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so I have been asked a lot lately. . .
I have been asked a lot lately if I would be willing/interested in teaching some of the tricks of the trade I know to the MUAs and people I have been working with. None of the more elaborate things I know how to do or anything realy involved but something more like 'light hair', products that should be in every light hair kit, things I never leave home without, how to keep a flat iron from ironing a funky line in hair how to make it curl... you know simple stuff.  Ok simple for me not so simple for others obviously, more to the point say people have asked me and I'm curious how something like this could be done, say perhaps a demonstration day or something so you guys see how it's done and get to try it out afterwards. Any suggestions or recommendations or any more people who would like to know some of this stuff who are willing to wanting to get together? I know this likely should have wound up in events, which it will if it does happen but since it's in the inquiry stage I want opinions on it more than attendees  Mar 31 08 09:48 pm Link If we lived closer, I would totally have already asked you for lessons.  Don't know how it would be done exactly (logistically speaking) but I imagine something like a Powder Group seminar would be awesome. (Demonstration by instructor then time to practice on models or each other while getting feedback from the instructor.) I don't know what the legal issues might be either, as hair stuff seems to be more tightly regulated than makeup application. Mar 31 08 10:25 pm Link Yeah I was thinking something along those legal type lines myself, like if I teach you something and you screw it up do I become liable? I honestly wouldn't get into anything that couldn't be washed away so the liabilty factor would be minimal. I have no intentions on teaching an ISO perm course or a fusions course but just something simple you guys could do if you get into a bind without a hairstylist present. I have 0 intentions of teaching bridal stuff so don't ask and no I won't teach you guys how to finger wave, that will cost you lol but after fixing so many of these 1/2 assed attempts of MUA's trying to make a pony tail with bobby pins and elastics and trying to hide it or the pins with little success I gave them a crash course in how to do it right and showed them why it's done this way and not that way and they all seemed to nail it rather quickly, turns out they got a 3 week crash course in school where months of hairstyling was thrown at them and they were sent off to practice  So you think it's possible for something like that to happen? And with the proper motivation I could be persuaded to come teach you something but there will be payment involved and oh yes we will be going to Bloomingdale's when I come down oh yes we will But then, it was brought up to me do I do this from the kindness of my heart or should I charge a door fee like at a keg party lol? Mar 31 08 10:35 pm Link If I was closer I would sign up in seconds! I would love to know more about light hair! And who better than from you? Mar 31 08 11:28 pm Link Girl, I'd so fly out an tag-team you on that! Mar 31 08 11:30 pm Link I actually offered another stylist money- like a day rate for her to teach me what she knew for light hair. So I'd jump on the chance! lol Mar 31 08 11:40 pm Link I'd come! Apr 01 08 12:13 am Link Omg you guys make me blush Apr 01 08 07:03 am Link Definitely charge. Don't be silly girl. You don't have to charge an arm and a leg but a finger or two would do. You need to cover your own expenses as well as your time and effort. For me, the reason I never took a hairstyling course, say at MUD or wherever, is a combination of not having the time to invest in a 3 week course nor having the money to throw at it. Oh, and laziness is definitely a factor as well. For me, I think what would have the most appeal is a short course (one full day, or maybe a full weekend) with small groups, models to work on, and lots of one-on-one attention from the instructor. Things I would want to learn: 1) how to do a proper blow-out (mine always frizz up) 2) using a straigtening iron, evaluating temp. as well as hair texture 3) using a curling iron... how to achieve this type of curl, that type of curl, and if you just want body. 4) using a roller set. I was shown how to do a roller set once by a mua I assisted and because I can't seem to use a curling iron without crimping the hair, I always resort to this... however I only know one way to use it. 5) Ponytails and easy up-styles, hiding pins and elastics 6) Backcombing! How to do it, when to do it, and how to get it out at the end of the day. 7) Overview of products. Not necessarily brands, but types of products (this is shine spray and it's used for...shine. Don't use it in this situation or the results will suck) Here's how you use dry shampoo. This brush will smooth the hair, this comb is for detangling...etc. Apr 01 08 08:45 am Link I would be there with bells on if you were in DC. Maybe do a video of the class if you do it and let us buy it.. That way the money is still coming in after the class.. Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money!! - Sorry for the ancient "In Livin Color" replay... I'm sooo bored at work today I could cry and things like this just pour out of my mouth, I can't control it.. :-(( Apr 01 08 02:34 pm Link Yeah Cyn that's a good idea, I can tell you there's 99 ways to dry hair and for me based on textures it's easier to use one brush type for one and one for another etc. and remind me and I'll show you how to not crimp hair (and how to fix it if you do) with a curling iron I can show you those rollers too since alot of times I know it is easier to achieve that look and set it for you then work on a model's make up and then take it down and work it afterwards. As far as products go I can tell you too 95% of the time what works and what won't and the 100% of the time way to tell what you want to try. Dry shampoo is pretty easy too but I'm having a bit of a time locating some here... it's like they never heard of such a thing in Canada and it's diconcerting. As far as taping it goes, that's a good idea too and I wonder if I could get someone to do that for us. Maybe what I'll do is try for a weekend in May where I can come down to NYC and we can have a 2 day workshop or something down there as well. Apr 01 08 07:07 pm Link Cynthia ORourke wrote: So besides Cyn's requests, is there anything else you guys would like to see in a workshop? Apr 01 08 07:47 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: Myself personally...I'd prefer a list of items/products Apr 01 08 08:09 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: I'd like to know how to do hair for fashion and beauty photoshoots. Apr 01 08 08:12 pm Link Keshia Singleton wrote: Lol you want me to teach you to do my job you know it's gonna be Mo' Money Apr 01 08 08:18 pm Link Bellafacemagic wrote: I like the idea of bring your own model, that way everyone is more comfy with their 'client' for the day and you guys get to see a large variety of how things work in different people's hair Apr 01 08 08:22 pm Link Anything that saves money always makes me smile! Apr 01 08 08:31 pm Link Retail... ha ha ha ha. Who pays retail? I think a list of "what every makeup artist should have in their hair kit" would be awesome. I have a pretty decent hair kit I purchased in a fit of "I'm going to teach myself hair", the problem is I don't know how to use half of it effectively. It would be much more useful to me to learn how to use what I got. Apr 01 08 08:34 pm Link Bellafacemagic wrote: Lol me too Apr 01 08 08:35 pm Link Cynthia ORourke wrote: Yeah that's what I'm thinking, since it seems a lot of you guys have stuff already and you'd realy just like to learn to use it properly/better/more efficent etc. I'm seeing this taking on a bit of a different twist and tailoring it to the smaller group's use of what they have already rather than a here's what so and so said you should have. Apr 01 08 08:41 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: It was worth a try. I figured I'd shoot for the moon..lol Apr 01 08 08:53 pm Link Keshia Singleton wrote: Keshia if I were to come down to NYC would it be possible for you to come up there from D.C.? Could make a workshop for you and Cyn both if it timed out right. Apr 01 08 08:57 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: I really think I would.. Cyn can I bunk with you???...lol I really need to learn.. Too many times I'm on a photoshoot the photog looks at me and says "OK, change her hair" I'm like homie what do you want me to do??.. :-D But I take the spray and comb and try to mimic something I saw in a magazine and hope works Apr 01 08 09:03 pm Link I would attend this. Apr 01 08 09:03 pm Link I have: 1 hot roller set (Conair, all the same size.. 1" maybe?) 