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GWC - Guy with Camera - The real DEFINITION.......
Hmmmm So in photographer terms a gwc= Guy with camara. Now what would it be for models? JFP=Just a Pretty Face? Sep 13 08 03:19 am Link Crappy images? who hasn't been there. Modest port? ditto. As was pointed out several times, we all gotta start somewhere. Legs spread? Bend over? well, there's been some truly beautiful photos produced with those poses... and a lot of crap, too. There's no accounting for taste. To some I may appear to be a GWC simply because my subjects are mostly women. I proudly declare that I shoot what I want to shoot, and the female body is my favorite subject. Have I ever paid models to pose nude for me? Yes I have. Art is art, but people gotta eat, too. Especially the full-timers. One thing I can confidently say is that none of the models I have worked with feel that I am creepy or made them feel uncomfortable I treat models with respect, and really work hard to create the best image I can with my limited knowledge (2 degrees in music here and a full time job as a web developer... not so much as a single 'photography' class in my background) and limited equipment. What about 'pro' photogs who are full-timers, have all the gear, experience, and training, are making a living with their cameras, yet they are socially retarded and make models feel all gross? I have heard horror stories from models of men who are considered professional by their colleagues getting woodies during nude or lingerie shoots. Are they GWCs or not? What I really think qualifies someone as GWC isn't the port or the equipment, not the level of training or experience, not the studio (or lack thereof) or even whether or not the photos produced are generally considered to be 'in bad taste,' but it's that creepy feeling they give the models when they look at them, talk to them, or shoot them; that 'vibe' that they give off in person: that's the only true indicator. Pervs come in all shapes and sizes (yes, and some are even women, too). Sep 13 08 04:02 am Link So when does someone loose the lable "GWC" Who determines that, the models or fellow photographers? Sep 13 08 04:11 am Link Chris Keeling wrote: I agree with this. I'm not a GWC. But my profile lack creativity because of the most people I shoot. I shoot mostly country people that have no motivation. People in there 18-30 is kind of lazy in my town. Creativity is hard to find in my town. But the models in my profile now were great. Sep 13 08 04:33 am Link David Shinobi wrote: Very good question. Sep 13 08 04:40 am Link I don't think gwcs are as bad as models who don't show up and don't even bother to call or apologize. I think there are more of that on mm then anything else. At least gwcs go out with some purpose of photographing even if it's to take some tits and asses photos. Wanna be models just waste time, of course you probably won't see them on here in the forums because they can't read or have time to read this stuff since most go clubbing and so they can be too hung over to show up to a shoot. Sep 13 08 04:44 am Link David Shinobi wrote: I think even if you are not human anymore you'd still be an Alien With Camera, because as a race we love to label and judge everything just to make ourselves feel better. Sep 13 08 04:44 am Link Me being sorta new to photography I guess some can consider me a GWC but I like to think my work speaks otherwise. I feel I graduated GWC school and moved up to the ranks of "Amateur" Im fortunate that I have quite a few lady friends that help me out. Sep 13 08 06:29 am Link Here is a good one: GWC= Guy Wanting Coochie... Simply because the typical Guy With Camera purchases that camera because they tend to use it to get close to some coochie that they otherwise wouldnt ever have opportunity to even strike up converstion with  J-DEW-PHOTO wrote: Sep 13 08 06:42 am Link IMD wrote: That is an unfair defenition: Sep 13 08 11:28 am Link I'm glad I've raised an awareness on the term GWC. Goodness Grief...  Sep 13 08 03:32 pm Link one if my biggest fears is being pegged a GWC. I'd make a darn good one, I'm in my 30's, single, straight, and my photography is my creative outlet - my 9-5 pays the bills. I know I'm not one, my hope is other people agree with me... Not that I care. I've been repeated told I don't emit the 'creepy guy vibe' by models. I never even asked. Sep 13 08 05:56 pm Link Robb Mann wrote: You're work is definitely creative and artistic. Sep 13 08 06:39 pm Link If you are a photographer with a stick up your ass - everyone else is a GWC. If you are a model and have a stick up your ass all photographers - except your cool friends - are GWC. And all other models are wanna bees. Thats kinda rough. I see my self more as an NTAC - a no talent ass clown. I sometimes manage to take some nice photos of people, places, and things. Sometime I make money off of them. I also like putting my two cents in. I respect everyone who has the nerve to go and try to be or do something. One thing I have been learning here on MM is how to be positive. I find the positive thing to say about the photos I look at even if they are not my cup of tea. I am truely amazed at how nice people really are here and what they have said about my photos. I have got a few GWC cheap shots but I don't care. If you don't like my pics change the channel. I am middel aged and fat (but not bald). I run marathons, I am the worlds slowest marathon runner. Those people that win marathons know I am not in thier league. For some reason that doesn't matter. I am still a runner and given respect. 