Patchouli Nyx wrote:
if that cabin had a crawlspace or a basement it could be a while before they find a body.

In the Charles Bronson/Lee Marvin movie Death Hunt, CB's character barricaded himself in a log cabin out in the snow and it was blown up by a posse/Mounties. When they moved in to look for a body he was hiding in the basement with a shotgun. I hope this dude has never seen that movie.

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:
I'll be very surprised if he got out. I agree he'll likely be found with a self inflicted gunshot wound. IF he did get out, this is one of the biggest fumbles in law enforcement history.

if he got out, his offical nickname would be the mole.

he didn't get out.

Flash N Burn wrote:
In the Charles Bronson/Lee Marvin movie Death Hunt, CB's character barricaded himself in a log cabin out in the snow and it was blown up by a posse/Mounties. When they moved in to look for a body he was hiding in the basement with a shotgun. I hope this dude has never seen that movie.

lol, i was going to mention that movie, but figured nobody had ever seen it.

Cuica Cafezinho wrote:
CNN can't seem to make up its mind.

you can't makeup what you don't possess. you should see the local coverage. i don't know how these people have jobs.

GK photo wrote:
oh wow, the dude's mom was sitting in a mexican restaurant watching it all happen live on tv while sipping wine and eating chips. she denied knowing him to a reporter.

god, i can only imagine what his family is going to have to live through.

Seems they were estranged.

T wrote:

Seems they were estranged.

yeah, i could see that. she'd probably had enough of it too. there were ex gfs that didn't speak to highly of him either, but hell, i can't go that route in good conscience.

GK photo wrote:

Flash N Burn wrote:
In the Charles Bronson/Lee Marvin movie Death Hunt, CB's character barricaded himself in a log cabin out in the snow and it was blown up by a posse/Mounties. When they moved in to look for a body he was hiding in the basement with a shotgun. I hope this dude has never seen that movie.

lol, i was going to mention that movie, but figured nobody had ever seen it.


you can't makeup what you don't possess. you should see the local coverage. i don't know how these people have jobs.

What you are seeing there must be fascinating. Horrible, but fascinating.

GK photo wrote:

yeah, i could see that. she'd probably had enough of it too. there were ex gfs that didn't speak to highly of him either, but hell, i can't go that route in good conscience.

Yeah, ex-girlfriends tend to be bitter.

T wrote:
Seems they were estranged.

GK photo wrote:
yeah, i could see that. she'd probably had enough of it too. there were ex gfs that didn't speak to highly of him either, but hell, i can't go that route in good conscience.

lots of people have exes who don't speak highly of their former loved ones.

and from what I read, a couple of those exes had no room to speak IMO.

Sal W Hanna wrote:
The difference is that he's shooting those that are tasked with protecting the public.

Gonzales v. Castle Rock

Law Enforcement does not have a responsibility to protect the public.

Patchouli Nyx wrote:
and from what I read, a couple of those exes had no room to speak IMO.

yeah, but i haven't seen anyone come out and speak about the guy in a good light. you'd have thought in a week they could find someone.

cnn had a college buddy of his on tonight. the guy was struggling with the emotions of having been a friend of his, and what he had seen him do.

sounds like his family had the same issues.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:

I agree. 

His actions were unarguably wrong according to my values.  Just as law enforcement unloading on a truck with two paper ladies was unarguably wrong.  Just as a cops beating the holy hell out of Rodney King was wrong.  Just as using drones to assassinate targets while slaughtering innocents is wrong. 

But some of these things are viewed with outrage.  Some are dismissed as somebody's else's problem.  And some are officially sanctioned as 'the right thing to do'. 

That doesn't seem so black and white to me anymore.

Well said.

Michael Bots wrote:
Officers yell "Get the gas, burn it down" during Dorner, police shootout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sisVskohj1k

"At about the 1:24 mark, you hear someone say "Burn it down". Another says "go get the gas". Another says "yea, burn it down". "

check out the comments.

Patchouli Nyx wrote:
and from what I read, a couple of those exes had no room to speak IMO.

GK photo wrote:
yeah, but i haven't seen anyone come out and speak about the guy in a good light.

one ex posted the guy's badge number and name on girlsdontyadaredate.com (or something like that).  to me, that's 1 step short of posting someone's nasty bits on a revenge porn website.

ex wife says she was embarrassed to have been married with him but he used to stay at her house up until...a few months ago.  So she still maintained some sort of relationship.

a third ex :

Dorner also filed a restraining order against an ex-girlfriend who worked for the LAPD Crime Lab while he lived in Las Vegas. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that he filed a temporary protective order against her last May in Clark County Family Court.

