Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
I have seen models who I emailed, and say there not shooting, but when you see them on someone elses page they like lets shoot agains sometime. Then you'll email them, they want to shot you a line of shit, as if they think there smart enough to know they haven't bullshitted anyone, knowing there just hurting themselves. Then they are only doing paid assignments but dont have much experience, maybe a in 1 or 2 publications and say I want to be paid. There are many more models who are much more experienced then you who deserve to be paid!!
Model
Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56038
Yelm, Washington, US
Bitter much? So ignore the model who's giving you a line of crap, and find one of the better more experienced models and pay them. Somethings are only learned the hard way.
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
Elizabeth Claret wrote:
Bitter much? So ignore the model who's giving you a line of crap, and find one of the better more experienced models and pay them. Somethings are only learned the hard way. Oh im gonna find someone worth paying. I know theres models doing that same line of shit, ya'll need to get your shit together. Another thing I hate, Im only doing paid assignments, but when you ask them for references and ask if the last 4 photographers payed them they gonna clam up and say I only do paid assignments, who you think you fucking fooling , because my shit aint up to par your going pull some bull shit on me, you better know better!! They'll work for the good dude for free but shoot you shit!
Girls better learn how to get your shit together!!!!
Model
LaLa4
Posts: 16292
Oshkosh, Wisconsin, US
E One wrote:
Oh im gonna find someone worth paying. I know theres models doing that same line of shit, ya'll need to get your shit together. Another thing I hate, Im only doing paid assignments, but when you ask them for references and ask if the last 4 photographers payed them they gonna clam up and say I only do paid assignments, who you think you fucking fooling , because my shit aint up to par your going pull some bull shit on me, you better know better!! They'll work for the good dude for free but shoot you shit!
Girls better learn how to get your shit together!!!! Yes. We shoot with the good dude for free. The ones who aren't up to par, we charge.
Get the hint yet?
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
LaLa wrote:
Yes. We shoot with the good dude for free. The ones who aren't up to par, we charge.
Get the hint yet? Oh I get the hint, bullshit, I'm so allergic to it, so why do models insist on bullshitting instead of being straight up!! yall insecure bout some shit???
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Ok, one, calm the fuck down. You pull that kind of attitude when you contact models and there's no way you'll find one who wants to shoot with you, no matter how much money you're waving at them. Two, "GWC" isn't a good term, it's a bad one. That could be the reason you're having trouble finding models to work with you. Have the moderators change your title to "Photographer". Three, models have every right to turn down work (TF* or paid) from whomever they wish. As do photographers, and MUAs, and everyone else here on the site. It's their right. You have three :refraining from unsolicited critique: images up in your profile (which is, by the way, less than the required amount of 4). That's likely not enough evidence that a trade would be worthwhile for a model. Four, checking references is a great idea, but no one is required to tell you if a job was paid or what the job paid. That's private information discussed between the negotiating parties only. I've never shared that info with another model, photographer or MUA, and I never will. And five... this thread will likely not end well.
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
E One wrote:
Oh I get the hint, bullshit, I'm so allergic to it, so why do models insist on bullshitting instead of being straight up!! yall insecure bout some shit??? You want straight up? Take your shit to the critique forum. Post a thread there. I'm sure models would give you their honest, no bullshit, opinions there.
I know I would.
Model
LaLa4
Posts: 16292
Oshkosh, Wisconsin, US
E One wrote:
Oh I get the hint, bullshit, I'm so allergic to it, so why do models insist on bullshitting instead of being straight up!! yall insecure bout some shit??? Nope. Maybe someone was trying to be polite.
Model
LaLa4
Posts: 16292
Oshkosh, Wisconsin, US
Rachel Jay wrote:
You want straight up? Take your shit to the critique forum. Post a thread there. I'm sure models would give you their honest, no bullshit, opinions there.
I know I would. QFT
I'll give you my opinion too.
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
Rachel Jay wrote:
Four, checking references is a great idea, but no one is required to tell you if a job was paid or what the job paid. That's private information discussed between the negotiating parties only. I've never shared that info with another model, photographer or MUA, and I never will.