26.2 miles after the race starts I am a mess and puking and panting and wishing I was dead but I would still have enough energy to kick someone in the chops if they said I wasn't a marathoner because I am not taking home the prize. I hope some of you will find my photos interesting. I'll face the slings and arrows. This GWC crap is just that, crap. Sep 13 08 07:02 pm Link I wonder if Picasso was called a GWB when he first started? Sep 13 08 07:03 pm Link Roger Barnstead wrote:
Sep 13 08 07:11 pm Link You seem a little "testy" about the situation. Sep 13 08 07:14 pm Link ZingArts wrote: hehe Sep 13 08 07:16 pm Link ZingArts wrote: tes·ty Sep 13 08 07:17 pm Link This also applies to posers who occasionally lie their way into a "real" gig and then do things like, say, leaving their rear- and front- element lens caps off while changing lenses in a dusty arena. *shudder* People who spend their whole day distracting the press with stupid questions and then belittling the experience of actual professionals. Sep 13 08 07:32 pm Link Hell I think all new photographers, myself included, are at risk of being labeled GWC or FWC. Personally I don't shoot for newspapers or magazines or modeling agencies. I shoot for no commercial glory whatsoever. I shoot for art. I have no delusions of ever selling any of my work and the one shoot I had scheduled so far (I just decided to move from nature/landscapes/architecture to models 2 weeks ago) has been postponed until next weekend (was supposed to be tomorrow morning). The point is this. I am taking steps to avoid the label. -I am offering compensation (either cold hard cash or TF*) to every model -I tell every model who contacts me that if they are not comfortable for any reason with a particular photo, we don't have to take it. -I invite the model to bring a chapperone of his/her choosing to each shoot (under 18 I require a parent be present) -I have a release form which includes a spot for the model to describe in his/her own words what the shoot is going to be about-this has to be filled out for each shoot and must be completed before I start shooting. -I am upfront about the shoot with the model. I will tell them exactly what I expect before hand. Sep 13 08 07:35 pm Link Roger Barnstead wrote: Everyone started somewhere. A GWC is not just an amateur. It's an amateur who tries to establish himself by pretending to be more than he is and tearing down people he should be asking for help. It's someone with no ambition, no talent, and only a pretense of imagined fame to sustain him. Someone who says "hey, I'm new" isn't a GWC. That's an emerging photographer. A GWC isn't new. He was never new. He never had questions. He always new everything. His camera is better than yours, even though you're using a full-frame 52MP wonder of technology and he's using a 4MP relic. He knows more about lighting. Yeah, he shoots in his house. But it's because he wants to. Because studios are passe. Nobody in LA uses studios, but you wouldn't know that because he's cooler than you. Sep 13 08 07:36 pm Link GWC - the other guy that 's just starting out. Sep 13 08 07:40 pm Link Jon Ebling wrote: nice Sep 13 08 07:43 pm Link The funny thing is that GWC only came about when the digital age was born, until then to be a guy with a camera had to have a high level of understanding the basic mechanics on how it functioned and what film to use, what lens was the best, but of all.... you need to spend a heap of cash to buy it.... but now any fool can pick up a cheap entry level digital camera and overnight they become a PRO.... HAH, give half the so called pro photographers on MM a hasselblad or any other mechanical camera and they would ask, were does the film go, or some other strange question........ Sep 13 08 08:37 pm Link I do not have little testies! Sep 13 08 09:02 pm Link ::shakes head:: GWC's ::shakes head again:: Sep 20 08 05:30 pm Link Hollywood Starlet wrote: Sep 20 08 05:31 pm Link Them too! Sep 20 08 05:32 pm Link redheadedstepchildphoto wrote: some would say that if you are paying models then you are a gwc Sep 20 08 05:48 pm Link GWC Guy Without a Clue Sep 20 08 06:22 pm Link Hollywood Starlet wrote: LOL! FWC - Minus perversion! Why would you assume no girl/woman could be perverted? Is that because women are asexual? Or is it because we are all just that nice and decent? Sep 20 08 09:20 pm Link Nikitap wrote: Sweety pie. Sep 20 08 10:01 pm Link Page 1 Response Hollywood Starlet wrote: Jerry Nemeth wrote: Hollywood Starlet wrote: Sep 20 08 10:04 pm Link evenin Sep 20 08 10:04 pm Link a GWC will hate when it would be better to relocate Sep 20 08 10:04 pm Link LeDeux Art wrote: evenin' partner.. Sep 20 08 10:08 pm Link Hollywood Starlet wrote: Sep 20 08 10:11 pm Link Nikitap wrote: You're quote is jumbled. Sep 20 08 10:15 pm Link Hollywood Starlet wrote: your so beautiful, good evening Sep 20 08 10:21 pm Link |
