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Underage models that say "Yes" to nudes
I know it may be a huge ass can of worms, but whatever. So you have these 16-17 years olds here who, according to their profiles, "will pose nude". We all know that there are also creeps and pedos around here looking for that type of thing. I'm wondering... if one of these models posted a nude pic in their port, how would anyone know and care to report it ? Does MM even have people who are keeping an eye on these kids ? I think it's nothing short of retarded to let anyone under 18 to have an option to mark their profiles "Yes" to nudes. I'm just saying... Disgust... ahem, I mean discuss. Apr 05 11 11:40 am Link Its not automatically illegal if a minor poses nude, so they are more than allowed to do it and say they do it. They are not allowed to post it on MM however, so if you come across one, simply CAM it. Its not MMs job to parent the kiddies running around taking their clothes off. Apr 05 11 11:47 am Link This is the parents responsibility , not MM's or anyone for that matter . Apr 05 11 11:48 am Link I'd report it, and i'd also message them telling them to wait abit. It shouldn't be allowed regardless of guardian signature or not your getting yourself in trouble if you shoot them. Apr 05 11 11:50 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: ditto.. Apr 05 11 11:51 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: I get that, but the point is that why not just take away that feature altogether if it's not legal on this site ? You can't use any images marked 18+ as an avatar, right ? Using the same analogy here. Apr 05 11 11:55 am Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: here here to that! Apr 05 11 11:56 am Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: Well it isn't illegal for a minor to pose nude, I recall the crap storm when Brook Shields did as a young woman. Because of that, and as I recall 17 is an adult in the UK for example, MM doesn't police that. Apr 05 11 11:57 am Link Actually I think MM does edit the images and visibility of 18+ images to users under 18. Not that there aren't ways around it, but MM does seem to be pretty responsible about it within their ability. ID, please? (ALWAYS, and I photograph the ID itself and store with the images.) Apr 05 11 11:58 am Link Age of consent is different in every state, and country, for that matter. Not that you can do a lot with the images, since the national "age" is 18. It's also legal if you get parent's consent. David Hamilton and Jock Sturges have made a career of shooting underage kids nude, but I don't see them in jail. Apr 05 11 11:58 am Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: It is a Very thin line but a minor can be photographed nude as long as it is done artfully but like i said it is a very very thin line. the minor can not be posed in a pose that that can be seen or felt as sexual at that time it is now classified as pornography of a minor which is illegal. Apr 05 11 12:00 pm Link Jac Knight wrote: THIS. Full Stop. Apr 05 11 12:03 pm Link it is not as already been stated for minors of any age to be photographed in the nude ,however anyone thinking about doing so would be foolish not to have parents involved and good legal representation to boot just in case. one of the most well known cases is of Brook Shields photographed at age 12 by a well known photographer,her mother's idea not hers.They were published and then in later years when she was about 23,she tried to stop the photographer from using the photos because as she said "it would embaress her and ruin her reputation".The judge threw the case out,the photos were published,manily because the photogapher had his legal act together. Apr 05 11 12:04 pm Link Jac Knight wrote: Haha, so even though it can be legal depending on circumstances it shouldn't be allowed? Apr 05 11 12:04 pm Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: Suggest that in the Site Related forum. I dont think MM allows minors to check the "yes to nudes" box intentionally, just that nobody ever coded it in such a way that they couldnt. Apr 05 11 12:05 pm Link Incident Image wrote: Age of consent has nothing to do with age allowed to be naked. Apr 05 11 12:08 pm Link Jac Knight wrote: +1 Apr 05 11 12:08 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: It is also considered the age where you become an "adult", and therefore can make decisions independent of your parents, so yes it does. Apr 05 11 12:09 pm Link I've seen it. I've reported it. They've been removed. Do i care what a 17 yr old girl does? No not really. Do I see a huge issue with nudity, or a drastic difference between 18 and 17? no not at all. I didn't report it due to moral outrage or protecting children or any of that Amerinonsense over boobies. I did it for totally selfish business reasons. If this site posts minors naked and gets shut down, in legal trouble or loses ad revenue, *I* lose money from