kidnapped by the two women. My studio was in a isolated location at night. Everything seemed great until right after finishing the shoot. They knew where my darkroom was ... and threatened to accuse me of molesting or attempting to rape the one while the other would be the witness. They were from Germany, staying here as nannys. I had not looked at their ids, and they told me that "this is how we get portfolios done in Germany!" All they wanted from me was to shoot the black and white film ... which I did, and then process, print proofs and give them all those. They would never bother me again once I did that. So I went along with it. This is the only time, and I blame myself for being so naive back then. Nov 30 12 05:25 pm Link UltimateAppeal wrote: Within moments after the incident, which was about halfway through, it was as if nothing happened and the shoot went on for the expected amount of time and yielded some great images. Nov 30 12 05:29 pm Link Kelly Ann Carter wrote: Stop me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the best way to feel safe be to not shoot with anybody (of either persuasion) who makes you feel unsafe? Nov 30 12 05:32 pm Link Rays Fine Art wrote: You can't always see trouble in advance. Nov 30 12 05:34 pm Link Bill Sylvester wrote: This is why I always have my little friend in my pocket ( NAA 22Mag. ). Nov 30 12 05:38 pm Link George Ruge wrote: Pug, Black Widow, or other? Nov 30 12 05:47 pm Link Never, it's hard for buck Naked llamas to take anything and run faster than a fit photographer with Nikes on Nov 30 12 05:53 pm Link Well, that is why I am on the set! They are always after him! Poor guy! I am there to make sure he is safe and unmolested. I protect him from all the unwanted advances he encounters. Like Helmut's June, I am the one he goes home to when he is done with all the beautiful women he works with. (okay, on a more serious note...) We communicate. We work as a team. We listen for the flake factor. I have never felt like any of our models have been unsafe to work with. Nov 30 12 06:03 pm Link rp_photo wrote: Just the standard, not the short barrel. Nov 30 12 06:10 pm Link Nov 30 12 06:15 pm Link Orcatek Photography wrote: Someone had to come back with a BS thread...good job. Nov 30 12 06:19 pm Link Art Silva Photography wrote: Good thinking... because a dressed man chasing after an undressed woman would naturally result in people quickly identifying you as the victim and that she needs to be apprehended rather than rescued. Nov 30 12 06:27 pm Link Orcatek Photography wrote: GCobb Photography wrote: Soooo, safety of photographers is BS Nov 30 12 06:30 pm Link Art Silva Photography wrote: DougBPhoto wrote:
Nov 30 12 07:42 pm Link The disparity between the average man and average female in terms of all aspects of strength make me wonder, how COULD I ever feel unsafe with a model? I guess if I was a skinny or obese man that couldn't do a single pushup, and I hired a crack whore/body builder (my favorite kind of slashie) model... then theoretically, yes, I could be a photographer afraid of a model. Dunnow. You don't see dudes leaving the gym late at night looking over their shoulders, afraid of women of extremely feminine features to jump out of the shadows to mug or rape them. Nov 30 12 08:19 pm Link Roy Linn wrote: It's more about the company some of them keep. Nov 30 12 08:39 pm Link Kelly Ann Carter wrote: So many things about this = #fail Nov 30 12 08:52 pm Link FlirtynFun Photography wrote: I was thinking the same thing. That, and if a photographer ever felt unsafe around me I don't know if I could stop laughing long enough for us to get any useable images. Nov 30 12 08:58 pm Link Roy Linn wrote: Averages mean nothing in a specific situation. For that matter, not all models are female, and not all photographers are male. Nov 30 12 09:06 pm Link I tear apart every photographer's studio within seconds of setting foot on site and burn the whole building when I leave. Yes. People are afraid of me. Terrified. Petrified even. WIth that said, I'm shocked at some of the stories I read!!!  Crazy crap....Nov 30 12 09:18 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: Yeah and the cameras strapped around her neck and a wallet in her hand wouldn't raise suspicion? Nov 30 12 09:19 pm Link Miss Deux wrote: ummm we're shooting at Your place next time Nov 30 12 09:21 pm Link No 1 ever hits on me I'm too old and hardly attractive to the average male model. After all I am 3 times their age. It is one of the few advantages of advancing age. Nov 30 12 09:40 pm Link Art Silva Photography wrote: Honestly? No. Nov 30 12 09:44 pm Link |
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