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Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13562

Washington, Utah, US

I delete most photos that don't meet my intended needs, but since most models who take their clothes off are nude models anyways, having a nipple show just isn't an issue.

Mar 19 12 03:40 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 23575

Salem, Oregon, US

i don't delete them but i don't use them if it was supposed to be implieds only. sometimes the model likes one of the slips and so we do some airbrushing to make it implied. we had one customer choose one of the slips (unfixed) for her set and her husband said "wowa!"

Mar 19 12 03:43 pm Link

Photographer

afplcc

Posts: 6020

Fairfax, Virginia, US

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

Depends upon the shoot.  I've done plenty of shoots where the model had to get nude in order to achieve the right effect but we agreed the shots weren't to be of nudes.  So there's be an exposed nipple or more.  And those shots got deleted.  Another model shoots nudes specifically asked for an implied nude  I had (that she could use as an avatar) so when she unintentionally exposed a nipple that I didn't notice, I used contrast to hide it in shadow and create a usable implied nude for her.  I had one model who had implants and no feeling in her nipples...they kept slipping out of her top and she didn't notice. Those got deleted.

Bottom line:  if the model didn't want nipples showing then I delete the shot or adapt it so there's no nipple showing.  If I shoot nudes with that model and it's a "costume malfunction" than we just move on.

Ed

Mar 19 12 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

A_Nova_Photography

Posts: 8652

Winston-Salem, North Carolina, US

The shirt on the model in my default was completely see through prior to photoshop and I knew going into it that I'd have to retouch out the nipples... One version for web, one version for print...

Mar 19 12 05:41 pm Link

Model

Nedah Oyin

Posts: 11826

Chicago, Illinois, US

I don't think I've ever had a nipslip at a shoot.. Had one on the subway last week, though.. It was more like Janet at the superbowl sans nipple ring than just an accidental peek..

Mar 19 12 05:45 pm Link

Photographer

Faulty Focus

Posts: 696

Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada

Carlos Occidental wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question.  Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar.  Period.

I have to disagree. If I see a slip, it is usually in setting up the shot before I look in the viewfinder. I stop and suggest a wardrobe adjustment. Once the camera is at my eye, I am not looking so much at details, but the overall look and crop. In a review I am far more focussed on the focus and the lighting so even reviewing on the camera lcd screen, I often do not see mistakes until they are on the big screen.   

As to the op's question, I delete if it is a non-nudity or implied shoot.

So if you are going to call me a bold faced liar, I guess I have no choice other than to challege you to a duel.  lol

Mar 19 12 05:54 pm Link

Model

Bella la Bell

Posts: 4451

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Abby Hawkins wrote:
I remember doing a shoot in a corset once.  The corset was a little loose up top, so in certain poses, certain bits would show.  I saw the shots afterward and was devastated that the photographer used one of the nip slip ones for her port.  She removed it when I brought it to her attention, but it broke my heart a bit because I didn't sign up for anything resembling topless (furthermore, I'm a preschool teacher/nanny, so "topless" images like that can really have a negative impact on my career).

I totally understand you on that. I always have to tell my photographers what my job is when I get to the shoot, normally 99% of them are cool with it and always make sure to check with me if a image they took might be too much to show on their ports.
Normally this is done by written agreement and we talk about it before hand. smile never had issues yet.

Mar 19 12 06:01 pm Link

Photographer

William Kious

Posts: 8842

Delphos, Ohio, US

Carlos Occidental wrote:

This seems an exceedingly strange question.  Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar.  Period.

Then count me among the bold faced liars, then. I've discovered slips in post sorting that I didn't see through the viewfinder and/or camera display.

Mar 19 12 06:02 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Mar 19 12 06:08 pm Link

Model

Edeline Wrigh

Posts: 178

Bloomington, Indiana, US

Eh. Nevermind.

Mar 20 12 10:30 am Link

Photographer

afplcc

Posts: 6020

Fairfax, Virginia, US

William Kious wrote:

Then count me among the bold faced liars, then. I've discovered slips in post sorting that I didn't see through the viewfinder and/or camera display.

I guess I join the bold-faced liar club too.

I shoot mostly artistic nudes.  I've done long full-day shoots with a model and afterwards I realized I never noticed if she had pubic hair or not.  Why?  It wasn't relevant to that particular shoot, the poses we did never called for that to be an issue.

Well, if I"m focusing on a range of other issues, I may not notice if a nipple for a small-breasted model is peeking through a slit on the side of a top.  Or the model is spinning and a nipple pops out of the top.  It happens.  I don't happen to spend most of my shoots in a studio and I don't happen to spend most of my time focusing on my model's nipples.

