Mike Kelcher wrote:
I like this idea.

Ditto

DaveDavis wrote:
Speaking of questions

Is it possible for the DAOTD contest to go back to this award banner?

Whatever badge or banner you use I would hope that the text would be readable.

Camerosity wrote:
Me too. I think this is a great idea. I’m not gonna tell you how many forum threads I’m subscribed to, but it’s way too many to use my list of forum subscriptions to find the contests every day.

Give it a fixed location where it’s quick and easy to find every day.

If you wish, (until the MOD/Admins make their decision) you can use either 'Fashion PotD' or 'Glamour PotD' as a reference page for a list of all the other contests. I've added a shortcut to the list (which I always keep updated) on the first page of my contests which makes it easier to navigate from one contest to another. What I do is that I keep the Fashion or Glamour contest first page open and click open a new tab for each contest I want to enter/vote. I find it much easier thanlooking through each thread in the forum. If you take a look here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st18584781 and click on 'Other Contests' which will lead you to a list of all the daily contests. I still need to update a list for the weekly and monthly contests..

Hope it can be of help (for now anyway). It would also help (I think), if other contests Hosts were willing to do the same and put the list in their contests too.

Marlene

DaveDavis wrote:
Is it possible to have these to DAOTD banners added to the MM servers




Thx
Dave

Added to servers
please use this link to take you to the thread for banners

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st18788994

Marlene Potfer wrote:
DAILY CONTESTS
           

Its plain and easy to look at. Just click on the contest you want to enter, simple. The same would apply for the weekly and monthly contests so there would be 3 categories (daily-weekly-monthly) so it would look more organised as well.Then a MOD can name this thread (for example) 'Enter Contests and Vote Here' and pin it to the main board of the forum-based contests. It would also help to have the codes of those linked-badges posted in the main contest page of the site as it will attract more viewers to the forum-based contests. Note that the link to the daily thread contests will go to the main contest page so the viewers still would have to look through each threads to look for the contest. Hosts of the daily thread contests could keep it this way or decide to only use one thread which would be linked to their badge.

+1000! This has continuity and is VERY easy to understand, a stump could figure this out.
IMHO
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Marlene Potfer wrote:
Ok, how about this.. Take away the 'Forum-Based Contests - Host List' from the board (it will show why below) and have something like this:




-'Contest Forum Rules'  -  Updated version: standardize the rules (start/finish and submitting/voting times) etc..

-'Daily Contests' - Based on JoJo's suggestion in this thread, we could have something like this:

DAILY CONTESTS - ENTER & VOTE HERE

Picture of the Day (Original Edition)

HOSTS: Albertex Photography - SJH photography

B&W Photo of the Day

HOSTS: Dark1 Photography - Foto Door Photography - SJH photography

Headshot of the Day

HOST: SMASHphotos

Concept Shot of the Day

HOST: Blue Ash Film Group - Timillia

Photographer of the Day

HOSTS: Albertex Photography - SJH photography

Model of the Day

HOSTS: SJH photography - Albertex Photography - Tara Jayne Mullins

Fashion Photo of the Day

HOSTS: Marlene Potfer - SJH photography

Glamour Photo of the Day

HOSTS: Marlene Potfer - SJH photography

Dark Image of the Day

HOST: Erin Koski

Animal Picture of the Day

HOST: Peter Schroeder

Retoucher Of The Day

HOST: Patreshas Editing

Digital Artist of the Day

HOST: DaveDavis

Artistic Shot of the Day

HOST: Patreshas Editing

1- In regards to which order the contests are showing up, I honestly don't care. We could have them starting from the older one to the newest one as suggested by Stevie or we could just keep it the way it is, either way it doesn't bother me.. or if someone can think of another option, please share your thoughts.

