Forums > Model Colloquy > Should a model bring a boy friend to a shoot

Photographer

ProShotPhoto

Posts: 486

Bellingham, Massachusetts, US

If they must bring a friend it should be a boyfriend.  I think it is funny.  They come to protect he and fall asleep.

I have anyone who accompanies the model sit in a seperate room.  This keeps them isolated and none BUT boyfreinds have had the patience to sit long without complaint.

But bringing a freind in the first place is nessisary if you are underage and childish  if you are an adult.  smile

Oct 08 05 05:34 am Link

Photographer

ProShotPhoto

Posts: 486

Bellingham, Massachusetts, US

Delirium Filth wrote:

I agree! My boyfriend isnt some psycho ass  dude thats going to interrupt the shoot or get in the way or want to kick the photog's ass if touched me to tie me up or move me or something. I bring him along because he is my best friend and MY SAFETY comes first. And I trust him completely not like some of my other friends. So really, if the photographer has a problem with my boyfriend being there then I will NOT do the shoot no matter what.

The boyfriend is no different from anyone else - but no one is allowed in the shooting room when I shoot.  This is because the models do not need distractions and should be modelling for the camera only - not any visitor.  So we would not shoot - unless the seperation. 

After all the visitor is there to provide security which makes the model feel more comfortable at times - and comfortable models are better subjects than uncomfortable ones.

Oct 08 05 05:40 am Link

Model

Lillith Leda

Posts: 663

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Should a model bring a boyfriend? Not at bloody all. It's disruptive, it's annoying and it will without a question affect the model's ability to do her job properly.

If you feel you need protection from a photographer you shouldn't be working with him/her. Get references, meet beforehand and if you're then still unsure about your safety but absolutely MUST work with said photographer, make sure the boyfriend/friend is nearby, a call away. If you're going to shoot in some desolute unpopulated area with no civlization in sight, well then perhaps it may be understandable.

But as a general rule, it's the most ridiculous thing ever.

Oct 08 05 05:51 am Link

Photographer

Chris Lincoln Photo

Posts: 51

Boca Raton, Florida, US

What I have found over the years is it comes down to the age of the model. If she is 19 and into her early 20's I'd prefer if her boyfriend stayed home. The problem will be the young boy friend not being mature enough to let her become comfortable and have a relaxing shoot. Most (not all) boy friends of younger girls will have a problem with the girl doing this for a living or hobby. There is a good chance that they argued on the way to the shoot and the problem will be it shows on the models face. She'll feel uncomfortable during the shoot and that will make for a bad set.

It seems the older the model is the better spouses or boy friends act. They are a little more accepting to what she is doing and in fact most of the time they don't want to come to the shoot.

So as a general rule, I want the model to do what she feels most comfortable doing, but I usually say bring someone other than the spouse or boy friend.

Oct 08 05 07:27 am Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

Some additional links on the issue.

Photographer Husbands, boyfriends and SO
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=7430

Models that bring boyfriends to Photoshoots.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?t … 491&page=1

escorts
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=12470

Escorts/Chaperones... who do I bring?
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=7445

The Rules For Bringing Escorts On Shoots
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=7350

Who cares what escorts think???
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=6146

what do you think of Escorts who bring their own camera
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=5343

Escorts/Boyfriends/Chaperones/bla bla bla
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=8777

There are likely more.
Have fun reading.

Oct 08 05 07:35 am Link

Model

AMI

Posts: 7

Atlanta, Georgia, US

My husband has gone to EVERY shoot with me and there has NEVER been an issue.  And in most cases, he helps the photographer with lighting, etc.

I think it should be left up to the model to decide what she feels comfortable with or not.  If she is not comfortable (alone or with her b/f or hubby), it will come across in the photos. 

Angelina smile

Oct 08 05 07:46 am Link

Model

Barbray

Posts: 885

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Eric Muss-Barnes wrote:
But if you don't go to work with your boyfriend, who will make sure that nobody rapes him?!

LOL@Eric...

Just another reason I do not have a boyfriend. I do not have time to babysit or protect or defend his honor. But if I did have a boyfriend...He would be on his own with three choices:
fight/flight/surrender.

Oct 08 05 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

TR PHOTO

Posts: 227

Los Angeles, California, US

I say if they're under 18 bring someone- I don't like shooting kids without a parent present - if they are over 18 no - it is not a good idea.

Oct 08 05 05:54 pm Link

Photographer

J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

mollie_lane wrote:

LOL@Eric...

