Photographer
Leroy Dickson
Posts: 8239
Flint, Michigan, US
No, I don't delete them. Other than horrible technical flaws and the rare brain fart photo, the entire shoot goes onto my proofing site. AND, I've actually had a few nip slips turn into print orders.
Photographer
DG at studio47
Posts: 2365
East Ridge, Tennessee, US
dave wright sf wrote: i wouldn't delete them from the back of the camera - what if the shot is great, and it just needs a bit of retouching so the nip doesn't show? thanks for the reality check! I had that situation with a model. She looked at several overhead glamor shots post shoot and we agreed the best lighting/pose/expression in the group also happened to have a nip slip. I edited it immediately, the model was ecstatic = a win win. THEN I deleted the 'original' nip slip image.
Photographer
AJ Garcia
Posts: 1416
Aliso Viejo, California, US
Leroy Dickson wrote: No, I don't delete them. Other than horrible technical flaws and the rare brain fart photo, the entire shoot goes onto my proofing site. AND, I've actually had a few nip slips turn into print orders. +1 I treat them like the rest of the photos to be honest. Dont know how many times a model who never poses nudes has actually wanted to buy a few of the slips for their own personal collection, just because they "really like them". I have one or 2 where the model totally forgot they were topless and busted out a pose with a full frontal showing. With the rhythm of me shooting I caught a shot of the pose before catching on to the mistake. In the end the models actually loved those images, wanted it for themselves and granted me permission to use in my physical book.
Photographer
Velella Velella
Posts: 229
Berkeley, California, US
If the model is one who doesn't do nudes or who has a no-nipple or no-crotch rule, I tell them ahead of time that they will have the opportunity to go through the photos in my camera after we shoot and delete the ones that show their tits or crotch. That way they don't have to worry about what's showing when they pose, and I don't end up with shots on my computer that I can't use.
Photographer
STUDIO2401
Posts: 1335
Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines
S de Varax wrote: I delete them, either while reviewing during the shoot, or after if I find them during processing. My assistant usually let me know if it's happening anyway so we'll stop and the model can adjust clothing. +1 Normally we review ALL pix after the shoot on a big screen and immed delete unwanted pictures. Given the space RAW files take, I usually keep only the pix the models have chosen, plus a few that I really don't want to delete. Unplanned 'exposure' slips are not part of the pix I keep.
Photographer
Leroy Dickson
Posts: 8239
Flint, Michigan, US
STUDIO2401 wrote: Given the space RAW files take, At only about $100 per terabyte, I don't take storage space into consideration at all.
Photographer
Star
Posts: 17966
Los Angeles, California, US
they are called sunrises, and i usually ask the mUA or assistant to keep an eye out for them while shooting
Photographer
dklee studio photo
Posts: 2587
Richmond, Virginia, US
i never delete any images straight from the camera. i rather just flag it in lightroom. I am not all that hard press in getting a nipslip. if i want to see a nipple, all i have to do is google it. i have shot a lot of imlied with models where the full nipple is showing, and when they see it on the camera, i have yet to have one say DELETE IT!!! they know it happens.. and they trust me enough to not publish it. nipslips to me end up being as distracting as eyes closed. they end up ruining the image.. so i usually take the time to make sure i never click, when one pops out...
Model
Faith EnFire
Posts: 13514
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US
Most photographers I've worked with have respected the limits of the shoot. Slips have occured but they've mentioned it and we judged the shot on it's own merits my slip-and the picture hanging on the wall made this a must have https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/11447175
Photographer
Jeremy I
Posts: 2201
Charlotte, North Carolina, US
Charles West wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Fairly silly statement. Been many cases where I did not genuinely see the slip, probably because I am focused on the overall image composition and not just her ta tas.
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
I don't normally work with models who have issues with nipples so it's not a problem Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com
Photographer
Accidental Plateau
Posts: 7715
Brooklyn, New York, US
Faith EnFire wrote: Most photographers I've worked with have respected the limits of the shoot. Slips have occured but they've mentioned it and we judged the shot on it's own merits my slip-and the picture hanging on the wall made this a must have https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/11447175 Was that intended or spontaneous? Regardless, it is awesome.