The order said that she threatened to kill herself after Dorner told her that he didn't want to speak to her anymore. He called police on her after she continued to bang on his door and rang his doorbell. Police warned her to leave. He said that a few days later the Los Angeles Police Federal Credit Union reported that someone had tried to change the password to his account. Evidence showed the request came from his ex-girlfriend's home address. This restraining order was granted, but Dorner wrote in his "manifesto" that he was angry that she continued to stay on in the force despite her hacking attempt.

http://laist.com/2013/02/09/exes_call_c … parano.php


interesting question why folks who are trying to commit crimes are able to still work for the LAPD.

GK photo wrote:
oh wow, the dude's mom was sitting in a mexican restaurant watching it all happen live on tv while sipping wine and eating chips. she denied knowing him to a reporter.

god, i can only imagine what his family is going to have to live through.

What a dumb ass reporter.  Obviously following her around.  I fucking hate the media when they do this shit.

Christopher Hartman wrote:
What a dumb ass reporter.  Obviously following her around.  I fucking hate the media when they do this shit.

she wasn't following her around. she didn't even know it was her until after the mom left. the restaurant had to inform her. she just asked her and her friend if they knew him, or anyone that might. they both shook their heads no.

the reporter was just asking patrons generic questions. it was bizarre.

GK photo wrote:

she wasn't following her around. she didn't even know it was her until after the mom left. the restaurant had to inform her. she just asked her and her friend if they knew him, or anyone that might. they both shook their heads no.

the reporter was just asking patrons generic questions. it was bizarre.

A reporter just happened to be at the same place as this guy's mom?  I'm not buying it.

Paramour Productions wrote:

LOL. They're legal and not at all uncommon among competitive long range shooters.

People hear silencers and they think of mafia hitmen.

Christopher Hartman wrote:

A reporter just happened to be at the same place as this guy's mom?  I'm not buying it.

Until I see some links, I'm not buying any of it. The mom has been holed up in her house and calling police every time a reporter has knocked on the door.

Christopher Hartman wrote:
A reporter just happened to be at the same place as this guy's mom?  I'm not buying it.

jesus h, i'm buying stock in reynolds wrap tomorrow.

the chick was in la palma (you know, right next door to you) using the head in the restaurant as the story unfolded. she didn't even know who she was talking to. the restaurant staff informed her after dorner's mom and her friend left.

the mom got agitated and asked the staff if anyone knew who she was.

here:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/ … -standoff/

Cuica Cafezinho wrote:
CNN, AP, others can't seem to make up their mind.



BIG BEAR, Calif. (AP) — The extraordinary manhunt for the former Los Angeles police officer suspected of three murders converged Tuesday on a mountain cabin where he was believed to have barricaded himself inside, engaged in a shootout that killed a deputy and then never emerged as the home went up in flames.

A single gunshot was heard from within, and a charred body was found inside.

It's not CNN and the AP. It's the flippin police dept.

They said they found a body and now they say they didn't.

WTF?

They're all full of shit.

Sorry if I don't believe cops -- in my own neighborhood the streets will be blocked off and when you go and ask what is going on they have attitudes and tell you don't worry about it and go back in the house.

And then nothing about it on the news or the police blotter.

Yeah sorry this just reinforces my mistrust of the police. They lie. They cover up.

They forget who they work for.

GK photo wrote:

jesus h, i'm buying stock in reynolds wrap tomorrow.

the chick was in la palma (you know, right next door to you) doing a generic crowd interview as the story unfolded. she didn't even know who she was interviewing. the restaurant staff informed her after dorner's mom and her friend left.

the mom got agitated and asked the staff if anyone knew who she was.

here:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/ … -standoff/

And I'm telling you, I'm not buying it. I think they knew she was there and they are acting all innocent.  A chance sighting of his mom while her son is burning alive/dead in a cabin surrounded by police?  They'd swim though disease ridden shit to be near her.  Why else would they be in La Palma?  Did HE live there?

IBS wrote:
It's not CNN and the AP. It's the flippin police dept.

They said they found a body and now they say they didn't.

WTF?

They're all full of shit.

Sorry if I don't believe cops -- in my own neighborhood the streets will be blocked off and when you go and ask what is going on they have attitudes and tell you don't worry about it and go back in the house.

And then nothing about it on the news or the police blotter.

Yeah sorry this just reinforces my mistrust of the police. They lie. They cover up.

