Forums > General Industry > Do Strippers Make Good Models ?

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Since starting  Photography approx 7 years ago Ive pretty well exclusively shot Fashion and Fashion MOdels ( in addition to music ) but as of recent Ive decided to branch out and do more nude work ...of course mainy fashion models have little interest in this genre ( in my experience ) so I am contemplating other sources ...

Jul 26 08 12:52 pm Link

Photographer

C h a r l e s D

Posts: 9312

Los Angeles, California, US

Some make decent glamour models.  I can't get them to NOT be all glam, so they can be difficult to use.  They think they always have to have that fuck me look on their face.  Better photographers may get more out of them for their artwork.
Just like most things here, it depends.

Jul 26 08 12:54 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Holyer

Posts: 2000

Yes.

Jul 26 08 12:54 pm Link

Photographer

Gibson Photo Art

Posts: 7990

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Garry k wrote:
Since starting  Photography approx 7 years ago Ive pretty well exclusively shot Fashion and Fashion MOdels ( in addition to music ) but as of recent Ive decided to branch out and do more nude work ...of course mainy fashion models have little interest in this genre ( in my experience ) so I am contemplating other sources ...

They can be. Most I have known just start to dance because that's what they know. I have to slow them down and pose them a bit to get better shots most of the time. They can hit the sexy button real easy too. They go 0 - Whoa baby! in seconds.

Jul 26 08 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Ultra Magnus wrote:
Some make decent glamour models.  I can't get them to NOT be all glam, so they can be difficult to use.  They think they always have to have that fuck me look on their face.  Better photographers may get more out of them for their artwork.
Just like most things here, it depends.

I prefer models with the " fuck you " ( bitchy ) look on their faces ( personally )

Jul 26 08 12:56 pm Link

Photographer

Richard Roche

Posts: 57

Dayton, Nevada, US

At least two girls in my portfolio are strippers and one is a porn actress.  So yes, they can be had.  Rich

Jul 26 08 12:56 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

Garry k wrote:
Since starting  Photography approx 7 years ago Ive pretty well exclusively shot Fashion and Fashion MOdels ( in addition to music ) but as of recent Ive decided to branch out and do more nude work ...of course mainy fashion models have little interest in this genre ( in my experience ) so I am contemplating other sources ...

Sometimes the lighting in a strip club is dark for a reason. wink

Jul 26 08 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

C h a r l e s D

Posts: 9312

Los Angeles, California, US

Garry k wrote:
I prefer models with the " fuck you " ( bitchy ) look on their faces ( personally )

LOL. Well, then strippers are you PERFECT choice.  Some will even do TFP.  Lots want to start up websites but don't know how.  If you're good, they may even pay you.  I've never met a stripper that didn't want his/her picture taken.

Jul 26 08 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

glamrockin

Posts: 44

Richland, Washington, US

Someone always takes my camera at the strip club.

Jul 26 08 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

gone for good

Posts: 184

Andover, England, United Kingdom

The few I have shot have been great. They moved well, were on time, help out on the shoot, as did their escorts, and I would shoot any and all of them again. Jeff

Jul 26 08 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

EL Perdido

Posts: 9401

TERLINGUA, Texas, US

Sometimes

Jul 26 08 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

Womack Photo KCMO

Posts: 2348

Kansas City, Kansas, US

Absolutely...

3 dancers in my port!!

The most difficult part is winning their trust. Be VERY business-like when approaching them, and don't think you are telling them anything they haven't already heard. Have a physical portfolio to show them first thing...

Jul 26 08 01:00 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Christopher Hartman wrote:

Sometimes the lighting in a strip club is dark for a reason. wink

Yes I would want to see them in the light of day in order to make a decision

Jul 26 08 01:00 pm Link

Photographer

Renaud Lucas

Posts: 157

Miami, Florida, US

I have never shot with a stripper before. However I have shot with several models who were in the adult business and the obvious advantage in shooting with them for glamour or nude setups is the level of comfort they bring to the shoot. You can run any idea, any pose, any suggestion by them without having to worry about shocking her. I would imagine that a stripper has that comfort level, but that is only an assumption and therefore not proven...
Good luck to you,
~PP

Jul 26 08 01:01 pm Link

Model

JadeDRed

Posts: 5620

London, England, United Kingdom

My friend use to use them for catwalk and they tend to be very confident with few inhibitions.

