Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY.
Photographer
R L P
Posts: 1971
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
probably not.
but if that's their passion, it poses no problem to others. agree?
Model
Lynn Elizabeth
Posts: 1336
Palm Beach, Florida, US
I'm sure you are not the only one but if it bothers you, just don't work with them. No one forces you to work with anyone you don't want to.
Photographer
DVP Photography
Posts: 2874
Broomfield, Colorado, US
Don't see an issue. Shoot with who you want to. Ignore the others. What's to get turned off about?
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Don't work with them. No need to create drama over this...
Photographer
Karl Blessing
Posts: 30911
Caledonia, Michigan, US
Yes cuz people who specialize in a specific type of photography or subject nature are probably just scum anyways...
Photographer
Karl Blessing
Posts: 30911
Caledonia, Michigan, US
DVP Photography wrote:
Don't see an issue. Shoot with who you want to. Ignore the others. What's to get turned off about? I can only see it being an issue if said "photographer(s)" were harassing her for not shooting nude.
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 8908
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. I'm going to assume the photographers who only shoot nudes don't care what you think 
Just my thoughts ~ MR
Model
Isis22
Posts: 3557
Muncie, Indiana, US
Photographer
JAE
Posts: 2207
West Chester, Pennsylvania, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. If they shoot nudes only and you don't shoot nudes at all I don't think it matters if you get turned off.
Maybe I am missing something but I don't understand this thread 
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. Am I the only photographer who gets turned off by models who won't shoot nudes?
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. Is this in general, or do they want to shoot only nudes WITH YOU?
I shoot nudes, and that's all I have in this port, but I do a variety of other things when the models let me. Like fully clothed, and partly clothed, concepts. Sometimes the models refuse to not be nude though.
Photographer
BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Images by MR wrote:
I'm going to assume the photographers who only shoot nudes don't care what you think DING! DING! DING!
Photographer
BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
Am I the only photographer who gets turned off by models who won't shoot nudes? Nope
Model
Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 8283
Tucson, Arizona, US
Are you the only one? Probably not. Just like there's not only one person who discriminates against others for all sorts of stuff.
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 11271
Seattle, Washington, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. Ok, let me guess? You want to shoot with certain photographers. But they say they only shoot you if you do nude. And you get totally turned off because of that?
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
I think nudes can be very artistic depending on the context. And when i become established i plan on doing some. So let me be specific, it's when a photographer claims to shoot many genres but his or her portfolio contains strictly nudes. Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me. But I am only sharing my thoughts and oppinions. We are all adults here, there is no reason to get defensive.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
Chuckarelei wrote:
Ok, let me guess? You want to shoot with certain photographers. But they say they only shoot you if you do nude. And you get totally turned off because of that? Yes.
Photographer
Benjamen McGuire
Posts: 3991
Portland, Oregon, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me. Then why does it matter if it's nudes? What if he/she only shot babies?
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
C s p i n e wrote:
Then why does it matter if it's nudes? What if he/she only shot babies? Then that would have nothing to do with me because the photographer wouldn't see a need to include me in his "babies only" projects.
Photographer
BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Then that would have nothing to do with me because the photographer wouldn't see a need to include me in his "babies only" projects. You're avoiding the question about diversity. What if he only shot red bikinis? Or purple sun dresses? Or models with masks? Would that bother you as well?
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Erika Muse wrote:
Then that would have nothing to do with me because the photographer wouldn't see a need to include me in his "babies only" projects. If a photographer only shoots nudes and you don't do them, why would they see a need to include you in "nudes only" projects if you don't do them?
My opinion: if you plan to do nudes at some point in your career, what does waiting accomplish besides allowing your body to get older? If you are going to do them, do them now. If you aren't, what's the problem with people who do?
I don't get upset when a model only wants to do goth or gory scenes. When they ask me, I tell them this is something I've got zero interest in and the chances are good someone else will deliver a much higher quality image because it's what they're into. If they still want me to shoot them, I don't want to hear any complaints later. Most take it as a hint that I don't want to shoot with them in that genre, though.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
BTHPhoto wrote:
You're avoiding the question about diversity. What if he only shot red bikinis? Or purple sun dresses? Or models with masks? Would that bother you as well? If a photographer shoots only one genre then he or she should state that. Not claim many and only specify in ONE. This is what bothers me. Especially when said photographer wants to include me in his projects.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
Erika Muse wrote:
Then that would have nothing to do with me because the photographer wouldn't see a need to include me in his "babies only" projects. If a photographer only shoots nudes and you don't do them, why would they see a need to include you in "nudes only" projects if you don't do them?
Exactly ! Lol. My profile clearly states what i like and what i dont like. What i will and will not do. And my port is a reflection of those things. I am still being harassed to do nudes.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
If a photographer only shoots nudes and you don't do them, why would they see a need to include you in "nudes only" projects if you don't do them?
My opinion: if you plan to do nudes at some point in your career, what does waiting accomplish besides allowing your body to get older? If you are going to do them, do them now. If you aren't, what's the problem with people who do?
I don't get upset when a model only wants to do goth or gory scenes. When they ask me, I tell them this is something I've got zero interest in and the chances are good someone else will deliver a much higher quality image because it's what they're into. If they still want me to shoot them, I don't want to hear any complaints later. Most take it as a hint that I don't want to shoot with them in that genre, though. I messed up when i tried to reply to your quote. But yes, you are right. I shouldnt be contacted for nudes when i've clearly stated i dont do them, but photographers continue to ask and persuade me to.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
If a photographer shoots only one genre then he or she should state that. Not claim many and only specify in ONE. This is what bothers me. Especially when said photographer wants to include me in his projects. All you have to say is two simple words.
