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What Would You Do For "Exposure"
Got a call from a Dallas photographer giving me random advice about how to "make a splash with modeling in Dallas". Out of all this advice, he's telling to me do things I don't want to do, nor interest in ever doing. One being growing a racing stripe so he knows I'm fully nude from 20 feet away (his words). So in order to make a "splash" he has all these ideas on what I SHOULD do because I'm "a woman of color" and all the others down there are ugly (his words again). This includes doing a bunch of trade shoots with photographers that will NOT benefit my port, because they shoot for local newspapers and can get me tear sheets. He said tear sheets are all that matters and then ridiculed me for not having any in Dallas. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, but how far will you go for exposure that may or may not lead to paying shoots in the future. Feb 02 14 03:10 pm Link Were you being paid to listen that non-sense? Or you listen it all for free?  Feb 02 14 03:19 pm Link LightFeatherRetouch wrote: I was pissed off for free sadly. Feb 02 14 03:28 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: 4.99$ a minute next time! Feb 02 14 03:31 pm Link LightFeatherRetouch wrote: I'll remember. He's the 5th advice-giver in a week that managed to either piss me off or make me hang up on them Feb 02 14 03:35 pm Link 5 in a week? Sounds like a Monday to Friday job...  Feb 02 14 03:40 pm Link Lord. Yeah I've had a few interesting pieces of unsolicited advice thrown my way. However I do appreciate when I ask people advice and they give me useful feedback, because they usually have an idea of what I want to do with my life. Feb 02 14 03:45 pm Link That dude sounds like an asshat. Feb 02 14 03:45 pm Link But is it really "exposure" if you're exposed to nothing? Some people can talk crap until the cows come home, but it's still only talking crap until the cows come home. Feb 02 14 04:13 pm Link Gee, I guess I'm an Asshat. I Wasted 25 minutes, trying to give advice to a person with Anger Management Issues. I offered to give her a personal introduction to Leroy Roper. (Google him) Artist in Dallas for over 20 years, 4 or 5 HBO specials. His models get National Exposure. (but that's not worth nothing, in her opinion) I offered to hook her up with a couple Burlesque shows. Done some shoots with those girls, know a few. Cheesy, BUT IT PAYS. I offered to hook her up with Dallas Observer article. Published there about 95 times or more. But she says that's worth Nada. This all started over her Craigs ad, looking for a Booking Agent, in Dallas. You won't find a booking agent in Dallas, worth a crap, dredging Craigs. But you will find some scum. So I did call her, and I did advise her to grow a little hair. Look at my port, I am the guy who found :Emily Joe," and advised her to keep the hair. Worked out okay for her. Lord, I bit my tongue, Lord, I tried to be nice, Lord I TRIED TO GIVE SOME ADVICE. I DON'T WANT TO THIS, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT! Fine, stay in Arkansas. I hung up, on... All you guys are the same, you just want me to... Girl has Issues. Feb 02 14 04:15 pm Link being a photographer, I get offers of "exposure" all the time. I sort the crap from the cream by asking them to quantify exactly what that exposure is. Often they can't. Feb 02 14 04:16 pm Link Well I was in a bad mood. So maybe it's my fault Feb 02 14 04:19 pm Link Darren Brade wrote: Gew, if I offerd you a plane ticket to Dallas, and major exposure, you'd trash me on MM Too? Feb 02 14 04:21 pm Link John Edward wrote: And the White Knights come out Feb 02 14 04:24 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: Def Is Feb 02 14 04:29 pm Link John Edward wrote: did you really just call me a bitch? Feb 02 14 04:31 pm Link It's not advice that is the problem. Unsolicited advice can come across as hateful, or at least condescending. I don't know if the advice was requested, or not, but that's really where the issue is here. Feb 02 14 04:32 pm Link John Edward wrote: I know that you think you are coming off good here... FAIL Feb 02 14 04:33 pm Link Not everything on MM is a scam some stuff is real kIds. Ask John Fisher, or a half dozen other guys on here, if I am BS. Or call, well, why bother? I tried to give Good Advice to a wanna be. She was so stupid she whined about me here. Ken Marcus knows who I am, so do lots of other guys. My phone number is* 972-896-0650. Call me, lets see who's Creepy. Or who is another MM wannabe. Feb 02 14 04:38 pm Link Always interesting to hear both sides of a he-said, she-said argument. Airing dirty laundry in public... This aught to be good. Many years in consulting have taught me never to give advice for free. Getting told something you don't want to hear for free makes you angry. Paying for advice you don't want to hear makes you think. How many times have you seen a person you know get the same piece of advice from every single one of their friends, only to ignore it until they hear it from their therapist? Feb 02 14 04:39 pm Link call. Operators are waiting. Feb 02 14 04:40 pm Link Korn? You first... Feb 02 14 04:41 pm Link Your advice may have been sound advice in theory, but she obviously was not interested. Nobody would have guessed which Dallas photographer it was until you came in here. Feb 02 14 04:41 pm Link John Edward wrote: no need to get butthurt and call her names because she didn't like your advice. Feb 02 14 04:42 pm Link This is far more entertaining than the big game. Feb 02 14 04:42 pm Link Good Egg Productions wrote: Right?! Feb 02 14 04:43 pm Link Koryn wrote: Good point! Feb 02 14 04:46 pm Link No phone calls, only cowards, hiding... 972 896 0650 operators are waiting Feb 02 14 04:46 pm Link I find if people don't ask for advice then they are not open to it, it's not my place to offer. However polite goes a long way as well... Feb 02 14 04:48 pm Link Um why are you waiting for people to call you? Feb 02 14 04:48 pm Link a raw muse wrote: Troll bait. That's all this guy is. Feb 02 14 04:50 pm Link John Edward wrote: I already answered you in a rational way. Feb 02 14 04:50 pm Link a raw muse wrote: Pretty much. Feb 02 14 04:50 pm Link  Moderator Warning!John Edward wrote: No idea, but it's the kind of comment that could earn you a spell in the brig. Feb 02 14 04:51 pm Link Someone CLEARLY has anger issues. Feb 02 14 04:51 pm Link John Edward wrote: Seems to me, unless you're a "booking agent in Dallas", you really shouldn't have contacted her to "sell" whatever else you had to offer, that you felt she needed. Feb 02 14 04:51 pm Link Oh hell, its turning into Model Mayhem up in this bitch! Feb 02 14 04:54 pm Link Well The innocent maiden said I.... and everybody jumped on that. Because, the photographer is always wrong. LOL: Feb 02 14 04:55 pm Link Greatest. Thread. Ever!  Feb 02 14 04:56 pm Link SPRINGHEEL wrote: Pretty Much Feb 02 14 04:57 pm Link |