Just another reason I do not have a boyfriend. I do not have time to babysit or protect or defend his honor. But if I did have a boyfriend...He would be on his own with three choices:
fight/flight/surrender.

You don't have a boyfriend. I'm going to Georgia... wink

[ sounds of door slamming and car starting ]

smile
John

Oct 08 05 05:54 pm Link

Photographer

JonasJ

Posts: 287

København, Hovedstaden, Denmark

For a pro model NEVER EVER..

I can see the point for some new models seeking photographers on the net and just wanting to bring there boyfriend just to check that it's not a pysco in the other end, but I still think he should leave (or be outsite in another room) when the shooting is on.

IMHO on the subject.

//JonasJ.com

Oct 08 05 06:01 pm Link

Model

Barbray

Posts: 885

Atlanta, Georgia, US

John Allan wrote:

You don't have a boyfriend. I'm going to Georgia... wink

[ sounds of door slamming and car starting ]

smile
John

ROTFL........John...John...John

Oct 08 05 06:02 pm Link

Photographer

mikele

Posts: 4

Chicago, Illinois, US

We make the boyfriends stay in the lobby while we shoot. We give em ESPN, a soda, and a maxim magazine, and that seems to keep em quiet for a few hours.

Oct 08 05 06:06 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

stylist man

Posts: 34382

New York, New York, US

mollie_lane wrote:
Just another reason I do not have a boyfriend. I do not have time to babysit or protect or defend his honor. But if I did have a boyfriend...He would be on his own with three choices:
fight/flight/surrender.

John Allan wrote:
You don't have a boyfriend. I'm going to Georgia... wink

[ sounds of door slamming and car starting ]

smile
John

Never I have a Shopping cart flying time machine that can criss cross the nation in minutes.   (the time machine part helps out for likely obvious reasons)

It even allows room for Mowrie's horseys.   I surrender in flight with no fight let in me.
Plus Mollie would kick your butt anyway if you were out of line.  She has  a clue.

Oct 08 05 06:07 pm Link

Photographer

Wil with one L

Posts: 394

Malibu, California, US

NOPE. ( just had to get my "nope" in there)

I am considering limiting escorts unless I talk with them first and they are there to contribute to the shoot in some way. One too many cell-phone-talking, "when are we going" chaperones have irked me lately.

Oct 08 05 06:12 pm Link

Model

Barbray

Posts: 885

Atlanta, Georgia, US

MHana wrote:

Never I have a Shopping cart flying time machine that can criss cross the nation in minutes.   (the time machine part helps out for likely obvious reasons)

It even allows room for Mowrie's horseys.   I surrender in flight with no fight let in me.
Plus Mollie would kick your butt anyway if you were out of line.  She has  a clue.

LOL@Markiesannnnn!

Isn't it your bedtime yet?!
Time for Markiesan to say Nighty night?!
((grinning))

Yes you do surrender TOO easily...Tsk...Tsk...Tsk...Hanachan was SO embarassed.
Just remember to leave the day-glo orange toxic waste jumpsuit and the neon goggles at home or change BEFORE you hit the Georgia line...THIS time.  It upsets the horses and the APD. And you are right....sheeeeeesh, I have not enjoyed kicking butt for almost 24 hours. A real record for me! I MUST be ill!

wink

Mowrie Wane

Oct 08 05 06:53 pm Link

Model

Aria S

Posts: 12

Bentonville, Arkansas, US

If it makes the model feel better and If the pics are better, than I think it's a good thing. I don't see why it should be such a big deal to a photographer if the bf/hubby stay out of the way. If it is a big deal than that should be pretty obvious that he has other things on his mind. It may be just a little fantasy of theirs that they get to be alone with a beautiful girl and don't have to worry about saying things like ( you have such a nice ass) or (you are every mans fantasy!)
   You can look at my portfolio and try to tell if my husband was there. I bet you can't. He was there for every shot though. The way I see it is just because you are a photographer doesn't mean you are a saint. If I need adjusted, oiled up, or touched in some way I'm going to have someone I feel comfortable with doing it. Not the photographer.
   I don't want to sound bitchy but it is hard when you get so much shit about this when you and your husband have great references and try to be extremely nice people. Just my 2 cents...

Oct 08 05 10:31 pm Link

Photographer

lll

Posts: 12295

Seattle, Washington, US

KM von Seidl wrote:
oh god, you're also a member of the audrey cult?

So are a lot of people.  smile

And don't merge this with the Audrey thread.  It's not decadent enough.