Photographer
Angelus Complex
Posts: 10501
Columbus, Ohio, US
Charles West wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. *Click* Move your shoulder to the right. *Click* Ok, drop it down. *Click* Lean forward, please. *Click* As you go forward with reviewing the images after the shoot, you see the nip slip. What uber slow ass photographer has the time to sit back and review the model from head to toe through the viewfinder, looking for nip slips as they're working? Hell you don't even see it through those tiny ass VF's in the first place. That's why they usually show up when you're going through the images on the monitor. I delete them.
Photographer
GCobb Photography
Posts: 15898
Southaven, Mississippi, US
Star wrote: they are called sunrises, and i usually ask the mUA or assistant to keep an eye out for them while shooting And I do this as well. In addition, I'm up front with the model and let her know it happened. If it doesn't contribute anything to the shoot I'll not use it. If she feels uncomfortable that she was exposed I'll delete it. But I have shown a recent one to a model and she suggested I "fix" the slip so she could turn in that shot, which I did. Trust can carry someone a long way and it has for me.
Photographer
GCobb Photography
Posts: 15898
Southaven, Mississippi, US
Jeremy I wrote:
Fairly silly statement. Been many cases where I did not genuinely see the slip, probably because I am focused on the overall image composition and not just her ta tas. And I'm another one who doesn't examine every line or object in the image before firing off a shot. For those of us who aren't focused on the boobs, it is easy to miss a slip.
Model
Faith EnFire
Posts: 13514
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US
RL_11214 wrote:
Was that intended or spontaneous? Regardless, it is awesome. accidental
Photographer
Dragon Knee Media
Posts: 370
Hamilton, Texas, US
One of the first shoots I done. the models top slide off the left side. I saw it but not till I had snapped a couple shots. I told her. She didn't seem concerned that it had fallen off. When I looked on the camera. None of it had been captured. You can see the left side but no nip. I didn't post it.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Charles West wrote: This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Angelus Complex wrote: *Click* Move your shoulder to the right. *Click* Ok, drop it down. *Click* Lean forward, please. *Click* As you go forward with reviewing the images after the shoot, you see the nip slip. What uber slow ass photographer has the time to sit back and review the model from head to toe through the viewfinder, looking for nip slips as they're working? Hell you don't even see it through those tiny ass VF's in the first place. That's why they usually show up when you're going through the images on the monitor. I delete them. When I read the first quote the first time, I thought he was saying "any photographer who says they NEVER see a nip slip is lying. Not true (school pictures, etc) but a valid point in general. But see it EVERY time? No way. I once found an upskirt in my proofs; and the model had no panties on. I had no idea the shot was there. When I looked through the other proofs, and thought back, it was clear. With set lights, nothing showed due to shadow. When the strobes fired . . . .
Photographer
Lumigraphics
Posts: 32780
Detroit, Michigan, US
Charles West wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Bullshit. I've been shooting for 27 years and still get things in my images that I didn't notice at the time. Not often mind you, but it does happen. There are also things like action shots where I have the model twirl around, flip her hair etc, or shots where I'm not looking through the viewfinder (either camera on tripod or holding it over my head) and low-light situations. But yeah, bold-faced liar and all that.
Photographer
Intimate Sketch
Posts: 324
New York, New York, US
A M Johnson wrote: I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes. +1 If I like the image for whatever reason, I might ask model's permission to use it. Wouldn't use it without asking first
Photographer
davejulianphotography
Posts: 367
Charlotte, North Carolina, US
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Photographer
Herman van Gestel
Posts: 2266
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
Depends...but i do not delete at the momen of shooting or from camera. i found out that deleting from camera corrupts the filesystem and images. I discuss them with the model and have either: photoshop away or leave them (especially if they seem natural, and not too obvious) Herman
Photographer
Mike Kelcher
Posts: 13322
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
I live in Minnesota. It's perky here. Nipples make the world go 'round, and I love 'em. I don't delete anything, ever. However, if the model wasn't intending for certain areas to show, I would not edit, display, or otherwise use such an image without specific consent above and beyond what the model release might say. I also wouldn't use it for obtaining....ummm....err....ahhh...hmmmm...."personal satisfaction"...(if you know what I mean). They aren't that exciting.