Jul 26 08 01:01 pm Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Sometimes is a good answer... as much as any other person, really.

Jul 26 08 01:03 pm Link

Photographer

Joe Miglionico

Posts: 1183

West Boylston, Massachusetts, US

I got started in photography when a close friend became a stripper. I took her pics at her request, she showed them around and within a year I was the de facto photographer to all the strippers in my area. I love them, they are almost always easy to work with, open minded, fun and great people. While not al of them are gorgeous, certainly a lot of them are and they know how to pose, how to move and how to look great naturally. I wish a lot of the "models" I've worked with had the same sense of self awareness.
Several of the girls in my portfolio here and on my Myspace gallery are strippers, and I suspect most people wouldn't be able to say who was and who wasn't. Given a choice, I would pick working with the stripper any time.

Jul 26 08 01:07 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Fletcher

Posts: 7501

Norman, Oklahoma, US

Oh yes!

Jul 26 08 01:16 pm Link

Model

Dulce Ruby

Posts: 318

Los Angeles, California, US

Ultra Magnus wrote:
...They think they always have to have that fuck me look on their face...

LOL...

Jul 26 08 01:20 pm Link

Photographer

Eros Artist Photography

Posts: 1562

Solomons, Maryland, US

Leroy Dickson wrote:
Sometimes is a good answer... as much as any other person, really.

QFT -

It all depends on the individual and what features and qualities you're looking for in a model.

Jul 26 08 01:21 pm Link

Photographer

Leggy Mountbatten

Posts: 12562

Kansas City, Missouri, US

In my experience, no. They tend to want to go into their dance routine poses.

Jul 26 08 01:22 pm Link

Photographer

LuckyShots

Posts: 268

Grafton, Wisconsin, US

Depends, if you get one thats new to dancing your pretty much good to go, they are comfortable with their bodies and often can put on a pretty good smile in front of the camera.  On the other hand, with the "veterans" you can usually tell that they are strippers just by looking at the photos, something dead in the eyes I think.

Jul 26 08 01:24 pm Link

Photographer

PashaPhoto

Posts: 9726

Brooklyn, New York, US

strippers are ok as models... just don't schedule shoots in the am, and you'll be fine...

Jul 26 08 01:26 pm Link

Photographer

Joe Miglionico

Posts: 1183

West Boylston, Massachusetts, US

LuckyShots wrote:
Depends, if you get one thats new to dancing your pretty much good to go, they are comfortable with their bodies and often can put on a pretty good smile in front of the camera.  On the other hand, with the "veterans" you can usually tell that they are strippers just by looking at the photos, something dead in the eyes I think.

I can't disagree with this more. One of my favorite models is a woman who has been dancing for more than a decade. In fact most of the best stripper/models I've worked with are those who've been at it for a while. Nothing "dead" about any of them.

Jul 26 08 01:29 pm Link

Photographer

As You Wish

Posts: 88

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Like anything else it depends on the person.  I've photographed many many strippers.  It's a lot easier to win their trust as a woman though.  I've found that a lot of them are more self conscious than models, which makes it difficult when it shows up as uncomfortable looks in their eyes.  The cool thing is though, that most of them have great musculature (stripping IS a workout if you do it right!) so they work wonderful for fine art or figure studies.