2- For the contests that are posting a new thread daily, how about:
Start a new thread named (for example): 'Reserved for Daily Thread Contests Hosts'. Each Host would make one post for their contest, and each day they will just have to edit their post and copy the link to their new thread. Each of these post would be linked to their respective contest in the 'Daily Contests' thread. It would not require a lot of work from the Host, it would be simply copying and pasting a link. I'm not sure if I've explained myself very well so here's an example:

Erin, Host of Dark Image of the Day post in the 'Reserved for Daily Thread Contests Hosts' thread:

And the link to this post (since its always the same post that will be edited) will be linked to the 'Dark Image of the Day' showing on the list in the 'Daily Contests' thread, with the other contests.

-'Weekly Contests' and 'Monthly Contests' threads will be in the same format as above.

-'PotD and PotD18+ winners badges' stay the same.

-'Ask Questions Here'. It would be easier to have this thread here.

-It would also be useful to pin the 'PotD18+ Discussion Thread'.


Please let me know your thoughts and/or suggestions..

Marlene

This one is even better!
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Marlene Potfer wrote:
Hello everyone! I've recently taken over MM Photographer of the Month & MM Model of the Month and I would like to make some changes to these 2 contests however, first I would like to hear your thoughts.

As most of you may already know, these contests were created by SJH photography in June 2013. No entries are allowed in these contests as they only use all of the winning images of MM Photographer of the Day & MM Model of the Day. Members are then voting for their favorite photographers/models from all of their winning images for the month, and the person receiving the greatest number of votes from their images becomes Photographer/Model of the Month.

When Stevie created these contests the contest-forum was much 'quieter'. Since then, we've had amazing new contests launched by other members such as MM's Image of the Week. The 'Image of the Week' contest uses all of the winning pictures of most daily contests including 'Photographer of the Day' & 'Model of the Day'. So I got thinking and realised that the same winning images were used in many different contests. For example, a winning image in 'Photographer of the Day', will automatically get used in 'Image of the Week' and then again in 'Photograher of the Month'. Another point, is that later in the year, I am bringing back 'Photographer of the Year' & 'Model of the Year' where the 12 monthly winners will be the finalists (so the same images will be used... again!)

So my suggestion is.. how about accepting entries for 'Photographer & Model of the Month' instead of using the winning images from the daily contests? At the start of each month, each photographer and each model can enter a minimum of 2 images and a maximum of 5 images (for example) and at the end of each month, all images belonging to an individual will be grouped together and posted as an entry. Members will then vote for their favorite model/photographer. I believe this new system for these 2 monthly contests could work really well, we would have different images used instead of repetitively using the same ones over and over again, and it would give a greater chance for everyone to win the monthly or yearly title (not just the winners from the daily contests who are already entered again in the 'Image of the Week' contest). So everyone would be able to enter and win.

I think this would be beneficial to everyone but I just wanted to ask you all before making any changes! So what's you thoughts on this? I welcome all suggestions, I also welcome criticisms but please try to make it constructive.

Its a great idea.

John Carrasco wrote:
Its a great idea.

I'm glad you like the idea John, hopefully everyone else will be as positive as you are..

Marlene Potfer wrote:
Hello everyone! I've recently taken over MM Photographer of the Month & MM Model of the Month and I would like to make some changes to these 2 contests however, first I would like to hear your thoughts.

As most of you may already know, these contests were created by SJH photography in June 2013. No entries are allowed in these contests as they only use all of the winning images of MM Photographer of the Day & MM Model of the Day. Members are then voting for their favorite photographers/models from all of their winning images for the month, and the person receiving the greatest number of votes from their images becomes Photographer/Model of the Month.

When Stevie created these contests the contest-forum was much 'quieter'. Since then, we've had amazing new contests launched by other members such as MM's Image of the Week. The 'Image of the Week' contest uses all of the winning pictures of most daily contests including 'Photographer of the Day' & 'Model of the Day'. So I got thinking and realised that the same winning images were used in many different contests. For example, a winning image in 'Photographer of the Day', will automatically get used in 'Image of the Week' and then again in 'Photograher of the Month'. Another point, is that later in the year, I am bringing back 'Photographer of the Year' & 'Model of the Year' where the 12 monthly winners will be the finalists (so the same images will be used... again!)

