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Shouldn't a good MM Port include a few male models
I'm kinda' new around here and my initial impression is that most MM photographers have only female models in their ports.... Not ALL but,most... I would agree that when a person mentions the word "model", 97% of people immediately think "female". But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds balance and could be beneficial? EDIT:Apologies...seems my use of the word "good" was mis-construed by some...It was never my intention to suggest that a port couldn't be Pro level quality and/or artistic w/o pix of male models... Feb 23 13 09:13 am Link If "most" photographers are into glamour... and prefer girls doing the "come hither" look instead of guys... don't see a problem. Feb 23 13 09:16 am Link No. Because I have no interest in shooting male models. My regular portfolio contains some male portraits, as part of my commercial work involves corporate headshots and portraits, but that's not what I use MM for... Feb 23 13 09:19 am Link Jay Strange wrote: I have lots of Males sprinkled with Females... Feb 23 13 09:22 am Link Photographers generally shoot what they find sexually appealing, or what there's a market for financially. Feb 23 13 09:23 am Link Actually I have been thinking about adding some male models and MF couples, but haven't had a lot of success. I prefer doing Figure/Glamour type work, finding female models in my small town area is difficult, male models seem next to impossible. I have found 2 MM models that happen to be a couple in real life and recently did a shoot with them that turned out great! Hopefully it is the start of something that will work well in the future. Time will tell!! Feb 23 13 09:33 am Link Jay Strange wrote: sounds like you're wanting to dictate your definitions to the crowd ... but you're new here & probably don't know the folks yet; "should" rarely goes very far with this bunch, esp. for something as subjective as "good". Feb 23 13 09:37 am Link I've tried having male llamas in my port in the past, and was SHOCKED by the comments the images received. Sadly, many of the people that commented had little more than nude male images in their port. After 3 attempts, i gave up on posting males in my port to avoid the shocking comments ~~ m' Feb 23 13 09:47 am Link Vector 38 wrote: Well said. Feb 23 13 09:48 am Link Jay Strange wrote: ummmmm, not necessarily Feb 23 13 09:58 am Link I had more, deleted them. Nothing against shooting males, but it's not what drives me. To each his own. Feb 23 13 10:01 am Link Why should you're port include anything you don't want it to, surely your already losing if your trying to cater to everyone's needs! Feb 23 13 10:01 am Link RKD Photographic wrote: A M U L wrote: That about sums it up. Feb 23 13 10:06 am Link Terrell Gates wrote: That's an old top-shelf fantasy of mine... just sayin'... Feb 23 13 10:23 am Link Maybe, but I shoot far fewer male models so they are far less likely to be in my portfolio. If I had a 100 picture slots I might include a photo of a male model, but with 30 available slots males would be over represented with even one image. If your clients are all ford buyers, why would you advertise chevys. Feb 23 13 10:25 am Link Jay Strange wrote: most clients don't care if i have male models in my portfolio. In the world of fashion they are usually seen as second class citizens (if you don't believe me check out the difference in an agency day rate for a male vs a female model.) Look through my port, which images have the lowest views and comments? Male images and editorial images. Feb 23 13 10:29 am Link Not challenging anyones skills or specific interests... Just trying to make a case for "variety". Feb 23 13 10:34 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica I ate at an Italian restaurant the other night. By God if the entire menu wasn't full of Italian food choices. My thought was NOT, "Why don't they make Chicken Chow Mein; that's a popular dish?" Feb 23 13 10:38 am Link ^^ I was wondering the same thing too! Feb 23 13 10:41 am Link You put in your book what you shoot and want to shoot.. Most on here want to shoot pretty girls, not guys. The ones who want to shoot both, have both. The ones who shoot only men have only men.. Feb 23 13 11:19 am Link When you walk into "Luigi's" there is an automatic understanding that they don't have sushi or fried catfish on the menu. When someone is looking at your port for the first time,that same automatic understanding isn't there...I think. I'll accept $150-$200 from anyone who needs a port update...male OR female. Feb 23 13 11:29 am Link KonstantKarma wrote: Hmm.. wonder if that means I have a secret part of my psychological makeup that I'm ignoring. Feb 23 13 11:49 am Link
