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Should Figure Models Wear A Robe When Not Posing?
Some of the models I work with are just getting started posing for art classes where the students sketch them with charcoal on paper. Some of the models tell me they always bring a robe just in case the instructor has a rule that they must wear something while the instructor is lecturing. Some models just slip on some regular clothes when they are not posing. I would like to hear from some models who pose nude for art classes, so I can pass on those little tips that make a figure model come accross as a serious professional. Do you think a professional attitude helps you get more gigs or better pay? Jun 30 09 10:41 am Link Honestly I don't care either way... it is nice when the model does not get dressed in between, since I often get some candid and interesting shots I would not have otherwise gotten... When she does put a robe on or clothes, it is good to, since I don't become to acclumated (spelling) to seeing her nude... Jun 30 09 10:46 am Link Yes to a robe, cheapens the subject if there is no unwrapping at presentation _____________________________ you do too much, you're not Jun 30 09 10:46 am Link A robe is appropriate between sittings. Jun 30 09 10:47 am Link I always have a robe around. Getting models to use it is quite another thing. They're usually too busy playing in the prop box. Jun 30 09 10:49 am Link Mistur Photography wrote: I have to agree but some talent you just can't keep clothed EVER!!!!! Jun 30 09 10:50 am Link whatever makes them feel comfortable Jun 30 09 10:50 am Link Over the years I have done a few hundred figure-posing gigs. So here is my 2 cents, yes during breaks, no in between poses, unless there is a long pause for lecturing. Jun 30 09 10:54 am Link Some people who shoot or draw nudes aren't entirely comfortable with casual nudity. It's a nice courtesy to them to put on a robe (or other garment). It's also a good way of signaling, "Yes, this is a break." I have a travel robe. It's super comfy, and it all tucks away into a little bag. Jun 30 09 10:54 am Link JC Digital Photography wrote: Most of the figure models I know, start out posing nude for art classes at colleges, universities, and community centers. The art instructors tend to be fairly conservative (maybe for survival purposes). The art instructors that I know, seem to be very concerned about the professional image they present to their students. Jun 30 09 10:57 am Link We provide robes for the models. As soon as they enter the dressing room, they are handed a robe and told to undress completely so there will be no lines from clothing on their bodies. The robes keep them warm and comfortable. Only a few have forsaken the robes and chose to sit naked while the MUA does her work. KM Jun 30 09 10:58 am Link Whatever the people involved prefer. When I first started shooting nudes, my wife was a bit uncomfortable with the model just sitting around naked but now it's a matter of whether or not the room is warm enough. BTW the same applies to whether or not the changing room/space should be used when going to or from nude shots. Jun 30 09 10:59 am Link Hmmm none of the models I've worked with put anything on between sets unless they were cold. A couple didn't even dress when we hiked between sites in the mountains. Shows they're supremely comfortable, plus a lot of what I shoot is "un-posed" so it's silly to put anything on when there's a break because sometimes the best natural shots occur inbetween. I'll be moving things about and stop what I'm doing to do an impromptu set on the fly. For example, Maria J was actually getting ready to catch the airport van saturday afternoon when I did this as part of another impromptu set: 18+ http://www.lebeckerotica.com/mariaj2/im … 2709_m.jpg Naked Hiking: 18+ http://www.lebeckerotica.com/candace1/i … ndace1.jpg Jun 30 09 11:01 am Link I always offer but most of the models I work with are very comfortable with casual nudity Jun 30 09 11:02 am Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: can i work for you? Jun 30 09 11:02 am Link Stann Hoyle wrote: From experience I've found that when you are posing for art classes at art schools/spaces to have a robe or an easy slip on dress to put on inbetween poses eg breaks or lectures. Jun 30 09 11:05 am Link I always tell models to bring a robe. I don't have one to provide. Most models forget the robe after the first lighting change. The rest never use one in the first place. Jun 30 09 11:20 am Link Stann Hoyle wrote: yes they should, but not at my shoot:) Jun 30 09 11:21 am Link Janice Marie Foote wrote: Your response seems to fit in with what the local (Chicago, IL) models are telling me. Your attitude agrees with what the art instructors seem to want. The models I work with usually bring a chaperone when they first work a new gig for a private artist. Do you agree with this proceedure? Jun 30 09 11:22 am Link John Milton Photography wrote: I keep a supply of robes just in case the models want one. I agree that on private shoots, many of the models don't care whether they wear a robe or not. The art instructors however, who teach life drawing classes in colleges, universities, and community centers seem to have special issues about their professional image. Jun 30 09 11:35 am Link Art classes it makes sense. For a private