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Do You Give Your RAWs to the Model?
I have been doing Trade like crazy this past month to fill out some clothed stuff for my portfolio. And I have been getting a lot of requests for my RAWs (I do NOT give those out).. So.. this is more of a Poll really than anything because I'm just if there are photographers out there doing it (personally I don't care, as I'm not changing my policy) Just a curiosity poll is all  Jul 25 12 06:54 pm Link Wysiwyg Photography wrote: That's something usually worked out in advance of the shoot. Jul 25 12 06:57 pm Link RAW to a model is unedited photos. Tell them before the shoot what you will give them. I use to give all unedited proofs low rez on CD so they could pick what they like. Well started seeing them on the net so now they look on my web site. L2 Jul 25 12 06:58 pm Link No, what are they going to do with them? I never give RAW and I never give full res. Unless of course that's what the project is for. Jul 25 12 06:59 pm Link I agree with what was said before that most models mean "unedited" when they request "RAW". I do let them see unedited versions, but never give out RAW files. Jul 25 12 07:00 pm Link Mike Mango wrote: This. Jul 25 12 07:01 pm Link Never have, never will. Jul 25 12 07:01 pm Link As stated on my profile: Please respect the fact that I do not give out unedited images for TFCD. (if you pay me this, like all things, is of course negotiable) (I'm certainly not giving out RAW format files) If they aren't going to take the time to read my profile that is hardly my concern. Though I am usually pretty good at mentioning it if they ask. Jul 25 12 07:02 pm Link No, never give out your RAW files. I never do, and I have been requested too, as well as even insulted about my photography skills. Simply make an offer to do your TF, and if they are not interested in it. Move on to the next model. And I think this makes a billion threads about this issue..  Jul 25 12 07:04 pm Link Even if not technically accurate, I use RAW to mean the proprietary camera files and raw to mean the un-processed or un-retouched jpegs. I don't give out RAW. I will do or arrange to have the retouching done. I don't give out all the files except sometimes on low res proof sheets for selection purposes. Even those have been edited down for blinks and so forth. I do provide SOOC (Straight Out of Camera) raw jpegs as as the final file when that is all that is required on short notice jobs, but again, only after editing or making the selects. I have already typically set the style settings and balanced the lighting and exposure to produce clean files. Jul 25 12 07:04 pm Link I've yet to be asked by a model for the raw files. I would be reluctant to provide them without knowing why they wanted them. If I did provide them I would want to see their finished product. Jul 25 12 07:09 pm Link Usually no, but there have been a couple exceptions Jul 25 12 07:11 pm Link I don't provide the art director I work with my RAW images. I'm certainly much less likely to do so with models. That said, I'm willing to consider anything. For the right price, simply handing over all my RAW images and being done with it with no editing on my part is something I'd consider. I think it's much like any producer of anything deciding under what circumstances they will or will not sell an unfinished product. Some never would, some will. Jul 25 12 07:14 pm Link No raws unless compensated accordingly. Those are the negatives... Jul 25 12 07:18 pm Link No RAWs. unedited proofs, with a note (these look like shit compared to their edited counterparts, don't post them) with a watermark in a gallery to choose an edit or two if they're really cute and ask nicely. Jul 25 12 07:34 pm Link No Not a part of the deal ever, written into the agreement they are not included Jul 25 12 07:37 pm Link in exchange for monetary compensation -- not only RAWs, but all rights altogether. and my camera with the whole set of optics too . why not? Jul 25 12 07:40 pm Link Wysiwyg Photography wrote: Not a chance. In my case, I have a formal education in both film and digital photography, along with close to 20 years experience just on the digital end of things. My system is also calibrated, and most people's systems outside of the photographers world is not, including most model's. Also, the biggest reason that I'm eluding to is that the images do not just reflect on the model, but myself as well. I have a standing policy with the models that if they do not like the way a particular image turns out and they would like to use it, to have me do the corrections to it, nobody else. Jul 25 12 07:44 pm Link One day it would be interesting to send a model the actual .CR2 RAW. I wonder how long it would take before they realised they could do nothing with it  Jul 25 12 07:50 pm Link I've sold negatives, I've sold slides, I've sold digital raws. If the price is right and the client pays me enough, I will even sell them the camera. Obviously, what that price is -- depends on the circumstances and the client. GIVE RAWs away? No, I'm not in the business of photography to GIVE things to anyone. As for models specifically... I've met many who do retouching and/or are photographers and probably have far better retouching skills than many of the people who say they'd never consider giving out their RAW files. Personally, I don't like to stereotype about models or their level of photographic knowledge. Jul 25 12 07:51 pm Link SillyEddy wrote: Unless they are familiar with Lightroom.. and CS5 can still edit RAW files. Jul 25 12 08:32 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: Good points, I'd sell the boots on my feet if the price was right. Jul 25 12 08:36 pm Link Wysiwyg Photography wrote: I never gave negatives or slides to models when I shot film, so I'd never give RAW files to a model - not unless she was paying top dollar for them. Jul 25 12 08:36 pm Link SillyEddy wrote: Unless she is also a photographer with Photoshop and Lightroom experience (*ahem* cough*)! Jul 25 12 08:37 pm Link
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Reason: violates rules Comments: That isn't needed. Jul 25 12 08:41 pm Link NAWW no RAW Jul 25 12 08:45 pm Link No. Jul 25 12 08:56 pm Link Yes unconditionally Jul 25 12 09:02 pm Link Yes to agencies. (Some are required as per contract) No to clients. . Jul 25 12 09:09 pm Link I have surrendered all work under “work for hire” like contracts. This includes working for another photographer, producer or shooting copyrighted artworks. Otherwise, no. Jul 25 12 09:13 pm Link On occasion Jul 25 12 09:15 pm Link there are some people who, for their own sake, i will not give their raw unedited pictures to... jkJul 25 12 09:16 pm Link
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Reason: not helpful Comments: quoting hidden post Jul 25 12 09:18 pm Link Nope Jul 25 12 09:18 pm Link I'm in business to make money. Anything I can produce is for sale. Some things I produce don't sell well because they are expensive. All the images...that's expensive. RAW images...those are expensive. Hi-Res images...edited or not...aren't priced too badly...but if someone wants a lot of them...the costs add up to a significant amount usually. I used to say things like "I never give out ___________ or ________images". Now I don't say that anymore. Instead, I say, "OK, I'll play with my calculator and send you a price quote for that". Again, I'm in business to make money. For many, my prices for some things may seem unrealistic or expensive...that's OK...there's no obligation to buy anything not contracted for or agreed upon prior to the shoot. However, for the right price...I'll sell anything...because I'm in the business to make money...and I can't do that by saying "no". I can do that by creating products my clients are willing to buy. Jul 25 12 09:23 pm Link No. Never. Even for weddings, and they pay quite a bit. No. Jul 25 12 09:24 pm Link No. For me the RAW file is one of the ingredients (albeit a major one) that's goes into making the final shot. When I go to a restaurant I like the chef to cook my steak. I'd never ask for it - nor expect it - to be served raw. Jul 25 12 09:41 pm Link Raquel Rayne wrote: Exactly. Hopefully those models who know what they're doing would save time by not asking... Or word it in such a way that they show that they know what they're after. Jul 25 12 10:04 pm Link NO RAW. PERIOD. there's no reason why to give it. Hi Res jpeg is fine of Tiff. Jul 25 12 10:10 pm Link |
