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Do Strippers Make Good Models ?
Constance Ruiz wrote: Just because a girl isnt a feature dancer doesnt mean shes a money grubbing whore who sucks off random strangers for 20 bucks. But unfortunately its those very girls who do, that give the rest of us a bad name. Jul 27 08 06:25 am Link Harold Rose wrote: see the dancers are the club dancer and feauters where the pornstars that come on weekend once an month .. Jul 27 08 06:31 am Link Karol Helms wrote: lol i never heard of it for 20 bucks i heard of it for 100-200 or more extra ,,, but i wouldnt work in clubs like that its skanky and i dont wanna get in trouble cause their whores lol... anyhow , Any place i worked we where toppless or if we where naked we couldnt sit on the guys lap unless we where in bathsuit or something like it ,,and there were bouncers and cams everywhere a guy touched u he got kicked out you touch a guy u got fired ,,even giving nummber if u got caught you got fined or fired .. Jul 27 08 06:34 am Link yes and they pay very well Jul 27 08 06:52 am Link My sister used to be a stripper years ago. She worked in some of the biggest strip clubs in Houston. She refused to date her customers and would never have even thought to give a guy a blow job. I remember when she was giving a guy a table dance, she had her back to him and felt something splash her legs. When she turned around he had been jerking off and came on the back of her legs. She was so grossed out by that. I still remember her telling me about it. She was jumping up and down, waving her hands and going "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god". She knew girls who gave blowjobs (and other things) for extra cash, but they seemed to be the exception rather than the rule. Most of them were girls like her, trying to make extra money for college. Some were just trying to feed their families. Oh, and back then, a stripper wouldn't be caught dead wearing platform shoes. They all wore either the 5+ inche stilleto pumps or sandals. Heh. To this day, my sister still has trouble walking in anything shorter than a 4 inch heel. Her co-workers don't understand how she can run around all day in heels (she's in sales now, her stripper days are far behind her). Jul 27 08 07:00 am Link Jeanette Thompson wrote: haha this guy un buttoned his pants said fuck me and ill pay you i kicked him in head i got fined 50 bucks for that and sent home for night lmao well worth it ,,, i love platforms so much more comfy ... i have sandals but they hurt to dance in Jul 27 08 07:08 am Link Very Interesting, I support the girls, I have seen many of them ripped off and taken advantage of, as all is in all things there are good and bad. May 07 10 12:37 am Link Off Da Chain Magazine wrote: How far did you have to dig to find a 2 year old thread to post in? May 07 10 12:44 am Link Constance Ruiz wrote:
May 07 10 12:47 am Link weird having ones 2 year old thread bumped for no apparant reason weirder still seeing people here reply to people who wrote things 2 years ago BTW I never did find any strippers to shoot , never even looked for any really May 07 10 12:49 am Link May 07 10 01:02 am Link The good ones, absoutely. Like any good dancer, they know what their bodies are doing. May 07 10 07:45 am Link 2 of the best people for shoots are Strippers and GOGO's the good ones have great bodies and they know how to show the right lines. They also play the role of the sexy illusion that you could have this person if you ever really met them. To often its hard to get any to shoot due to the fact that every jack ass with a camera goes into the clubs claiming to be great and the girls get burned in and they have a hard time wanting to shoot again. I have been shooting girls in both the club and strip club scene for years and it takes a lot of trust for the girls to shoot with just anyone. May 07 10 07:51 am Link Ron Casas Photography wrote: Damn - I thought I have seen her somewhere before... May 07 10 07:51 am Link Karol Helms wrote: How right you are - it's just like the GWC's that are only doing this to see a naked girl give us Photographers a bad name.... May 07 10 07:53 am Link I used to work in the industry and it's been my experience that as far as dancers as models are concerned, there are two different types of exotic dancer to be aware of. The first is the sustenance stripper. These are the girls that party all month long and only work in the clubs to support their flippant and flaky lifestyle. Then, round about the 25th of the month, they NEED to come into work in the worst way and are "Miss Reliable" because the rent is due, the phone bill is due, and if they miss one more payment on the Electric bill, it's getting shut off in 7 days. These are the ones you have to watch out for because if you book a shoot with one, it's a crap shoot as to reliability. Then you have the other dancers like Karol who are more stable, way more reliable, have their head on strait and treat their dancing like a business. Unfortunately, these are the rarer of the two types but in my experience, way, WAY more reliable than your average MM model wannabe. A