Oct 08 05 10:47 pm Link

Photographer

JenniferMaria

Posts: 1780

Miami Beach, Florida, US

john photographer wrote:
Afriend wants me to ask you photographers and models this question.
Is it professional for a model to bring his or hers, girl/boy friend on a photo shoot?

Is it professional? In my opinion, it's fine: As long as they stay out of my way and don't make the model cry. 

-Jennifer Maria

Oct 08 05 11:24 pm Link

Model

VampireKitten

Posts: 92

Kansas City, Kansas, US

In my honist opinion... yes and no. I am seeing people with many mixed opinions which include Photographer vs. Boyfriend  and/or model vs photographer horror stories.

When it comes to this I feel I am one of the lucky ones, I have a fiancee who was a voice actor and has been in the entertainment industry before. He understands the job of the photographer more so than anyone else I know. So bringing him with me causes no problems, he is silent and patient.

I say bring them with you the first time, if the photographer or the boyfriend doesn't work then stick the boyfriend in another room till the shoot is over or tell him to leave and pick you up later. The photographer may never work with you again, but you learn about how your boyfriend handles this kind of thing. You also need to explain to your boyfriend that this, like any other job, is professional and they need to understand this is what YOU do. If they don't like it, then odds are you two aren't going to work out in the end anyway.

As for the photographers, I am not saying ALL of you are G'sWC however it can and does happen and I, being a woman, would rather have someone there to help me if things get out of hand. Though photographers need to also understand that women usually do this for their own saftey (unless the model and boyfriend are immature and don't realize they are never going to make it with that kind of addittide) and that it's improper to punish those models you havn't worked with because of bad experiances in the past.

Oct 11 05 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

DHayes Photography

Posts: 4962

Richmond, Virginia, US

I have no problem with a model bringing her boyfriend or anyone else to a shoot, as long as they don't interfere or offer "suggestions".  I had one model bring her husband to a shoot and he didn't say a word the entire session.  He just sat in a corner and glared at us the whole time.  It turned out that he hated the idea of his wife modeling for photographers and artists. Another time, a model was working with my 17 foot python and brought her boyfriend to the shoot.  He also did not say a word during the entire shoot.  He was scared out of his wits and stayed as far from his girlfriend and the snake as he could!

Several times I have had the person accompanying the model end up modeling for me also.  I was photographing a pregnant model who brought her even more pregnant friend with her to the session.  The model was only four months along, her friend was within a week of delivering.  I wound up shooting them both, separately and together.  Most of the male/female shoots I have done have been with boyfriend/girlfriends or married couples.

On the down side, I have had models who wanted to bring hubby or boyfriend along because these guys REALLY enjoyed the thought of another person looking at their wife/girlfriend nude.  One guy did his wife's makeup and clothes, really going overboard "tarting" her up with revealing and fetish styled clothing.

Doug

Oct 22 05 06:53 am Link

Photographer

- null -

Posts: 4576

mollie_lane wrote:
Just another reason I do not have a boyfriend. I do not have time to babysit or protect or defend his honor.

Well, that's okay, little girl. When you're old enough to date men instead of boys, I'm sure you'll find someone who can take care of himself.

yikes

Oct 22 05 11:39 am Link

Photographer

MediaVisual

Posts: 188

Orlando, Florida, US

Whats up with all this silly ass llama herder shit???????

Granted, there are very very rare times when an llama herder MIGHT be appropriate, but as a norm,,,HELL NO, PERIOD!

Are you upstart models wannabes, or whatever you call yourselves, out of your minds?

DO YOU HAVE AN llama herder WHEN:

Get on a bus?
You go grocery shopping?
Go to the car wash?
Go shopping at the mall?Or should I say Target
Go walking the college campus?
When you take a shit?

Give it a break,,,What is this, Fear Factor, the llama herder Saga?

And before you all hate me, I realize all the safety issues and all that other crap but I dont care how helpful, how great, and how un-jealous a significant other is,,It is by it's very nature a distraction to both the photog and the model.

Another poster said it herself: "I see him looking at me and he's so cute"

That right there tells you her mind is not on the shoot.
When you are on a shoot you have to be totally focused on the objective.
Anyone that that does not belong there is nothing but a distraction.

Even if they are not a trouble maker it still disturbs the continuity.

If a knight in shining armour, protector against all evil is allowed to llama herder they need to be nowhere on the job, they can sit in the car, read a book, or call the model at a given time. Although the later may be difficult because half of them dont even have a phone.

Then of course you will end up with the idiots that are bitching every half hour,,Are you almost done?,,How much longer are you gonna be?,, I'm bored.

Who needs that kind of hassle?