So my suggestion is.. how about accepting entries for 'Photographer & Model of the Month' instead of using the winning images from the daily contests? At the start of each month, each photographer and each model can enter a minimum of 2 images and a maximum of 5 images (for example) and at the end of each month, all images belonging to an individual will be grouped together and posted as an entry. Members will then vote for their favorite model/photographer. I believe this new system for these 2 monthly contests could work really well, we would have different images used instead of repetitively using the same ones over and over again, and it would give a greater chance for everyone to win the monthly or yearly title (not just the winners from the daily contests who are already entered again in the 'Image of the Week' contest). So everyone would be able to enter and win.

I think this would be beneficial to everyone but I just wanted to ask you all before making any changes! So what's you thoughts on this? I welcome all suggestions, I also welcome criticisms but please try to make it constructive.

This certainly would provide a streamlined path to Photographer/Model of the Year. It would be possible for someone with 2-5 strong images to win two contests with those images and be the Photographer/Model of the Year.

I suppose that it's theoretically possible now for someone to win three contests with one image and win Photographer/Model of the Year. But the current system favors people with multiple winning images, and thus a larger amount of a photographer or model's body of work comes into play.

Neither of these is a very good analogy. But it strike me as being similar to allowing someone to enter the Miss America Pageant without having first competed at the state and local levels (and being able to become eligible for Miss Universe with just one pageant win.

Or allowing a baseball team to enter the league championship series (and advance to the World Series) without having earned a place in the league series over the course of a full season.

Mike Kelcher had eight daily winners the month he won Photographer of the Month, and I had seven the month I won. By the same token, there have been 1-2 months when one of my photos got more votes than any other photo, but someone who had more daily winners won the monthly contest.

All things considered, I think the approach that gives someone with multiple daily winners an advantage is more fair.

I haven't had time to think this through yet, but at this point I think I'd favor allowing entries in the weekly contest and making that a free-standing contest that's not related to the others.

Marlene Potfer wrote:
Hello everyone! I've recently taken over MM Photographer of the Month & MM Model of the Month and I would like to make some changes to these 2 contests however, first I would like to hear your thoughts.

As most of you may already know, these contests were created by SJH photography in June 2013. No entries are allowed in these contests as they only use all of the winning images of MM Photographer of the Day & MM Model of the Day. Members are then voting for their favorite photographers/models from all of their winning images for the month, and the person receiving the greatest number of votes from their images becomes Photographer/Model of the Month.

When Stevie created these contests the contest-forum was much 'quieter'. Since then, we've had amazing new contests launched by other members such as MM's Image of the Week. The 'Image of the Week' contest uses all of the winning pictures of most daily contests including 'Photographer of the Day' & 'Model of the Day'. So I got thinking and realised that the same winning images were used in many different contests. For example, a winning image in 'Photographer of the Day', will automatically get used in 'Image of the Week' and then again in 'Photograher of the Month'. Another point, is that later in the year, I am bringing back 'Photographer of the Year' & 'Model of the Year' where the 12 monthly winners will be the finalists (so the same images will be used... again!)

So my suggestion is.. how about accepting entries for 'Photographer & Model of the Month' instead of using the winning images from the daily contests? At the start of each month, each photographer and each model can enter a minimum of 2 images and a maximum of 5 images (for example) and at the end of each month, all images belonging to an individual will be grouped together and posted as an entry. Members will then vote for their favorite model/photographer. I believe this new system for these 2 monthly contests could work really well, we would have different images used instead of repetitively using the same ones over and over again, and it would give a greater chance for everyone to win the monthly or yearly title (not just the winners from the daily contests who are already entered again in the 'Image of the Week' contest). So everyone would be able to enter and win.

I think this would be beneficial to everyone but I just wanted to ask you all before making any changes! So what's you thoughts on this? I welcome all suggestions, I also welcome criticisms but please try to make it constructive.