bookings. Modelmayhem has been very good to me over the years (been here since it was a week old) and if looking out for it's best interests also accomplishes looking out for my own, then so be it. Apr 05 11 12:09 pm Link hmm...it seems to me that if a person under age poses nude and posts it on MM then, isn't MM hosting child porn? I'm sure there's a lawyer out there that can prove that case. Just another reason I don't do nudes - too much BS... Apr 05 11 12:09 pm Link i'm sure when setting up an account they just did it the quick way and clicked anything and everything and didnt go over it that well ... i'm sure thats the case.. Apr 05 11 12:09 pm Link Incident Image wrote: 19 in Alabama Apr 05 11 12:11 pm Link As a photographer I won't shoot anyone under the age of 18 without having a parent there for the protection of the child and myself. Apr 05 11 12:13 pm Link Incident Image wrote: If its legal, a minor doesnt need a parental permission slip to do it. Apr 05 11 12:14 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: It is legal, but there are restrictions. And parental consent is still typically needed - to use your driver's license analogy, kind of like driving with a permit. So yes, it does matter, depending on the circumstances. Apr 05 11 12:18 pm Link You never know who you are really talking to on the internet. You may be seeing a few baited profiles. I would just steer clear. Apr 05 11 12:18 pm Link Jeffrey Blake Adams wrote: 16 in Alabama Apr 05 11 12:20 pm Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: It is the photographer that has the responsibility.. You lean on the door of liability for using an underage model.. Now How Do you Know.. We have a fixed procedure, A signed and verified model release. Photo ID Before photography!!! The Photo ID and signed release, is the same for everyone.. 60 or 16 makes no difference. And the release is signed before the photography.. Apr 05 11 12:21 pm Link Incident Image wrote: Since we're citing Wiki... It should not be confused with the age of majority, age of criminal responsibility, the marriageable age, the age at which one can purchase and consume alcoholic beverages, or drive a car, or other purposes. Apr 05 11 12:26 pm Link Although the age of consent varies from country, it is against MM's rules- a model must be 18+ to have implied, let alone nude shots in their port. If you see it, CAM it. Apr 05 11 12:26 pm Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: There are creeps and pedos everywhere... Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: It's not MM's job to monitor the activities of a child. That should be the parents' job. To your second statement; people have a pretty broad definition of what defines nudity. For many, posing in lingerie is tantamount to posing nude. Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: If you bothered to search, this topic has been literally beaten into the ground. Apr 05 11 12:32 pm Link Creative Exposure wrote: Having the parent there doesn't really do shit to protect you. What? You're assuming that a parent won't like on behalf of his/her child? Apr 05 11 12:33 pm Link Another nude thread. Apr 05 11 12:34 pm Link Aesthetic Photoworks wrote: It could say yes while not even intending for it to be that way. Sometimes people don't select the right stuff or even understand what they are doing at times. Apr 05 11 12:39 pm Link William Kious wrote: I think it's hillarious how you say that ^ Apr 05 11 12:44 pm Link Hmmmmm . . . . I just ran a search of models under 18 that do nudes and only found one, from Colombia that is 17 I really don't think this is something worth worrying about. Maybe the OP just has too much time on his hands KM Apr 05 11 12:48 pm Link ForeverFotos wrote: This is very true ... a lot of communities have a full time copy doing nothing but troll the web for potential molestors. It's an area that a jury may have to decide, and if you think juries always make good decisions, be prepared for some hard time in prison if you're ever accused. Apr 05 11 12:53 pm Link Awhile back, a model on here did a photo set for a fashion magazine. It included one shot of her in a very see-through photo. She posted it, thinking nothing of it. It was marked M, and then she couldn't see the photo of herself. Nude photos aren't illegal. And magazines in other countries aren't as worried about 16- or 17-year-olds being nude or nearly nude. Obviously, shooting stuff that falls under 2257 with an under-age model is not just inappropriate and a violation of MM rules ... It's also illegal. Apr 05 11 12:55 pm Link Incident Image wrote: You make it sound like photographing 16 year-old models, nude, would be illegal without parental consent. It's not, anywhere in the US. Apr 05 11 12:58 pm Link I only know of one, and she is married, so no- I doubt it would be worth the bother. If someone reported it, MM could simply state that their policy is to handle that as they find it. KAW. Apr 05 11 01:01 pm Link |