And five... this thread will likely not end well. there gonna try to shoot me some shit, I dont like bull shit.
Photographer
K E E L I N G
Posts: 39894
Peoria, Illinois, US
No way this is real.....I smell a rat. Somebody's yanking our chain. ![https://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc281/chanelrene/model%20mayhem/ckbadge001.jpg]()
Photographer
J Sharp
Posts: 3437
Sacramento, California, US
Chris Keeling wrote:
No way this is real.....I smell a rat. Somebody's yanking our chain.
![https://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc281/chanelrene/model%20mayhem/ckbadge001.jpg]() +1
This is too ridiculous to be real.
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
E One wrote:
Oh I get the hint, bullshit, I'm so allergic to it, so why do models insist on bullshitting instead of being straight up!! yall insecure bout some shit??? Any appropriate comment would be a bannable offense for feeding the troll. Do you really want models to reply...
"I'm sorry I only shoot with talented photographers that will contribute positively to my portfolio. For images that would actually hurt my portfolio I charge enough to either discourage the shoot or make it financially viable enough to accept so that I don't care the photos disappear into oblivion once I'm paid."
It's called tact and professionalism...something you really could...(never mind, there's that fine line again).
Model
LaLa4
Posts: 16292
Oshkosh, Wisconsin, US
E One wrote:
there gonna try to shoot me some shit, I dont like bull shit. Post a thread in the critique section. I promise you, I won't give you any bullshit.
Photographer
Fetishot
Posts: 277
London, England, United Kingdom
Is this the bad 70's tv show style thread....seriously...fucking 'Bull jive'.. come one!
You should perhaps change your name to Captain Troll.
Model
JoJo
Posts: 26560
Clearwater, Florida, US
E One wrote:
I have seen models who I emailed, and say there not shooting, but when you see them on someone elses page they like lets shoot agains sometime. Then you'll email them, they want to shot you a line of shit, as if they think there smart enough to know they haven't bullshitted anyone, knowing there just hurting themselves. Then they are only doing paid assignments but dont have much experience, maybe a in 1 or 2 publications and say I want to be paid. There are many more models who are much more experienced then you who deserve to be paid!! Bluntly, it costs something to get onto the bottom rung of the ladder.
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
LaLa wrote:
Post a thread in the critique section. I promise you, I won't give you any bullshit. Me neither.
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
Paul Begley Photography wrote:
Is this the bad 70's tv show style thread....seriously...fucking 'Bull jive'.. come one!
You should perhaps change your name to Captain Troll. I think she just got back from watching Tropic Thunder.
Photographer
J Sharp
Posts: 3437
Sacramento, California, US
If you are truly interested in getting a more positive response from models you should try soliciting a critique in the critique forum.
Photographer
F Stop Photography
Posts: 1711
Boynton Beach, Florida, US
E One wrote:
Oh im gonna find someone worth paying. I know theres models doing that same line of shit, ya'll need to get your shit together. Another thing I hate, Im only doing paid assignments, but when you ask them for references and ask if the last 4 photographers payed them they gonna clam up and say I only do paid assignments, who you think you fucking fooling , because my shit aint up to par your going pull some bull shit on me, you better know better!! They'll work for the good dude for free but shoot you shit!
Girls better learn how to get your shit together!!!! My friend, you haven't been here too long so I'll try to give you a bit of the benefit of the doubt. I am NOT critiqueing your portfolio, but who the heck are you to be huffing and puffing like this with 3 images in your port, little verbiage in your descriptive section, and Tyler as your one and only friend?
You think this post is gonna get them to line up to work with you, paid OR unpaid?
If so, I wish you the best of luck!
Photographer
Vamp Boudoir
Posts: 11446
Florence, South Carolina, US
Chris Keeling wrote:
No way this is real.....I smell a rat. Somebody's yanking our chain.
![https://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc281/chanelrene/model%20mayhem/ckbadge001.jpg]() nawww.. 'dis be fo real man! 