Photographer
Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10583
Los Angeles, California, US
Charles West wrote: This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Jeremy I wrote: Fairly silly statement. Been many cases where I did not genuinely see the slip, probably because I am focused on the overall image composition and not just her ta tas. Angelus Complex wrote: *Click* Move your shoulder to the right. *Click* Ok, drop it down. *Click* Lean forward, please. *Click* As you go forward with reviewing the images after the shoot, you see the nip slip. What uber slow ass photographer has the time to sit back and review the model from head to toe through the viewfinder, looking for nip slips as they're working? Hell you don't even see it through those tiny ass VF's in the first place. That's why they usually show up when you're going through the images on the monitor. I delete them. Lumigraphics wrote: Bullshit. I've been shooting for 27 years and still get things in my images that I didn't notice at the time. Not often mind you, but it does happen. There are also things like action shots where I have the model twirl around, flip her hair etc, or shots where I'm not looking through the viewfinder (either camera on tripod or holding it over my head) and low-light situations. But yeah, bold-faced liar and all that. Art of the nude wrote: When I read the first quote the first time, I thought he was saying "any photographer who says they NEVER see a nip slip is lying. Not true (school pictures, etc) but a valid point in general. But see it EVERY time? No way. I once found an upskirt in my proofs; and the model had no panties on. I had no idea the shot was there. When I looked through the other proofs, and thought back, it was clear. With set lights, nothing showed due to shadow. When the strobes fired . . . . Sorry guys. I forgot about the whole 35mm, 2,000 photos in a session thing. I still shoot 4x5, and yes, I'm extremely slow. Just seems strange to me.
Angelus Complex wrote: What uber slow ass photographer has the time to sit back and review the model from head to toe through the viewfinder, looking for nip slips as they're working? Hell you don't even see it through those tiny ass VF's in the first place. Me! Also, this:
Stefano Brunesci wrote: I don't normally work with models who have issues with nipples so it's not a problem www.stefanobrunesci.com
Photographer
Rays Fine Art
Posts: 7504
New York, New York, US
Tim Hammond wrote: I generally archive all shots from every shoot, but if there is any accidental nudity beyond what the model agreed to then I point it out to the model, tell her if I think the image is a keeper or would just sit in a DVD in my safe, and ask what her preference is. I've deleted a few fantastic shots because of that, but I've also had models who "don't do nudes" decide that I was trustworthy enough to do nude work with because of it. Treating people with courtesy and respect almost always pays off better than hiding things from them. Model photography is no exception. +1 I archive everything because of the ambiguity built in to 2257 and the fact that the way it's written 2257 is about keeping records, not about content. I have no problem taking any part of a shoot that the model objects to totally and permanently out of circulation. I just don't want a Feebee to come along years down the road and accuse me of corrupting the database.
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Jeremy I wrote: You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally. Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest? Inquiring minds and all... I delete nothing unless told to. And they know they exist because they'll be on their discs. I, however, do not share or use them.
Photographer
Norman Gould
Posts: 3462
North Bend, Oregon, US
Stefano Brunesci wrote: I don't normally work with models who have issues with nipples so it's not a problem Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com Yah..model edit=no possibility of slips, who needs to worry about dumb stuff...besides working with the pictures!