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica Jay Strange wrote: I haven't looked at your imagery so this isn't a critique, but what if you don't shoot males particularly well? Are you going to take their money and give them so-so pics? Feb 23 13 11:52 am Link Chouseki Lab wrote: If I'm shooting males, I prefer to shoot what I'm turned on by - Thinner types, especially androgynous, not the muscle types. And I have no problem asking them out for dinner later. Feb 23 13 11:53 am Link It's MM. You should post what you are interested in shooting. Feb 23 13 11:54 am Link Shouldn't a good MM Port include a few male models? Sure, I guess, if you want to be a generic, one-size-fits-all, "well rounded", will take any job, politically correct, "versatile", appealing to the largest common denominator type of photographer. Feb 23 13 11:58 am Link Jay Strange wrote: I don't think it adds balance but it may add diversity. But that's assuming someone is interested in diversity. Many photographers aren't and prefer to concentrate on a specific niche rather than the Jack of all trades...master of none philosophy. Feb 23 13 11:59 am Link Jay Strange wrote: I'm not asking for a critique, but take a look at my portfolio. I'm known to have diversity, and variety! You'll always find at least one or two males in my portfolio, but out of all the images I have, they attract the least amount of attention. Star is correct! Check with any agency, and you'll see that male models are "second class citizens" in the modeling World. It happens to be one of the very few jobs where females are paid far more for their attractiveness and skills. Feb 23 13 12:20 pm Link If I could find on this site more male models who cared about their craft & the artform than they do about showcasing the size of their penis, I'd probably be open to shooting more male models than I do. Feb 23 13 12:27 pm Link Jay Strange wrote: I think every photographer should obviously shoot nudes, to add balance. But, I respect that some choose not to. Same with males, females, and most any other category of model or style. Feb 23 13 12:30 pm Link Jay Strange wrote: I'll accept money from anyone who needs a port update. But odds are, I won't be using those images in mine. Feb 23 13 12:32 pm Link I DON'T consider my work "Art"...and I freely admit that in my profile. I'm a bit of a "whore" I guess...people need photos...I take their $$...and I give them photos... My mentality and style ARE commercial...not very arty I'm afraid. Feb 23 13 01:38 pm Link Maybe change the word "good" in the title to "well-rounded". Feb 23 13 01:42 pm Link I am glad I only shoot females. lol Feb 23 13 01:44 pm Link Jay Strange wrote: If you want to have a photo that is never looked at. I used to put them up. But no one looked at them. Feb 23 13 01:45 pm Link Why ? First of all - what is a "good MM port" ? You don't really earn anything by impressing the audience of MM..... Second - if you do not have a need or desire to shoot male models, whether personally, or because of your genre or market, why should you go out of your way to do so, to please whom again? (you could say the same thing about shooting any genre or content that does not either interest or pay you.....) Third - in my market all of the male models I've seen are beefcake posers. Not terribly useful in editorial fashion.... If I found some elegant male models of editorial agency proportion, with angular, androgynous looks I would have use for them.... but this is at best a secondary market.... Feb 23 13 01:50 pm Link Jay Strange wrote: That is so cool! Feb 23 13 01:50 pm Link l like shooting guys just as much as gals, but there's a lot less of them here and I've found the ones that I want to shoot are not really interested in the commercial/lifestyle styles I shoot anyway, so the mix in my portfolio just represents the ratio of girls to guys here that actually want to shoot tfp with me! Feb 23 13 01:53 pm Link Jay Strange wrote: No. Your port should reflect what you've shot and what you want to shoot. Feb 23 13 01:54 pm Link So it really depends on what the photographer is trying to accomplish. I shoot clothes, shoes, accessories, beauty products and the like. All featured in my portfolio, who is wearing them is not the focus. Feb 23 13 01:56 pm Link |