If a person is on set that does not have an active roll or interest in the shoot, then they dont need to be there.

I'll tell you something else I have noticed. A lot of these so called models dont even have a way to get to a shoot and thats why some of them play the llama herder game, just to get a ride.

They over embellish thier Profile to make themselves sound all hot shit, and when you talk to them on the phone you can tell by the first two words out of thier mouth that your dealing with an airhead.

I have come to the assumption that they dont need the llama herder for protection, They need them to figure out what day it is, and whether they are facing north or south.

There has got to be a way to weed these dipshits out.

I thought they kind of screened these people before they granted a membership to MM?

I read some of the profiles and it's a no brainer that some still belong playing with Barbies.

This is not aimed at legitimate people trying to build a career, it's aimed at the airhead flakes that waste the legitimate peoples time.

Anyway how was your day?

Mark

Oct 22 05 05:57 pm Link

Photographer

KFW

Posts: 32

Los Angeles, California, US

No way, bring a friend of the same sex if anything, or a gay friend.

Oct 22 05 06:23 pm Link

Photographer

MediaVisual

Posts: 188

Orlando, Florida, US

Ariana Sieber wrote:
If it is a big deal than that should be pretty obvious that he has other things on his mind. It may be just a little fantasy of theirs that they get to be alone with a beautiful girl and don't have to worry about saying things like ( you have such a nice ass) or (you are every mans fantasy!)
   You can look at my portfolio and try to tell if my husband was there. I bet you can't. He was there for every shot though. The way I see it is just because you are a photographer doesn't mean you are a saint. If I need adjusted, oiled up, or touched in some way I'm going to have someone I feel comfortable with doing it. Not the photographer.

You have got to be kidding,,,If you need to be oiled or adjusted you can have your husband do it??

CUT=======Get the oiling husband

You are ignorant,,,,,,,,,,You dont have to worry about that with a  professional,,and you are supposed to know who you are working with.

A true professional photographer will talk all kinds of smack and whatever it takes to get his model in the groove. If you are working with a pervert thats your fault and it shows you dont know your game very well.

And if you are offended by a well executed flattering comment then you are in the wrong business.
Modeling is all about selling your look.
The next thing you know, you will be saying an agency is just treating you like a piece of meat.
Wake up call,,The industry really doesnt give a shit about you, only what you look like.

If my model needs something adjusted, I will tell her and point it out If she still cant get I will offer to help, if she has to get somebody on the cell phone to come help, then the shoot is over.

I have told my models countless times that they have nice buns or a great rack while we are shooting ( not in a leering way either),,They love it, and it shows in thier attitude and photos. They love to be flattered.
I think it is you who have the Perve complex.
Get a gay photographer sometime sweetie,,They will tell you up one side and down the other about how your goodies look!
(Good or Bad)

Are you oblivious to the fact that runway models are all butt naked on changes with anybody and everybody running around, cameras, crew?
Oh I know, they're gay men looking at your boobies your safe. But how do you know that it's not a Pervert posing as a gay man.  Da,, da da,, da== Enter Super Hubby to protect you from those gay posers.

Maybe next time you go to the OB/GYN you can have your husband do the PAP smear,,,You dont want somebody that spends ten years to be a Doctor touching your gold plated Tootie.

Good lord girl,,you struck a nerve, get a clue.

And with that rack you got,,do you really expect that anyone would not notice? Those things are insane.

Have a good evening.

Oct 22 05 06:32 pm Link

Photographer

MediaVisual

Posts: 188

Orlando, Florida, US

Kevin Weaver wrote:
No way, bring a friend of the same sex if anything, or a gay friend.

Oh yea Kevin,, those gay guys sure come in handy,,,Such a safe alterative to a straight man.

To infer that a gay guy is any safer than someone else is absolutely ignorant!

Sounds like you dont trust yourself,, But now if you happend to be gay, all the problems would be solved.

All us shooters could just hire you for model protection and you could sell your camera or give it to someone that will put it to good use.

Oct 22 05 06:50 pm Link

Photographer

GIRL ART

Posts: 77

Midlothian, Illinois, US

If the photographer is honest and sincere about what he's doing and everyone involved knows what's going down, it should not matter who she brings to the set as long as they do not interfere or get in the way. This should be made clear right from the start.

Jim

Oct 22 05 09:08 pm Link

Model

Brynhild

Posts: 95

As chaperone, yes, but not to interfere.  In some cases BF's will cramp the shoots style.
But on the other hand, boyfriends tend to make photographers nervous because they may not be able to shoot you nude without issues with the BF.