Ed

Mar 20 12 12:42 pm Link

Photographer

Star

Posts: 17966

Los Angeles, California, US

Abby Hawkins wrote:
I remember doing a shoot in a corset once.  The corset was a little loose up top, so in certain poses, certain bits would show.  I saw the shots afterward and was devastated that the photographer used one of the nip slip ones for her port.  She removed it when I brought it to her attention, but it broke my heart a bit because I didn't sign up for anything resembling topless (furthermore, I'm a preschool teacher/nanny, so "topless" images like that can really have a negative impact on my career).

If a model doesn't shoot topless she could choose to cover her nipples with flesh colored "stickies" available at almost every lingerie store in the country.

Mar 20 12 01:00 pm Link

Photographer

Innovative Imagery

Posts: 2841

Los Angeles, California, US

Carlos Occidental wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question.  Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar.  Period.

With all due respect, I completely disagree with you.  The image of a person in a standard viewfinder, is only 1 inch tall.  So full length or 3/4 view of a person with say lace lingerie on and shadows from lighting we are talking about and object that is less than 1/16 of an inch in size.  And it could be in motion, say dancing or twirling.

As we get older, often we don't see something until it comes up on the computer screen at 100 % enlargement.

So please temper your judgmental comments with some real world information.

To the OP, if the shoot isn't supposed to have any exposure and that is why they are called "slips", then if they happen, I go over them with the model and and we decide then whether we fix them or delete them.  Treat them fairly, with respect and you will have no problems.

Certainly, if her top swings open and the whole breast is exposed, we will see that and fix it, before we go on.

EDIT:  Now that I have read the whole thread and seen your correction to your miss-statement, I understand where you were coming from and accept your mistake.  Sure shooting large format where you lupe the whole ground glass makes it easy to spot them, but that is a very large exception to the rule today.

Mar 20 12 01:15 pm Link

Model

Roberta H

Posts: 162

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I mostly shoot nudes so nipples aren't a huge deal for me. I do find it frustrating when that does happen in a different sort of shoot and a photographer uses them. I think it's a complete breach of trust.

It's not a huge deal because my nudes are all out there anyway, but I think it constitutes taking advantage of someone.

I DO however have a no labia/vagina agreement most of the time as a nude model (sometimes closed legs are fine) and so far no one has posted any of THOSE. I would be extremely upset if someone did that because I am very adamant about that.

Mar 20 12 02:46 pm Link

Model

K I C K H A M

Posts: 14689

Los Angeles, California, US

Wysiwyg Photography wrote:

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

+1 (Old post, but still relevant today).

I would likely delete the image.. BUT.. I don't do any "Implied" nude work with anyone other then nude models.. so it would never be an issue.

On the rare occasion that we would do an "implied shot" where the model doesn't do nudes, but wants a shot that shows her body off but not "bits"... it is a specific pose and the shutter doesn't release till the model is in place anyway.

I've had nip slips, and I don't do implieds.

There are plenty of cases where you can be wearing clothing and there can be a slip, especially in fashion-oriented work.

(never had anyone try to use one, though).

Mar 20 12 02:53 pm Link

Photographer

True Colours Photograph

Posts: 203

Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Jim Macias wrote:
I think that nipples should be removed at birth. They are clearly evil and dirty. I propose that they are replaced with a non-erotic bio port for nurturing off-spring.

+1

Fourteen billion of the damn things infect the earth.  Seven billion connection devices between mother and child, the other seven billion as useless as teats on a bull.  When the hell did they become naughty objects to be concealed and never revealed - the source of embarrassment? 

Grow up America for God's sake.

Mar 20 12 03:34 pm Link

Photographer

GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

I don't delete anything other than obviously bad shots.  I don't keep it from the models, they never ask me to remove them either.

Mar 20 12 03:38 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

I prefer to shoot models who are happy to work topless - then we conspire to make it look as if a nip slip occurred.... wink






Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Mar 20 12 03:40 pm Link

Photographer

Vintagevista

Posts: 11804

Sun City, California, US

Most of my images are nudes - so nip slips are not an issue.

However, a long time ago - when I was shooting film - I did have an accidental image that was very explicit - WAY more than either one of us would have been comfortable with.  (hey it happens - when you are shooting sequences as people are moving)

When we met to go over images - I handed her an envelop with the negative in it.  Told her she could do with it whatever she wanted - that I didn't want her to think I was pulling a fast one.  She seemed very appreciative that I had gone to the trouble to tell her - and put her at ease - about something she had no idea had happened at the shoot.