1 Flat iron 2 curling irons (regular and skinny) Hairdryer with diffuser and the other attachement that directs the air elastics and bobby pins galore Ceramic barrel natural bristle round brush Plastic paddle brush Various combs of all shapes and sizes Hairspray Molding mud silicone lotion wax/pomade (not sure which) dry shampoo root volumizer gel um... I might have a couple more products too. I know how to use: The hairdryer for drying latex when making zombies Apr 01 08 09:06 pm Link Keshia Singleton wrote: Dudes... we can totally have the seminar in my living room. Pull out couch is first come, first serve. Apr 01 08 09:07 pm Link I would too if it were in Southern California! Apr 01 08 09:09 pm Link Sian Melton wrote: Hey Sian ^^ Good to see you! Apr 01 08 09:17 pm Link I really don't have much of a light hair kit. I'm somewhat clueless but its my next goal of something to learn that I find to be a necessity Apr 01 08 09:20 pm Link Cynthia ORourke wrote: LMFAO Spoken like a true MUA... "what are you doing with my latex setting tool!?!? OMFG get that away from your hair you idiot that's an import SFX tool!!" Apr 01 08 09:21 pm Link Bellafacemagic wrote: Well, if we gave you a list of some need to have things could/would you grab a friend who's hair you wanna do and make it to NYC to learn? lol Apr 01 08 09:23 pm Link Cynthia ORourke wrote: Pull out couch! Called it! You lose! Apr 01 08 09:24 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: Most definitely! I work in the city so its no problem at all!! Apr 01 08 09:56 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: My "light hair kit", and I use the term loosely, consists of bobby pins, hair spray, a not so good flat iron, blow dryer and anti-frizz spray. Oh, and a couple of combs/brushes. It needs help. And then I'd need to know what to do with it all. I took a hair class a very long time ago, but nothing really stuck. I would just like a brush up on doing curls, straightening, pony tails, etc. Also using hot rollers. The last time I used them, the curls looked fab but they were crunchy to the touch. Oi. Haha. Apr 01 08 10:01 pm Link Crunchy from a hot roller? Perhaps you should teach me that trick Sian do you plan to go to the ABA this weekend? It's at the MTCC sun. & mon. If you're gonna be downtown we could maybe hook up and work something out. I'm booked sat. night already on a shoot but I took sun. & mon. off for the "Disneyland of hairshows" as I was told so I am gonna be just kinda bumming about down the street from my house lol Ok don't tell on me for goofing about my reg. clients think I am going to be off learning the next big things to make them even more beautiful or some such nonsense. Apr 01 08 10:06 pm Link Angel Graves wrote: I wasn't planning on it. I'm in Oakville on Saturday and am not sure when I'll be back. Is it expensive for a ticket? Maybe I'll make that my Sunday.... Apr 01 08 10:36 pm Link Honestly I forget the prices so I'll have to get back at you on that. If you're working and since this not realy your gig I would say work, make the money and skip this show. Anything cool I can pick up for you or tell you about anyway plus, I'll be all GWC while I'm there like a tourist anyway so I'll get pics Once I get the proper ticket prices tho (it's sitting at my station) I'll drop you a PM tomorrow sometime and pop my number in too that way you can just phone me if there's something you think you'd like me to pick up for you while I'm there. Gonna keep an eye out for good deals at the cash and carry anyway for other people I know who can't quite attend. It seems to me ticket prices are silly expensive for non industry types... made little sense but I think it detours the would-be eBay seller from getting the good deals on pro products/tools if they have to lay down a ridiculous ticket price just to walk in the door. Apr 01 08 10:55 pm Link So when's the workshop gonna be? I'm down Apr 01 08 11:00 pm Link Tabitha Hughes wrote: I think what I might do is since Cyn and those girls all pretty much want the same thing, I might go down and do one for them first. See what we can work out about it and work it into everyone''s schedules and since it's a smaller group and they all 3 want the same things I could cook that workshop up fast. Well that and I am going to track Chris Milone down and buy his new union butt a coffee before I have to get me some people so they can call his people to see if 6 months from now I could get a coffee with him! That way when he's all more famous and winning like an Emmy or something he can say in his acceptance speech "and I just want to thank Angel and Cynthia for hasseling me on model mayhem and making me feel like a stalked man... I Apr 02 08 07:20 am Link I'm so excited!!!! You are the greatest!!!Apr 02 08 08:57 am Link |