They forget who they work for.

hah! yeah I've seen that happen one late night, cops blocked off the one bridge between Baltimore and Dundalk. I asked why as I was turning onto the exit ramp "don't worry about it, nothing to see here"  no news

logistically, the middle of that bridge would be a great place to do anything

Christopher Hartman wrote:

And I'm telling you, I'm not buying it. I think they knew she was there and they are acting all innocent.  A chance sighting of his mom while her son is burning alive/dead in a cabin surrounded by police?  They'd swim though disease ridden shit to be near her.  Why else would they be in La Palma?  Did HE live there?

dude, she got no film of the mom. the film supplied in the story was from surveillance cameras in the restaurant. it wasn't an official interview. if she knew it was her, she would have had cameras blazing.

they're reading your mind, man!

GK photo wrote:
oh wow, the dude's mom was sitting in a mexican restaurant watching it all happen live on tv while sipping wine and eating chips. she denied knowing him to a reporter.

god, i can only imagine what his family is going to have to live through.

You have a link for that?

GK photo wrote:

dude, she got no film of the mom. the film supplied in the story was from surveillance cameras in the restaurant. it wasn't an official interview. if she knew it was her, she would have had cameras blazing.

they're reading your mind, man!

Get out of my head!!

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:

hah! yeah I've seen that happen one late night, cops blocked off the one bridge between Baltimore and Dundalk. I asked why as I was turning onto the exit ramp "don't worry about it, nothing to see here"  no news

logistically, the middle of that bridge would be a great place to do anything

They might be saying that there is nothing to see because...think about how MANY people are...

"Hey, what's going on?"

"Some guy got hit by a car and died."

"Who?" or "Hit and run?" or "was he crossing the street?" or "was he drunk?"

they don't want to play 21 questions.  Just easier to tell you to get lost.

GK photo wrote:
you can't makeup what you don't possess. you should see the local coverage. i don't know how these people have jobs.

+1

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:

hah! yeah I've seen that happen one late night, cops blocked off the one bridge between Baltimore and Dundalk. I asked why as I was turning onto the exit ramp "don't worry about it, nothing to see here"  no news

logistically, the middle of that bridge would be a great place to do anything

They suppress crime statistics too. The police chief in Boca finally got nailed on that and lost his job.

I don't see any of the nonsense that goes on in my town on the news or the blotter -- and some of it I have seen with my own eyes.

I listened to the police spokesman say that they found the body and they identified it as Dohners. They were going into the building with a dozer and " Peeling back the layers like an onion" and now they have not been inside.

What a load of crap.

Caradoc wrote:

...or the Branch Davidian compound at Waco.

That wasn't the result of incendiary devices.  The fires were set internally by the Davidians.

Christopher Hartman wrote:

They might be saying that there is nothing to see because...think about how MANY people are...

"Hey, what's going on?"

"Some guy got hit by a car and died."

"Who?" or "Hit and run?" or "was he crossing the street?" or "was he drunk?"

they don't want to play 21 questions.  Just easier to tell you to get lost.

I am sorry but if you are in my front yard and you have all the exits to my street blocked off and I can't go anywhere and the helicopters are shining floodlights into my backyard I think I have the right to know if there is someone running through my back yard or if I need to go lock my doors.

And then cops complain that people don't cooperate.

Gee I wonder why.

IBS wrote:

They suppress crime statistics too. The police chief in Boca finally got nailed on that and lost his job.

I don't see any of the nonsense that goes on in my town on the news or the blotter -- and some of it I have seen with my own eyes.

I listened to the police spokesman say that they found the body and they identified it as Dohners. They were going into the building with a dozer and " Peeling back the layers like an onion" and now they have not been inside.

What a load of crap.

yeah NYC is a really safe city.........

except NYPD has been busted suppressing crime statistics too

bit disturbing though

Let There Be Light wrote:

That wasn't the result of incendiary devices.  The fires were set internally by the Davidians.

There is conflicting information on this. Also on who fired the first shots. Either way, the ATF and FBI don't look good. Pumping flammable gas into a burning building?

IBS wrote:

It's not CNN and the AP. It's the flippin police dept.

They said they found a body and now they say they didn't.

WTF?

They're all full of shit.

Sorry if I don't believe cops -- in my own neighborhood the streets will be blocked off and when you go and ask what is going on they have attitudes and tell you don't worry about it and go back in the house.

And then nothing about it on the news or the police blotter.

Yeah sorry this just reinforces my mistrust of the police. They lie. They cover up.

They forget who they work for.

I understand. A friend of mine was murdered by a cop. Link below.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/Madison … index.html