I like the idea myself. It gives everyone more of a chance to participate and might build some more interest in the monthly contests in general.

Bob Hoffman Photography wrote:
First of all, thanks Marlene for working to improve the contest!  I do think there is a lot of repetitive use of images in the contests in general so taking steps to reduce that is a good thing.  I agree with John, I like the new plan.  One additional consideration might be to somehow limit the resubmission of the same photographs in the next months competition.  Perhaps once a photo is submitted, it shouldn't be able to be used again for 3 or 6 months?  Just a thought.

Great point Bob and I duly noted. I think 3 months would be the right time to re-submit an image.

Camerosity wrote:
All things considered, I think the approach that gives someone with multiple daily winners an advantage is more fair.
I haven't had time to think this through yet, but at this point I think I'd favor allowing entries in the weekly contest and making that a free-standing contest that's not related to the others.

I totally understand what you're saying Dave. However, the point of having the 'new rules' for the monthly contests, is to give Photographers & Models who don't enter the daily contests, a chance as well. For example, there's only about 5 regular participants who enters MOTD. Therefore, the same models always win (due to the lack of entries), so as a result there's no many different models posted in MOTM. This may result in having always the same models through the whole year to have a chance to be either the monthly or yearly winner which makes it not much of a competition. My approach for the new system for the monthly contests, is to give everyone an equal chance

Stunnaful Photography wrote:
So it's a great idea but perhaps develop a method that can remind models and photographers to submit a new image(s) for the contest.

That's not a problem, I don't mind sending the monthly reminder myself... after all, that's what a Host is for!

DaveDavis wrote:
I like the idea myself. It gives everyone more of a chance to participate and might build some more interest in the monthly contests in general.

That's exactly what I'm hoping for Dave!

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, was there not a time when the "OF THE MONTH" contests did NOT require a winning image or images to FIRST have to win one of the daily Photog of the Day or Model of the Day Contests to be eligible for submission into the "OF THE MONTH" **FORUM** contests?
I'm probably totally wrong, but when I first started in these contests almost a year ago, I "THOUGHT" I recall that there were many images submitted into the Forum OTM contests from both photographers and models who rarely or perhaps NEVER competed in the daily forum contests.

I think you're talking about the Model/Photographer of the Week contests, which have both been closed last year.

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
Since this is most certainly about having the very best image winning, do not be surprised if "photographers and models" come out of the woodwork with their entries just for the Forum OTM contests.

Well.. that would be ideal!

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
This would mean that there would be a lot of cross over entries from both the regular "CONTEST" Photo of the Day and the 18+ OTD contests. That said, if we are truly sincere to have the VERY BEST images winning, then should this idea not also be promoted to those photographers and models that compete in those other contests outside of the Forum contests? (Open entry)

No, it would just be like entering any daily contests (forum based), but instead of submitting one image, you would be posting between 2 and 5 (for example), and towards the end of the month, the contest would close for submission. A banner will then be created, with images from an individual put together along with their name and a vote number, and then the voting would start (something similar Fashion/Glamour of the week).

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
So when you say "members", I can only assume that you indeed mean ALL members and their best works of art!

Yes, that's right. It would be nice to attract more members ''and their best works of art!''

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
On any given day you will find anywhere between maybe 70 to 125ish images submitted of BOTH male and female models in the regular daily contests. (Other images thrown in from time to time as well) Soooooo, with an "open entry" type of OF THE MONTH "Forum Contest" policy, the flood gates should indeed open with new participants from all over the Mayhem. This is good though right, or did I totally miss something in the new proposal? (Knowing me...I did!)

You got that absolutely right James! lol but I really don't think it will get as busy as you think!! For some reason, many members do not visit the contest-forum But if it does then great! More competition means a more valuable 'win'

This Magic Moment wrote:
Sounds Good To Me, I am good to go, Every since I started entering in the contest's I have gotten better. Next Goal Photographer Of The Month. Lets make it magical. Good Luck everyone and have a good day.