Photographer
DocG1
Posts: 500
Serenada, Texas, US
Mikes Images - Mike #4 wrote: ... However, if the model wasn't intending for certain areas to show, I would not edit, display, or otherwise use such an image without specific consent above and beyond what the model release might say. I also wouldn't use it for obtaining....ummm....err....ahhh...hmmmm...."personal satisfaction"...(if you know what I mean). They aren't that exciting. True. I let the model know and let her decide after seeing the photos. If NO GO, then they get deep-sixed, end of story. Trust and respect are priceless. A nipple isn't that big a deal. Three nipples, maybe... Good luck with that, Doc
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Asia Photo Connection wrote: Usually, they get deleted. However, if it's a great photo and post-production can cover up the slip then I'd consider keeping it. Also, for slips, I often share them with the model before deleting (it the photo is a good one). Fair is fair and if a model isn't comfortable then that can potentially bite me in the @ss in the future. Absolutely. I've found that trust* is the coin of the realm. *along with the ability to take a good picture.
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Christopher Hartman wrote: I delete nothing unless told to. And they know they exist because they'll be on their discs. Not the case for photographers who don't give the model a copy of every shot.
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Charles West wrote: This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Bullshit. Period. Plenty of times I haven't noticed a number of errors -- not just nip slips -- in the viewfinder because I'm concentrating on other details. And looking through a viewfinder is hardly the same as seeing the shot on a 22" monitor or a big print.
Photographer
Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10583
Los Angeles, California, US
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Model
Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
Charles West wrote: Sorry guys. I forgot about the whole 35mm, 2,000 photos in a session thing. I still shoot 4x5, and yes, I'm extremely slow. Just seems strange to me. Yes, you are slow, it takes you 2 hours to shoot 6 frames... But I never cover my nipples either so have at it.
Model
K I C K H A M
Posts: 14689
Los Angeles, California, US
I've had one slip like this and the photographer liked it enough to spend the time photoshopping it until acceptable. Then we ended up not liking it as much anyway, so it's not in either of our portfolios. But if a slip ended up getting sent out, beyond what the model agreed to, I would say that's pretty messed up. And even if I did nudes, I personally would not be likely to work with someone who I found had that lack of respect for boundaries.
Model
Lily Avengale
Posts: 762
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
I had it happen at this one shoot. Never got the images, and the photog didn't use them. Was rather funny though to find out after.
Photographer
ADHD
Posts: 145
Olympia, Washington, US
If the photo sucks I trash it when I am batch sorting, otherwise it goes into an oops folder to by photoshoped later if it can be used for smething.
Photographer
DG at studio47
Posts: 2365
East Ridge, Tennessee, US
Charles West wrote: This seems an exceedingly strange question. Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar. Period. Jeremy I wrote: Fairly silly statement. Been many cases where I did not genuinely see the slip, probably because I am focused on the overall image composition and not just her ta tas. true. I shoot static poses and in addition, have the model begin from a pose then break into movement.Often I am shooting as fast as my equipment will pace.I have only had 3 slips. they all occurred in movement shots and I did not 'see' them until the review.Two of the models did not care, wanted the images edited with and w/o the slip and placed on their CD. none have ever posted the slip images since they only do implied. The third model had me edit the slip out for posting, but wanted the original slip shot to send to a male friend. To date,everyone is still smiling.
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Orca Bay Images wrote:
Not the case for photographers who don't give the model a copy of every shot. Yeah but I'm talking about me.
Model
Kyana B
Posts: 181
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I had a few nip slips for the shoot I had last, but the photographer said he could easily photoshop it out and all was good again
Photographer
MLRPhoto
Posts: 5766
Olivet, Michigan, US
Charles West wrote: Sorry guys. I forgot about the whole 35mm, 2,000 photos in a session thing. I still shoot 4x5, and yes, I'm extremely slow. Just seems strange to me. I run about 200 images in 4 hours for a typical shoot these days, although it varies with a lot of things. IF the model is posing nude, and has a limit issue that's relevant to the shot, usually I can tell and make adjustments, although often in that case, the image as taken is more revealing than they want, and shadowing make it work out. But for a clothed shoot, in a dress or the like, I'm worried about other issues. I might allow a "nip slip" through in a case like this set: Because I knew she was fine with topless, and the tease was part of what we were going for. But this isn't a typical case. 18+ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2585/412 … 486b_o.jpg
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