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racist comments from a photographer
IMHO what is considered racist or offensive in general is a personal thing. The OP thought it was racist or took offense to the comment. Now maybe it's a matter of semantics in this case. Agencies, photographers, clients and everyone in between ask for specific features in models all the time. So here, I don't think it makes this guy racist if he wanted a more or "full asian" looking model. Being black has taught me not everyone who opens their mouths is smart. It just means they know how to speak. I hear things that I find offensive that other blacks do not. The same applies for the three races, ethnic and religious groups too I'd imagine. I find humor in things about "my people" and other groups too. I try to be respectful and sensitive to others boundaries. The few times I have offended people I apologized, explain myself and tried to move on from that point. Race is still an issue in the U.S., and always will be, due to the fact 'we' don't have enough open and honest discussions about it. Jul 25 13 06:36 pm Link Images by MR wrote: By her, obviously. Jul 25 13 06:36 pm Link being from the UK i've never heard the term 'fresh off the boat'. and yes i was shocked when i read that someone referred to you as such; the term implies that you are an immigrant or an asylum seeker etc, as opposed to born here. its a derogatory term. What otherwise does 'FOB' mean? that you've been travelling for long hours? that you don't have many clothes? im sorry if i am being ignorant for having not heard the term, but having never heard it before thats exactly what it sounded like. It may be being sensitive to take offense to racial slurs, if someone had used the term 'fresh out of the cotton fields' to a black person, im pretty sure that would raise some eyebrows. How about 'fresh out of the kitchen' to describe a woman? That said, i wouldnt let it affect a shoot; having worked with a lot of different people of all ages, you can't expect every single person you come across to describe things gracefully; a very good friend of mine in this industry likes to describe arabs as Turbans. Whilst I dislike the terminology, I put it down to our differences as people, which give us a lot more interesting things to talk about when we shoot. If it genuinely make you feel uncomfortable, say something, and if it doesn't stop, move on. It may well be offensive to you but at the end of the day you have to decide whether your dignity or your wallet should suffer more. Jul 25 13 06:38 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. I've only heard the term FOB to describe people of Asian descent. Jul 25 13 06:38 pm Link Call Me Caitlin wrote: It's funny how some Filipinos consider FOB to be racist while others don't. One of my friends is from the Philippines and she calls herself a FOB. She doesn't understand why some are so offended by it. I rarely, if ever, hear the term from anyone other than Filipinos. Jul 25 13 06:38 pm Link Being asian myself, I'd feel somewhat offended by it, but by no means something I would just turn down as a result. Sometimes it's something I'd just blow off. Jul 25 13 06:39 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: To be fair though, she's in the bay area where the Italy-US immigration pipeline is not as strong as to say NYC and too young to see that pipeline flowing. Jul 25 13 06:39 pm Link You gotta love White people telling ethnic minorities what they should and shouldn't find offensive/racist. I just... I can't anymore... you guys are too much. ![]() Jul 25 13 06:40 pm Link Gryph wrote: You're Guatemalan. Jul 25 13 06:40 pm Link Instinct Images wrote: It is dependent upon the person who identifies as being one and having such definitions, but for others that are mixed, it is not a nice thing to say. Jul 25 13 06:40 pm Link ![]() Jul 25 13 06:41 pm Link John Jebbia wrote: Jerkface! I'm gonna spray my Kimchi juices in your eyes when you go to bed. Jul 25 13 06:41 pm Link I am a white photographer who has shot black models almost exclusively. My port is all black women. I don't seem to generate much interest from caucasian models. Maybe they think I'm black. Maybe they have a problem with white guys shooting women of color. Maybe its because my profile is pretty hard nosed in some ways. I don't know and most of the time, I really don't care. I haven't been shooting for a while, but when I get back to it, brown women will do very well, TYVM. Jul 25 13 06:41 pm Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: JESUS Photography wrote: Jul 25 13 06:43 pm Link Vindictive Images wrote: There are history books. Jul 25 13 06:43 pm Link This has become an interesting discussion between real life intended racism and/or real life honest intention that marked as racism. This character has been millions of boys and men around the world drooling over. A Chinese spy Ada Wong in the Resident Evil 4 video game: ![]() Look at the physical features, nothing resembles an average Chinese female. Everything looks and feels like a caucasian female with a chinese name stuck to her. Some took it as racism toward the Asians. But go figure, it was by Capcom, a Japanese company. Then when Hollywood made the Resident Evil movies, I guess they went against Capcom's philosophy. They cast Li as the character: ![]() ![]() What do you know? Many also cried racism as a short and unattractive Asian women being portrayed. Well, I bet neither the game nor the film makers had racism in mind. I think it's the people that read too much about racism. Jul 25 13 06:44 pm Link Gryph wrote: It's not legit unless you ferment the kimchi at home. Jul 25 13 06:44 pm Link Paolo Diavolo wrote: Man, I was gonna get one of those things too. Jul 25 13 06:45 pm Link Call Me Caitlin wrote: I've heard it quite a bit when I'm being ribbed... Jul 25 13 06:45 pm Link Magic Forests wrote: Oh it's been fermenting alright. Just he waits. Jul 25 13 06:46 pm Link Babalon Salome wrote: It's not like that, actually. Jul 25 13 06:46 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: She's expressing her experiences and her experiences do not include those history books. It does not invalidate her current experience of the term. Jul 25 13 06:47 pm Link |