Model
Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Kamarose wrote: Oof. I've had a photographer call me at 4 AM once. NOT COOL. Pro tip, guys: don't do that. +1 Agreed
Photographer
RTE Photography
Posts: 1511
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US
Eurocat wrote: This is a thread derived from the 'annoying things models do' bit in the 'other' forum. This is about model's pet peeves, not horror storries about rape and molestation. I go first: It is a pet peeve of mine, when the photographer keeps wanting to feed me, (upon a wrapped set, before I get ready to leave), although I repeatedly said "No, thank you." "I am ocd about my diet." " I appreciate the effort, but I am good." "I don't eat this or that, but thank you." "I am really not hungry." I understand that in most it's not just about the hospitality thing, and good manners, but a little father complex. "Must feed starving child." Really, you are sweet, but please don't make me explain my whole issue about why I don't eat certain things, we'll be there for another hour. Edit: I'd love a glass of water, all the time, every time. Please and thank you. The first rule that all photographers should learn is "Don't feed the models". Once you do, you can never get rid of them.
Model
Rachel_Elizabeth_22
Posts: 388
Birmingham, England, United Kingdom
Kamarose wrote: Oof. I've had a photographer call me at 4 AM once. NOT COOL. Pro tip, guys: don't do that. Ugh that same guy said he'd ring me at 11pm to confirm more details for the next day, he rang me a 1.30 in the morning, thinking I'd be awake and coherent! @_@
Model
Rachel_Elizabeth_22
Posts: 388
Birmingham, England, United Kingdom
RTE Photography wrote: The first rule that all photographers should learn is "Don't feed the models". Once you do, you can never get rid of them. Lmao
Model
Alexandra R Y
Posts: 466
Amberg, Bavaria, Germany
BrandonLuong wrote: haha I've been told I bring weird food. I get everything from the health food store across the street so its always these weird vedgie chips and organic juices. I guess people arent a fan but oh well. I would love that! 0.o
Photographer
mphunt
Posts: 923
Hudson, Florida, US
Kamarose wrote: Oof. I've had a photographer call me at 4 AM once. NOT COOL. Pro tip, guys: don't do that. What time was the session scheduled for? 4:00am is reasonable for a 6:00am start time.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Kamarose wrote: Oof. I've had a photographer call me at 4 AM once. NOT COOL. Pro tip, guys: don't do that. I had a model cancel a 9 am shoot with a message at 3 am, because she had decided she was "too fat to be a model." NOT COOL.
Model
Kam Arose
Posts: 6014
Berkeley, California, US
mphunt wrote: What time was the session scheduled for? 4:00am is reasonable for a 6:00am start time. No session. This guy just wanted to call and chat about fuckin' ideas.
Model
aka Lo
Posts: 281
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
Augustine York wrote: Sets my teeth on edge to have to listen to rants about other models re: flaking, nudity, no nudity, "porn", escorts, punctuality, tattoos, breast implants, hair color, etc etc... especially when they end up trash talking girls I'm friends with. That's a one-way ticket to my "never work with again" list. Ugh. THIS. I don't even understand it, especially in this area. We're such a small industry that I think it's safe to assume a lot of people are well acquainted with one another so why risk talking bad about someone I consider a friend? Now, general talk about flakiness is okay for small talk since it seems to be common ground, but let's not call people out ya know .
Photographer
James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I know that models don't really like it when I grab some of their wardrobe and prance around the studio yelling "does this make me look fat???"
Photographer
Mr Banner
Posts: 85322
Hayward, California, US
food is how I bribe many models! *stops immediately*
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
aka Lo wrote: Ugh. THIS. I don't even understand it, especially in this area. We're such a small industry that I think it's safe to assume a lot of people are well acquainted with one another so why risk talking bad about someone I consider a friend? Now, general talk about flakiness is okay for small talk since it seems to be common ground, but let's not call people out ya know . If you had a bad experience with a photographer, would you keep it secret because the person hearing about it might be their friend? Personally, if I'm legitimately doing something wrong, I want to know about it so I can work on it.
Photographer
Mr Banner
Posts: 85322
Hayward, California, US
when I modeled, the guy who ... after several weeks of emails about ideas... a long phone conversation about ideas (i hate the phone, but I sucked it up because I liked his work) called and wanted me to drive 30 miles to meet. not to shoot. but to further talk about ideas. look, get to it... let's fucking shoot.