great deal of my portfolio is from dancers, escorts, and adult entertainers here in Las Vegas. When they fit into category 2, they are an absolute pleasure to work with, even if the shoots are more conservative. It's just like dealing with any other type of model only they tend to think on a more professional level. That, and they are happy to pay well to get great results as many of them understand the value of a good photographer. May 07 10 09:04 am Link Garry k wrote: Good models? Well a good model makes a good model. May 08 10 12:42 pm Link Im super excited because a girl I went to high school with wants me to do some shots of her. She was a stripper for several years and has a lot of stripper friends (yay!). She is beautiful and knows how to move her body and is very conscious of how she looks while she moves. I cant wait to shoot some images of my own of her  May 08 10 12:48 pm Link Karol Helms wrote: I am a quite impressed with your portfolio. But as to the OP, how can one tell if one is a stipper, dancer, school marm or 7th Day Advent Preacher unless they disclose it on their port? May 08 10 03:08 pm Link They already know how to model and play to the audience, the lens is just a more intimate venue...in short...YES! xoxo May 08 10 03:58 pm Link Some don't even make good strippers... May 08 10 03:59 pm Link yes, they do. May 08 10 03:59 pm Link Mostly yes May 08 10 04:02 pm Link In my experience, yes! Most anyone who can dance makes a good model for me. Well ... at least one who can take clothes off!  May 08 10 04:03 pm Link It depends on 2 factors also. 1- is it a TFP 2- Are they coming to you as a client. This is important because as a glamour photographer I have come across many 'exotic dancers' who are very cheap (stingy $$) and believe they can get you to do a TFP with them just because of their looks and what they do. If it benefits your folio fine do it as a TFP but they make good$ so you should value your time and work also. keep in mind she may use your images to promote her business further so somewhere down the line she is profiting from your talent. As to how GOOD they are in front of a lens is questionable, those who are every confident will perform well in front of a camera. Those who aren't comfortable with themselves will not. Remember not every dancer, does it for the same reason...some out of necessity...if they aren't comfortable on stage , chances are they wont be in front of a lens either... May 08 10 04:07 pm Link Just don't let them pose in front of a mirror - all you'll get are cheesy, pouty lipped Zoolander, look at my biceps and hairy pits poses.... And that's just the guys! May 08 10 04:11 pm Link I would say yes! May 08 10 04:15 pm Link May 08 10 04:19 pm Link Karol Helms wrote: +1 May 08 10 04:20 pm Link Brian Baybo wrote: LMFAO!!! So very true! May 08 10 04:23 pm Link Cherilyn Fontaine wrote: +1 May 08 10 04:24 pm Link Thomas DelPorte wrote: Garry k wrote: I never looked at is being involved in the sex industry. Of course, when I was dancing the girls who had sex with customers did so OUT of the club and lap dancing was just coming into play. I don't see acting sexy as sex or the sex industry. I see pornography as the sex industry. May 08 10 04:25 pm Link omgosh, there's no such thing as a stripper ( genre ) do you think a baseball player would make a good used car salesman ... for every woman there is a type and style of woman if you do not understand this.... buy a dog you will need the company .... the true definition of insanity ..... "I met two women who were exactly the same" May 08 10 04:28 pm Link Karol Helms wrote: You know my attorney? May 08 10 04:29 pm Link Do bowlers make good carpenters? Do waiters make good golfers? Do singers make good bakers? Do you stereotype much? IT DEPENDS ON THE GIRL, NOT ON WHAT SHE DOES, OR DOESN'T DO, FOR A LIVING! :-) p.s. note my avatar! May 08 10 04:31 pm Link Garry k wrote: Photography of the professional glamour models has evolved, over the years. 40's very strongly posed, and the need for publicity photos was strong.. 50's began to get a little more creative. Stripper took on popular themes. May 08 10 04:38 pm Link FitzMulti - Las Vegas wrote: I have to disagree. Dancers are sexy for a living so it would make sense they would make decent models. There's being stereotypical and there's just plain making sense. May 08 10 04:40 pm Link I will take a stripper model with the Fuck me look any time rather than a model who only has one Dead Deer look. May 08 10 04:44 pm Link Garry k wrote: Congrats Garry, the award for the longest time between OP and last post goes to you...your prize is a dancer to shoot...now go find her. May 08 10 05:34 pm Link Tracii Taylor wrote: Thomas DelPorte wrote: Garry k wrote: I never looked at is being involved in the sex industry. Of course, when I was dancing the girls who had sex with customers did so OUT of the club and lap dancing was just coming into play. I don't see acting sexy as sex or the sex industry. I see pornography as the sex industry. I can understand your points... It is a matter of regulation and enforcement, not morality or judgment. May 08 10 06:46 pm Link |