gig, whatever the model wants to do. Many of us do not allow escorts for adult models regardless of nudity. Jun 30 09 11:41 am Link Robe robe. Who needs a robe? I have a kimono and a slip dress. Unless I'm cold, I don't feel any need for a robe. Naked is good, and just as appropriate given the setting. Jun 30 09 11:42 am Link I was at a studio party for a model once where one of the models attending just stripped. She was stone cold sober. She walked around 15-20 people, inside and out for about an hour then asked "Who's ready to shoot". Me and one other photographer grabbed our cameras. I thought it was great that she was so comfortable .... I guess when you've been see naked by millions, 15-20 ain't nothing. Jun 30 09 11:45 am Link Janice Marie Foote wrote: Stann Hoyle wrote: I've sat for many private artists, and from the get go never had a chaperone, Jun 30 09 11:46 am Link Lumigraphics wrote: I always tell models they are welcome to bring a chaperone; however I warn them that they may not feel comfortable expressing their creativity if their chaperone happens to be a boyfriend, husband, or father. Jun 30 09 11:51 am Link Raelyn Monstrosity wrote: Personally, I think a wrap-dress or a pair of shorts and a simple blouse are just as good as a robe, however some art instructors tell me they prefer models to bring a robe. Jun 30 09 11:59 am Link Rebel Photo wrote: This has also happend to me when I do workshops at my place; that's why I don't allow anyone under 18 at my workshops. Jun 30 09 12:02 pm Link I like wearing a robe when there's no modeling needed for 5 mins+, as it keeps me nice and warm! ^_^ Jun 30 09 12:02 pm Link BeautyIsACurse wrote: +1 I always keep a robe handy for models in my studio. Jun 30 09 12:04 pm Link JC Digital Photography wrote: You take nude pictures of models when they aren't expecting it? Jun 30 09 12:06 pm Link For art classes/groups, it's absolutely a must. The dynamic is very different. Jun 30 09 12:06 pm Link Poses wrote: I agree with this. Jun 30 09 12:10 pm Link Duane Allen wrote: Agreed, I have had a couple that just said "I'm fine" when offered the chance to get a robe. I think some are just exhibitionists to that point. Jun 30 09 12:11 pm Link What should we consider appropriate? I have known both sides of this argument. I have seen people pose and have no problems remaining unclosed between shoots. I have seen people shoot and immediately get dressed before shots. Shouldn't we be more concerned with the comfort level of the subject? Mutual respect is the bottom line when posing and photographing/drawing. Whatever makes this subject/model feel most comfortable is fine with me. After the shoot I have even had models sit and have lunch with me and finally get dressed when it's time to leave. Jun 30 09 12:12 pm Link Stann Hoyle wrote: And to add to a model being photographed nude in an art space/class they're posing at, artists should never take models photo without permission. I have been asked and I let them, but I have nudies on the net already so there's no difference for me! Jun 30 09 12:15 pm Link Janice Marie Foote wrote: Janice Marie Foote wrote: I've sat for many private artists, and from the get go never had a chaperone, I appreciate your free spirit; however many of the models I work with, tell me they feel more comfortable if they have a chaperone the first time they work with a new client. When I chaperone models, I usually work out some sort of signal they can give me if they feel totally comfortable about me leaving while they pose. Jun 30 09 12:15 pm Link Caperucita Roja wrote: Sometimes I forget that I am standing up and wearing clothes, while the model is reclining with nothing to keep her warm. If I see shivers or goose bumps or if the model says she is cold, I turn the heat up; I also keep a small electric heater handy that I can put close to the model. I'm learning to listen to the cues the models give me. Jun 30 09 12:24 pm Link in a class or workshop environment, it's common for models to wear robes. when a model is not posing, there's no need for him or her to be nude. so in that situation, the model's nudity would be inappropriate and unnecessary. it's not really appropriate for a model to put on street clothes between poses, or during breaks. it's understood that the robe is the appropriate attire for a nude model, and it would be inappropriate for a model to put on a dress or jeans and a t-shirt between poses. it's normal for a nude model to begin a pose by walking onto the riser and removing her robe. it would be inappropriate for a model to walk up to the riser wearing a skirt and tank top, and remove them there. acting like a professional definitely helps. i've worked with models who brought their own robes, sheets, pillows, music, heater, and snacks. that kind of preparedness definitely makes a good impression on instructors. Jun 30 09 12:30 pm Link For classes, I could understand the want/need for a robe. I personally wouldnt care but if the students/instructor preferred it then I would adhere to that. Any other time? I hang out naked. Jun 30 09 12:32 pm Link Mountain Image wrote: That's exactly the point. If a model doesn't wear a robe, she's nude for no particular reason. People will start to wonder why that is, and some will even guess it's a sexual thing. It's best to avoid that kind of thing. Jun 30 09 12:33 pm Link |