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
D Alberto Photography wrote: [Oh oh, well, that explains a lot! I frequently ask if they'd like something to eat (because I'm always hungry, unfortunately for my pants waistline). I don't think I push it, though --- at least I hope not. My Pacific Islander background associates being a good "host" with throwing lots of food at the "guest". It's not my fault! AWWW. I'm just like that, three years apprenticeship in hospitality and catering made me the 'hostess with the mostest', it's just the way I was raised. It also makes me decline offers of food, simply because I don't want to impose my dietary restrictions on anyone who is kind enough to want to feed me. It's not that I don't like being fed (the Cat loves fooooooood - food loves me right back!), it's just that I'd rather not eat certain things and don't wanna be an ungrateful pain in anybody's ass. Edit: Chances are I have another shoot to go to, and when I eat certain things (that's anything except a handful of almonds and a date or five), I get this stupid baby belly, that I cannot suck in for love nor money.
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Faulty Focus wrote: I will start sharing these with my model friends, along with a glass of water. There is no such thing as sharing when it comes to chocolate.
Model
Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
James Ogilvie wrote: I know that models don't really like it when I grab some of their wardrobe and prance around the studio yelling "does this make me look fat???"
It would be perfectly ok if I could post the video of you "prancing" on YouTube LOL
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Kamarose wrote: Lizzy Borden wrote: i find it annoying when they push the boundaries of my comfort zone...especially when they 'argue' that i have certain pics in my port, so i should shoot such things with them as well "Argue" and "ask" are different things. Thanks, babe, I was biting my tongue there.
Photographer
James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Jessie Shannon wrote: It would be perfectly ok if I could post the video of you "prancing" on YouTube LOL Did I mention that I actually get INTO the clothes, or was that presumed?
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
James Ogilvie wrote: Did I mention that I actually get INTO the clothes, or was that presumed? EVIDENCE PLEASE
Photographer
James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Eurocat wrote: EVIDENCE PLEASE Just look at Jessie's avatar. That's actually me. MUA was awesome!
Model
Alex_Kay
Posts: 20
Tamuning, Guam, US
you ask to do a tf shoot, you email me 82829 times. we finally shoot, then you ignore my calls, texts, emails, ect. along with NeVER getting those images ..... or tAkes months to send any images at all, if ever.
Model
DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT
Posts: 1294
Čaġčarān, Ġawr, Afghanistan
Recieving emails from photographers enquiring about my shooting interest. Replying with my availabilities and an equal interest in their work. Never hearing from them again Edit: oh and i can't see what I look like, if the lighting, angles, expression etc isn't right then TELL ME!! Or better yet, just move my hand from here to there, as long as we get that shot!
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
kay_la wrote: you ask to do a tf shoot, you email me 82829 times. we finally shoot, then you ignore my calls, texts, emails, ect. along with NeVER getting those images ..... or tAkes months to send any images at all, if ever. So, if I send you 82828 more messages, we can shoot? And, you're so gorgeous I'd be working on your pictures by the time your car left the driveway.
Model
Rachel_Elizabeth_22
Posts: 388
Birmingham, England, United Kingdom
kay_la wrote: we finally shoot, then you ignore my calls, texts, emails, ect. along with NeVER getting those images ..... or tAkes months to send any images at all, if ever. I've had this, only after i receive them does he tell me he does no editing whatsoever and refuses for anyone else to touch them o_0
Model
Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
James Ogilvie wrote: Just look at Jessie's avatar. That's actually me. MUA was awesome! True story
Model
Cassie_Jade
Posts: 36
Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Kamarose wrote: Flake. Touch me without asking. Try to trick me into working for significantly longer than we agreed upon without paying anything additional. I'll work overtime if I have the time for it, but I expect to be paid for it, kay? Getting overly flirtatious. If you think I'm cute, I'm flattered. A few compliments or whatever is fine. But there is a limit to what is appropriate. Overly personal questions/comments. The fact that I am a nudie model is not an invitation for you to ask awkward questions about my sex life while we shoot (or during breaks). In general, I'm pretty easygoing and easy to work with, though. So long as you're polite to me, I love working with all sorts of eccentric artists. Most of the photographers and artists I work with are fabulous people. +1! This pretty much sums it up, oh and bitch about me on fb when you don’t get your own way
Model
Tristin Huntamer
Posts: 679
Denver, Colorado, US
Photographers that don't read my profile before approaching me to shoot. I am more than happy to elaborate if they ask me questions about negotiating rates or travel, but there is elaborating and then there is repeating entirely information that is out in the open. Also photographers that ask to shoot trade, but are clearly beginners and cannot offer photos on par or better than what you already have. I understand that money is tight, but I invested in my portfolio when I started out as should everyone else. Talking about their camera and lights like it equals magic. I've seen amazing images with $10 cameras and natural lighting. Expensive gear doesn't make a great image: skill and a good idea does.
Model
Naila Nude
Posts: 153
Los Angeles, California, US
I know with my generation I should have no complaints, but it grinds-my-gears when I give a photographer my number to call me and he/she text simply messages me. I like to have a verbal conversation before confirming a shoot.