They will be ok if you bring a girl with you, but if it's a boy WATCHOUT!
Photographers often cannot handle more than one penis in the vicinity.
Argue all you want, 90% of the time it is fact.

If the photographer won't let you bring a chaperone, maybe it is the photographer you should worry about, not the boyfriend.

Oct 22 05 09:17 pm Link

Photographer

MediaVisual

Posts: 188

Orlando, Florida, US

[quote

Posted by Delirium Filth: 
So really, if the photographer has a problem with my boyfriend being there then I will NOT do the shoot no matter what.

Horse Hocky, If you were getting paid 5K to do a shoot and they said no escorts, you would be on all fours!

Oct 22 05 10:13 pm Link

Model

Linda T

Posts: 346

Lubbock, Texas, US

I think that having a friend is good.  My bf can handle it and doesn't mind and actually loves supporting me in everything I do so it's nice to have him there too!  I never go to shoots without someone with me.  For me it calms my nerves when I'm doing something new to know someone is there with me and it helps me perform better, but if I absolutely can't bring someone I wi;; just have them wait outside for me, lol.  So, I guess it just depends on the person eh?

Oct 25 05 03:53 am Link

Model

liviamodel

Posts: 117

SOUTHWEST, Pennsylvania, US

Ariana Sieber wrote:
If it makes the model feel better and If the pics are better, than I think it's a good thing. I don't see why it should be such a big deal to a photographer if the bf/hubby stay out of the way. If it is a big deal than that should be pretty obvious that he has other things on his mind. It may be just a little fantasy of theirs that they get to be alone with a beautiful girl and don't have to worry about saying things like ( you have such a nice ass) or (you are every mans fantasy!)
   You can look at my portfolio and try to tell if my husband was there. I bet you can't. He was there for every shot though. The way I see it is just because you are a photographer doesn't mean you are a saint. If I need adjusted, oiled up, or touched in some way I'm going to have someone I feel comfortable with doing it. Not the photographer.
   I don't want to sound bitchy but it is hard when you get so much shit about this when you and your husband have great references and try to be extremely nice people. Just my 2 cents...

I'm with you.  I don't bring a BF to my shoots but my chaperone does not leave the room.

Oct 25 05 03:58 am Link

Model

Sara Beth

Posts: 487

New York, New York, US

i brought my boyfriend and a female friend with me to a fairly long shoot (i had had a very bad expereince and was nervous so i doubled up on chaperones, lol). they pretty much sat and watched tv and talked to each other while i went all around the photographer's studio/rooftop/alley and shot. I really wanted my bf to see waht I was doing, and plus I wasn't taking any lingere shots or anything that might cause bf/gf contraversy, and he really liked it. he watched for maybe 5-10 min the whole time and he made me smile a lot which the photographer liked (i have trouble smiling genuinely on comand)...overal, i agree w/ those who say it depends on the relationship of the gf/bf. i think it also depends on the type of shoot...girls, if you know ur bf will get jealous/mad watching you taking pics in your panties, don't bring him to that shoot! no "rules" should be made about it...t's kind of basic intution/common sense on the part of the model.

Oct 25 05 05:17 am Link

Model

Caitlin-Aimee

Posts: 5

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Well when you think about it... how is bringing a boyfriend to a shoot different than bringing your father to a shoot.
I know I would not be comfortable with them seeing me pose in lingerie, and I don't think they would be either. It just makes it more inhibiting and difficult. Unless your boy is a model too.

Oct 25 05 06:22 am Link

Model

Inamourada Flux

Posts: 238

Cheshunt, England, United Kingdom

I'm only a newbie model, so I feel a lot more comfortable bringing someone with me to a shoot with a photographer contacted online. I don't know how anyone could criticise me for this.

My boyfriend is genuinely interested in it all, and for an upcoming shoot the photographer asked him if he wouldn't mind helping him move props and bits of scenery around. He's a helping hand. And when it gets down to shooting, he just stays out of the way with his PDA and doesn't interfere at all.

Oct 25 05 06:29 am Link

Photographer

Sweet Light Studios

Posts: 80

South San Francisco, California, US

john photographer wrote:
Afriend wants me to ask you photographers and models this question.
Is it professional for a model to bring his or hers, girl/boy friend on a photo shoot?

Because of the amount of pervs out there pretending to be photographers, we recommend that a model bring a friend or family member to at least the first shoot with an unknown photographer. 
Of course the support person is expected to sit quietly during the shoot.

Robin

Oct 25 05 12:26 pm Link