Lets make it magical!

Stunnaful Photography  wrote:
It's a good idea in the sense of models and photographers having a better chance of winning. When you repost a high winning image from a previous contest it has the in tendency to grab the same amount of votes if not even higher then last time. So with new images being uploaded will give other models and photographers a better chance of winning.

The only problem will be that most models and photographers might forget to submit a new image because of the length and time of the contest. To be honest I forgot about my image being selected for Photographer of the Month until you message me yesterday. Haha! So it's a great idea but perhaps develop a method that can remind models and photographers to submit a new image(s) for the contest.

Craig Spratt
www.stunnaful-photography.com

I want to start thank you all the moderator of these contest, that bring talent, opportunities and a lot of exposure for us. What Craig said, happened to me. I didn't realize that I was the winner of a contest. I guess happened because I didn't the submission (but I am glad).

I like the current system, the winners of the daily contest goes to compete for a monthly contest, and from there to a yearly contest. For me, is a push to work hard everyday to submit a quality material.

Best regards,
Jose Musse
http://www.josemusse.com

Carmine Warren wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We are going in the right direction with this, and everyone brings up some good points. I do feel we need to determine a number of entries and should not leave it to a random number between 2-5. I would recommend 3 images.

Once an image wins, it could not be used again and any image not winning would need to wait 30 days before resubmitting the image. I would also make it mandatory to vote if you have entered into the contest.

Carmine

Agreed

Carmine Warren wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We are going in the right direction with this, and everyone brings up some good points. I do feel we need to determine a number of entries and should not leave it to a random number between 2-5. I would recommend 3 images.

Once an image wins, it could not be used again and any image not winning would need to wait 30 days before resubmitting the image. I would also make it mandatory to vote if you have entered into the contest.

Carmine

John Carrasco wrote:
Agreed

I agree with John also.

Carmine Warren wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We are going in the right direction with this, and everyone brings up some good points. I do feel we need to determine a number of entries and should not leave it to a random number between 2-5. I would recommend 3 images.

Once an image wins, it could not be used again and any image not winning would need to wait 30 days before resubmitting the image. I would also make it mandatory to vote if you have entered into the contest.

Carmine

agreed

Tara Jayne Mullins wrote:

agreed

Dito!

jmusse wrote:
I like the current system, the winners of the daily contest goes to compete for a monthly contest, and from there to a yearly contest. For me, is a push to work hard everyday to submit a quality material.

Thank you for your thoughts Jose. The new proposed system is to give opportunity for more models & photographers to have a chance of being Model or Photographer of the Month. While there is amazing talent entering the daily contests, there's also a lot more out there who don't participate in the daily contests and deserve credit for their amazing work. There are still contests such as 'Image of the Week', 'Fashion & Glamour Photo of the Week' & 'Picture of the Month' that are still using images from daily contests.

Carmine Warren wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We are going in the right direction with this, and everyone brings up some good points. I do feel we need to determine a number of entries and should not leave it to a random number between 2-5. I would recommend 3 images.
Once an image wins, it could not be used again and any image not winning would need to wait 30 days before resubmitting the image. I would also make it mandatory to vote if you have entered into the contest.
Carmine

John Carrasco wrote:
Agreed

Albertex Photography wrote:
I agree with John also.

Tara Jayne Mullins wrote:
agreed

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
Dito!

Yep! I agree with all of you! Great suggestions Carmine, thank you for your input! 

Personality Imaging wrote:
I haven't entered a contest and never will. I'm here for collaboration, not conquest. I hope contests don't make this site into another OMP fiasco.

That's a shame you feel this way because your images are absolutely amazing! But I don't understand why you're posting a negative comment in this thread if you don't even participate If you don't like something then just stay away from it..