1) No.
2) Thanks.
Photographer
Eridu
Posts: 623
Boston, Massachusetts, US
P I X I E wrote:
All you have to say is two simple words.
1) No.
2) Thanks. Somebody call a Waaaaaambulance!
Photographer
BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Erika Muse wrote:
But yes, you are right. I shouldnt be contacted for nudes when i've clearly stated i dont do them, but photographers continue to ask and persuade me to. Sorry, this is not correct. As long as a large percentage of models on MM state that they don't do nudes, but actually do, then it is not wrong to ask a model who states "no nudes" whether they're interested in nude work. Asking repeatedly, or not taking no for an answer is wrong, but as long as "no" means "maybe" much of the time, asking is not.
P I X I E wrote:
All you have to say is two simple words.
1) No.
2) Thanks. Simple as that.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Autonomy II wrote:
Somebody call a Waaaaaambulance! Seriously. Some people are just trying to start drama for the smallest things.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
P I X I E wrote:
Seriously. Some people are just trying to start drama for the smallest things. Starting drama is what you are accusing me of?
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
Starting drama is what you are accusing me of? Freaking out and getting all bent out of shape because photographers ask you if you shoot nudes, AND start a thread about it? Yeah, that's being dramatic.
Photographer
Jay Leavitt
Posts: 6745
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
BTHPhoto wrote:
Sorry, this is not correct. As long as a large percentage of models on MM state that they don't do nudes, but actually do, then it is not wrong to ask a model who states "no nudes" whether they're interested in nude work. Asking repeatedly, or not taking no for an answer is wrong, but as long as "no" means "maybe" much of the time, asking is not. +1
90% or more of my nude work is from models who "Don't shoot nudes" - If I feel your look works for the project, I'll contact ya. You're free to turn it down.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
4 years ago when I started out, I had photographers ask me if I shot nudes. I politely turned them down.
FTR I started shooting nudes about 6 months after I started modeling.
Photographer
Rich Burroughs
Posts: 3259
Portland, Oregon, US
Erika Muse wrote:
I think nudes can be very artistic depending on the context. And when i become established i plan on doing some. So let me be specific, it's when a photographer claims to shoot many genres but his or her portfolio contains strictly nudes. Its the lack of diversity that is a turn off to me. But I am only sharing my thoughts and oppinions. We are all adults here, there is no reason to get defensive. Why does someone need to do diverse work?
It's their work. They're going to do what their passion is. You don't have to participate in it if you don't want to.
And I'm not sure what you mean by them "claiming" to shoot many genres. Are you taking about the list of genres on their profile? Sometimes those aren't accurate, like many things on profiles. I view that more as things someone is willing to do. Like I would do them if someone paid me to. Not necessarily the same thing as what someone chooses to do for their own personal work.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
BTHPhoto wrote:
Erika Muse wrote:
But yes, you are right. I shouldnt be contacted for nudes when i've clearly stated i dont do them, but photographers continue to ask and persuade me to. Sorry, this is not correct. As long as a large percentage of models on MM state that they don't do nudes, but actually do, then it is not wrong to ask a model who states "no nudes" whether they're interested in nude work. Asking repeatedly, or not taking no for an answer is wrong, but as long as "no" means "maybe" much of the time, asking is not.
Simple as that. "Asking repeatedly, or not taking no for an answer is wrong" yes...yes it is
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
"Asking repeatedly, or not taking no for an answer is wrong" yes...yes it is There's this nice little feature called "Blocking". I suggest you use it when you encounter one of these people.
Photographer
Rich Burroughs
Posts: 3259
Portland, Oregon, US
Erika Muse wrote:
I messed up when i tried to reply to your quote. But yes, you are right. I shouldnt be contacted for nudes when i've clearly stated i dont do them, but photographers continue to ask and persuade me to. You have to keep in mind that some models say No to nudes in their profile, but will do them selectively. They say no to hopefully ward off at least some of the GWCs, but they will do them with photographers they like. Once you learn this as a photographer, then it makes sense to ask even if someone says no in their profile.
All you have to do is say no if you're asked. That's it. If they harass you about it, block them.
Or your other option is to convince every other model on the site to only do what their profile says. And then we can stop asking.
Model
Mz Muse
Posts: 287
Los Angeles, California, US
P I X I E wrote:
Freaking out and getting all bent out of shape because photographers ask you if you shoot nudes, AND start a thread about it? Yeah, that's being dramatic. Its the REPEATED asking by the same photographers and the constant persuading that led me to ask a simple question in search for others oppinions. There is nothing to say, "freak out" about. Lol
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
Its the REPEATED asking by the same photographers and the constant persuading that led me to ask a simple question in search for others oppinions. There is nothing to say, "freak out" about. Lol I covered that in my previous post. Block and move on. These people won't really go away.
Photographer
Hikari Tech Photography
Posts: 791
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Erika Muse wrote:
Am i the only model that gets turned off by photographers that shoot nudes ONLY. I'm sure there are nudists that get turned off by those photographers that only shoot clothed people.
If nudes are not your bag then no worries. Some don't shoot models with tats or metal in their face. Others only shoot inked and metal clad bodies. To each their own.
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