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
F Stop Photography wrote:
My friend, you haven't been here too long so I'll try to give you a bit of the benefit of the doubt. I am NOT critiqueing your portfolio, but who the heck are you to be huffing and puffing like this with 3 images in your port, little verbiage in your descriptive section, and Tyler as your one and only friend?
You think this post is gonna get them to line up to work with you, paid OR unpaid?
If so, I wish you the best of luck! im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin??
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
This thread is Dy No Mite!
Said with my best Jimmie Walker impression.
Photographer
F Stop Photography
Posts: 1711
Boynton Beach, Florida, US
E One wrote:
im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin?? No more so than you.... care to take this into the critique section where you can really get some answers? Hmmm?
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
E One wrote:
im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin?? It could be the quality of model you're contacting. Anyone can SAY they're a professional. Being a professional is more about how you conduct yourself than about how much experience you have, how much you get paid, or how often you shoot.
Or, it could be... something else.
Photographer
J Sharp
Posts: 3437
Sacramento, California, US
E One wrote:
im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin?? What would you like to hear from a model who is not interested in shooting with you?
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
E One wrote:
im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin?? Maybe they're simply protecting your fragile and dainty ego?
Photographer
Fetishot
Posts: 277
London, England, United Kingdom
Man dat be some jive talkin muddafukka.....git heea on ma lap bitch an ama gunna get me some sawcy piktchas...ana don ask me fo no muny aw ama gunna slap ya upside da head...yeahbitchdatsright.
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Michael Pandolfo wrote:
Maybe they're simply protecting your fragile and dainty ego? 
Photographer
40Three Studios
Posts: 772
Washington, Arkansas, US
Rachel Jay wrote:
Or, it could be... something else. Word.
Photographer
Vamp Boudoir
Posts: 11446
Florence, South Carolina, US
J Sharp Photography wrote:
If you are truly interested in getting a more positive response from models you should try soliciting a critique in the critique forum. Oh please do.....I need some entertainment
Photographer
DDRJR Productions
Posts: 476
Miami Beach, Florida, US
F Stop Photography wrote:
My friend, you haven't been here too long so I'll try to give you a bit of the benefit of the doubt. I am NOT critiqueing your portfolio, but who the heck are you to be huffing and puffing like this with 3 images in your port, little verbiage in your descriptive section, and Tyler as your one and only friend?
You think this post is gonna get them to line up to work with you, paid OR unpaid?
If so, I wish you the best of luck! F stop -dude you got hotties in your port, ugh!! I use to get pissed off when I first started, because I had nothing to offer now its like the Next bus, ...............NEXT................................ I'll find a model just as good if not a better model wanting to shoot the ideas I have, it's numbers game!
Model
Savvy O
Posts: 1243
New York, New York, US
E One wrote:
im just trying to understand why models who say they are professional are bullshittin?? Because they don't want to work with you!!!!!!
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
J Sharp Photography wrote:
What would you like to hear from a model who is not interested in shooting with you? be freakin honest, dont bullshit, dont copout ant shit, be straight up!
Photographer
E One
Posts: 31
Savvy O wrote:
Because they don't want to work with you!!!!!! Because they bull shit and think their the shit!! Try again
!
Photographer
F Stop Photography
Posts: 1711
Boynton Beach, Florida, US
ahhhhhhhh what the heck! DI NOOO MITE! ![https://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq264/fstopphotography/goodtimes6.jpg]()
Photographer
40Three Studios
Posts: 772
Washington, Arkansas, US
E One wrote:
Because they bull shit and think their the shit!! Try again
! Perhaps they're thinking the EXACT same things about you.
*runs to the Critique forum...nope, nothing from the OP*
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
E One wrote:
be freakin honest, dont bullshit, dont copout ant shit, be straight up! So you'd rather hear:
"Sorry, your work blows and your attitude sucks. I wouldn't work with you if you paid me $1000 an hour."
Than:
"Thanks for the interest, but I'm not looking to shoot the style you have in your portfolio right now."
Photographer
Vamp Boudoir
Posts: 11446
Florence, South Carolina, US
E One wrote:
be freakin honest, dont bullshit, dont copout ant shit, be straight up! put it in the critique forum if ya got the guts
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