Visually Odd Photo wrote:
All in all I like this idea. Change is not bad. Embrace it and make it work. I like the idea of reducing the same photos being used over and over. I am still seeing photos from two or more years ago using the same photo over and over, contest after contest. There is one model in particular that has had the same handful of pics for two or more years.
Two thumbs up. I'm in. To quote someone in one of the other threads - if it doesn't work, it can always be changed again.

I agree Chris, the fact of having the same images posted over and over again should be reduced. And as Carmine mentioned above, making a 30 days rule will reinforce that fact. Perhaps we could also not allow images that have been posted a numerous number of time? Thoughts on this?

And absolutely... if it doesn't work, it can always be changed again!

JAMES ROSS PHOTOGRAPHIX wrote:
Marlene,
I think it's a really good move.  There is no doubt that the quality of the images will just get better and better due to the expanded opportunities for all.
Best of all... we will all be able to see some AMAZING new models and photographers come out into the open.  Anyone that wins will most certainly be worthy!

That's exactly what I'm hoping for James!

Mark Salo wrote:

Were you trying to say something Mark? lol

Cre8tvegrl wrote:
It might not be popular but I'm of the opinion that there are too many contests. Classifying photos too discretely has not only led to clutter in the forums but also a thinning of the pool of individuals that participate.

While I can easily discern between Digital Art, Retouched, and Artistic Shot -s, I don't see why the three of them couldn't be lumped into the top of the creative heirarchy: Artistic Shot of the Day.

Similarly, Fashion/Glamour/BlackAndWhite photo of the day fall beneath the spans of Model or Photographer of the day (depending on which you are).

As for 18+, I can take it or leave it, but I don't think it is necessary to eliminate them when they are all marked. I think people realize that when they use an 18+ image, it may get overlooked in the contest when a voter is participating in a work-friendly environment. The disadvantage is a choice.

+1

Carmine Warren wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We are going in the right direction with this, and everyone brings up some good points. I do feel we need to determine a number of entries and should not leave it to a random number between 2-5. I would recommend 3 images.

Once an image wins, it could not be used again and any image not winning would need to wait 30 days before resubmitting the image. I would also make it mandatory to vote if you have entered into the contest.

Carmine

I really love this idea myself, especially sense we would be going with submissions and not winner from other contests...

Just my 2 cents
Dave

Excelsior Photography wrote:
I wish there was a standard way to enter all the contests. I don't understand why we cannot use the same uploading procedures for the B/W and headshot contests as we do for the original POTD competitions.

POTD & POTD18+ are MM.s site based contests.

The contests you listed are forum based contest and so have to be individually entered as some can change thread links daily ,Hosts change etc .

PLEASE NOTE: For April & May ONLY, the entries and voting will be shorter due to the recent rules changes, which results in a monthly delay.

Dates for submitting entries for April: 04/29 to 05/06
Dates for April voting: 05/06 to 05/12

Dates for submitting entries for May: 05/12 to 05/22
Dates for May voting: 05/22 to 05/31

PHOTOGRAPHERS: YOU MAY NOW START POSTING YOUR ENTRIES FOR PHOTOGRAPHER OF THE DAY - APRIL. Please see the updated rules here.

PLEASE NOTE: For April & May ONLY, the entries and voting will be shorter due to the recent rules changes, which results in a monthly delay.

Dates for submitting entries for April: 04/29 to 05/06
Dates for April voting: 05/06 to 05/12

Dates for submitting entries for May: 05/12 to 05/22
Dates for May voting: 05/22 to 05/31

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The 'Picture of the Month' contest will remain as it is for now and the new month will be updated shortly.

John Carrasco wrote:
A head shot means exactly what it says.

Well John, some of us dont think it is quite that simple.

While these are WONDERFUL shots, personally, and of course in my opinion, these are in no way shape form or fashion "headshots" and yet you allowed them in your contest....





I dont think your sample image is actually a headshot, it is a glamor portrait---again in my humble opinion.

If no one else feels like I do, then I will shut the hell up---but you had to delete nearly HALF of today's entries John---I dont think I am the only one confused about your definition....