Jul 26 08 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

Ron Casas Photography

Posts: 813

Chapin, South Carolina, US

Jul 26 08 01:33 pm Link

Model

Miss KH

Posts: 27

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Im a 'stripper' and i also model.  I have never been a no call no show, or show up an hour late for any shoot!  I guess it all depends on the individual.  Ive met other models who were dancers who were fabulous models.  But inn my experience, most dancers are flaky and unreliable and ALWAYS late.  Just my two cents smile

Jul 26 08 01:34 pm Link

Photographer

Nick Wade Photography

Posts: 173

Wrightsville Beach, North Carolina, US

I have to say yes also as most of the models here and on my web site are exotic dancers. they are at ease with there bodies and know what moves and poses make there bodies look good.

Jul 26 08 01:35 pm Link

Model

Miss KH

Posts: 27

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Ron Casas Photography wrote:
You tell me...

https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=8000

Ron

hahaha thats funny Ron.  I didnt even pay attention to the rest of the replies when i wrote mine.  Then, i click send and look at the message above mine and see my link..!  Youre making me blush..

Jul 26 08 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

ShivyK

Posts: 3

London, England, United Kingdom

They're a mixed bunch I think. Some have great physiques and know how to move their bodies but the down side is that when it comes to paid work they expect hourly rates that are similar to what they would earn in clubs. That's just not realistic in glamour (non-adult) photography.

Jul 26 08 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

Robert Perez

Posts: 1165

Brooklyn, New York, US

Garry k wrote:
Since starting  Photography approx 7 years ago Ive pretty well exclusively shot Fashion and Fashion MOdels ( in addition to music ) but as of recent Ive decided to branch out and do more nude work ...of course mainy fashion models have little interest in this genre ( in my experience ) so I am contemplating other sources ...

Hell yeah.

Jul 26 08 01:39 pm Link

Model

Miss Behavior

Posts: 11

Schererville, Indiana, US

Dumb question, that's like askin', "Do white people make good models?"

Everyone is different.

Jul 26 08 01:39 pm Link

Photographer

Vector 38

Posts: 8296

Austin, Texas, US

Garry k wrote:
Do Strippers Make Good Models ?

'course, don't wanna generalize too much, right? that'd almost be like 'do left-handers make good models?' or vegetarians? models who can't swim? etc. ...

Jul 26 08 01:41 pm Link

Model

Feral Oneiric

Posts: 5949

Portland, Oregon, US

Usually, yes.
Sometimes, trainwreck.

Jul 26 08 01:41 pm Link

Model

Miss KH

Posts: 27

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

ShivyK wrote:
They're a mixed bunch I think. Some have great physiques and know how to move their bodies but the down side is that when it comes to paid work they expect hourly rates that are similar to what they would earn in clubs. That's just not realistic in glamour (non-adult) photography.

I totally agree...

Jul 26 08 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

PashaPhoto wrote:
... just don't schedule shoots in the am, and you'll be fine...

You can get them to work in the am... like 12 - 3 am :-)

Jul 26 08 01:45 pm Link

Model

kristenvictoria

Posts: 2324

i danced for years it depends on the type dancer ..some dancers where all about fake eyelashes extentions etc very glam some arent some hardly wear any makeup even on stage some have a cups some have dd some tiny like 95lbs some are 129  but most are all in shape so it depends

Jul 26 08 01:46 pm Link

Model

kristenvictoria

Posts: 2324

but we do alotta posing on stage and where not afarid the camera and we can change really fast lol

Jul 26 08 01:46 pm Link

Photographer

F Stop Photography

Posts: 1711

Boynton Beach, Florida, US

those I've worked with have been just fine and dandy. a few you have to work a bit with to get that "ultra vixen" look off their face, if that's a look you're not trying to achieve. still. they KNOW the power of using their eyes, and that frequently makes for a good shot!

Jul 26 08 01:47 pm Link

Model

Miss KH

Posts: 27

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

kristenvictoria wrote:
i danced for years it depends on the type dancer ..some dancers where all about fake eyelashes extentions etc very glam some arent some hardly wear any makeup even on stage some have a cups some have dd some tiny like 95lbs some are 129  but most are all in shape so it depends

i have A cups and im 95lbs, whats wrong with that??  sad

Jul 26 08 01:48 pm Link