Model
MannieCarlo
Posts: 2
Brooklyn, New York, US
I hate how they try to convince you that ugly images are 'gorgeous!' First off on a scale of 1-10 I know I'm a 7 and to call me gorgeous is basically spitting in my face with an apology. I'm upset mainly with my first photoshoot which is posted in my portfolio. I didn't realize how much I hated it until recently.
Model
Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Naila Nude wrote: I know with my generation I should have no complaints, but it grinds-my-gears when I give a photographer my number to call me and he/she text simply messages me. I like to have a verbal conversation before confirming a shoot. Don't I know it. They want all the stuff that 'he said she said' in 'writing', that's why the text, but then shit gets cryptic and it takes 100 messages, when a 2-minute phone call would have sufficed.
Photographer
James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
MannieCarlo wrote: I hate how they try to convince you that ugly images are 'gorgeous!' First off on a scale of 1-10 I know I'm a 7 and to call me gorgeous is basically spitting in my face with an apology. I'm upset mainly with my first photoshoot which is posted in my portfolio. I didn't realize how much I hated it until recently. Wow. Just...wow.
Photographer
PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1961
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Eurocat wrote: I totally get it, they may ask all they want, but just because there's some spread stuff in my port, doesn't mean I will bare my kitty for just anyone. Only the worthy will see my innermost. I have entered into a monestary to begin my cleansing rituals. I hope my 45 days of fasting and meditation will purify me before thee. (bows humbly and grovels at your feet)
Photographer
PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1961
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Photographer
David Levine Photo
Posts: 4
San Diego, California, US
MannieCarlo wrote: I hate how they try to convince you that ugly images are 'gorgeous!' First off on a scale of 1-10 I know I'm a 7 and to call me gorgeous is basically spitting in my face with an apology. I'm upset mainly with my first photoshoot which is posted in my portfolio. I didn't realize how much I hated it until recently. God daaaaamn you'd be hard to work with... Learn to take a complement. But if you demand aggressive honesty, then DEMAND it from the photographer. Literally tell him/her that you want utmost honesty from the get-go. Shoots are collaborative experiences, and whenever there is failure, it is a team's loss. It isn't 100% anybody's fault... If you aren't happy, chances are, the photographer isn't either. I make sure all models who work with me understand that I want to hear any of their feedback, positive or negative. It's not like we're out to get you, but sometimes things just don't work the way you had hoped...
Photographer
David Levine Photo
Posts: 4
San Diego, California, US
Eurocat wrote: Don't I know it. They want all the stuff that 'he said she said' in 'writing', that's why the text, but then shit gets cryptic and it takes 100 messages, when a 2-minute phone call would have sufficed. Haha, I completely agree with this. It's better to figure out most of or all of the shoots details in ONE sitting. I honestly can't imagine doing it through texts. My thumbs would abandon ship.
Model
aka Lo
Posts: 281
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
Art of the nude wrote: If you had a bad experience with a photographer, would you keep it secret because the person hearing about it might be their friend? I've shot with a photographer who made me very uncomfortable for several reasons, but only toed the line so to speak. Obviously, I'm not going to go around advising other models not to work with said person or talking badly about them. Maybe if asked out right I'd offer a bit of insight on why I'm not fond of that person, but never when the opinion wasn't solicited. BUT...that's a different story. When a model asks about a photographer its usually part of considering to work with them. Talking to a model about another model isn't really doing anyone a service unless s/he brought up wanting to work with that person.
Photographer
Photographe
Posts: 2351
Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Thread is interesting, much more cohesion and agreement between the models than the photographers. I haven't seen much complaint yet about togs flaking either. It's a pretty good guide for photographers how not to deal with models.
Photographer
PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1961
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Naila Nude wrote: I like to have a verbal conversation before confirming a shoot. From one who hates texting, I
Photographer
Tomi Hawk
Posts: 1649
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ãber Dami wrote: cute sarcasm there. what i was trying to say was when they dig too far personally. it's fine to ask what my style is about, questions about my piercings, things i do for fun etc. but asking if im seeing someone is a bit personal and asking where i work is personal, asking what i do for a living is better. Omy .. my sweet Uberness .. How else am I supposed to stalk you anyhow?
Model
liindsay ann
Posts: 1861
Cleveland, Ohio, US
When they want to go over their time they wanted me for.. I usually am pretty flexible and nice about it, but I end up getting taken advantage of.. (kind of my fault).. I also get a little annoyed when a photographer tries to tell me how I should be working, and what it's like to model, and how to pose, when they have a terrible port and little experience. Photographers that are terrible with communication on details of a shoot.
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