Mar 20 12 04:40 pm Link

Photographer

Barry Kidd Photography

Posts: 3351

Red Lion, Pennsylvania, US

Carlos Occidental wrote:
This seems an exceedingly strange question.  Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar.  Period.

Sometimes I chimp.  Sometimes I don't or it's a mix.  As a film photographer I'd think you wouldn't chimp yourself and realize how ridicules that statement was.

For the record I delete them.  Sometimes in camera if I'm chimping sometimes later.

I do have one.  I never used it nor have a actually seen it in perhaps ---- 5 years but I know it's there (so does the model) as it's archived on DVD.  The shot was just too beautiful, too perfect to through away.  What a waist.  It was in fact one of the best photos I've ever shot of a person and ---- it just sets on that disk.  Oh well, shit happens.

Mar 20 12 06:28 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

As far as I know, I only had nip slips when shootingmyself. I was a lot more lax with letting it happen, for obvious reasons. I kept them, but only the boy and I saw smile

Mar 20 12 06:36 pm Link

Photographer

bmiSTUDIO

Posts: 1734

Morristown, Vermont, US

I never delete them. I have had several models decide they liked them once they saw them. They realized that they were in good taste, didn't reveal all that much or they didn't realize how beautiful showing a nipple or labia could be in the proper context. So now I just let them know they exist. I put them in a separate folder and show them to the model if she is interested. Some of them request them in order to show their friends, hubbies or boyfriends privately. Largely it's a matter of trust and having a good reputation.

Mar 20 12 06:36 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

True Colours Photograph wrote:
Seven billion connection devices between mother and child, the other seven billion as useless as teats on a bull.

Er, not all female nipples are used to feed infants. Mine sure as hell aren't for that.

Mar 20 12 06:38 pm Link

Photographer

Barry Kidd Photography

Posts: 3351

Red Lion, Pennsylvania, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

Er, not all female nipples are used to feed infants. Mine sure as hell aren't for that.

Damn!  210 million years of evolution down the toilet.

Mar 20 12 06:46 pm Link

Photographer

Luminos

Posts: 6065

Columbia, Maryland, US

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

If I'm shooting anything at all these days, I use a nude model who has only one rate.

Saves all the bother and drama.

Mar 20 12 07:19 pm Link

Photographer

Rick Edwards

Posts: 6185

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Luminos wrote:

If I'm shooting anything at all these days, I use a nude model who has only one rate.

Saves all the bother and drama.

^^^ this

Mar 20 12 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

Wysiwyg Photography

Posts: 6326

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

K I C K H A M wrote:

I've had nip slips, and I don't do implieds.

There are plenty of cases where you can be wearing clothing and there can be a slip, especially in fashion-oriented work.

(never had anyone try to use one, though).

I understand that.. I guess I should have said "On the rare occasion that I work with a 'non-nude' model... I would delete the image."

All other situations the models wouldn't care, because she is a nude model.
Bad images get deleted regardless if nipple is showing or not tongue

Mar 20 12 07:47 pm Link

Photographer

Justin

Posts: 22389

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

With models who say they don't want the bits showing, I do a lot of saying, "Nipple exposed on right," or something like that. But no, I don't always catch everything in the viewfinder. If it turns out that something's peeking but I really like the shot, I'll talk to the model about it. Maybe they like the shot and it's OK as long as their face isn't showing.

That's the exception. Generally, if nipplage is out there, the photo never sees the light of day.


ETA: I'm not taking any pride in writing this. I think it's obvious and baseline human decency.

Mar 21 12 05:32 am Link

Photographer

J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Thank god the MM White Knights now have a new topic to flock to, other than escorts.

Mar 21 12 09:33 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Luminos wrote:
If I'm shooting anything at all these days, I use a nude model who has only one rate.

Saves all the bother and drama.

Typically, I don't use nip slips even WITH a nude model.  If it looks like an accident, it probably doesn't look good.  That is, in a "nipple sneaking out of the clothing" sense.

Mar 21 12 09:09 pm Link

Photographer

White Lace Studios

Posts: 1719

Mesa, Arizona, US

A M Johnson wrote:
I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes.

+1

I do the same. I see no difference in this and eye blinks, flash not poping, etc. - it wasn't what we were going for so the shot gets culled.

Mar 21 12 11:11 pm Link

Photographer

Mearle

Posts: 916

Olympia, Washington, US

If the nips aren't showing I throw the model out!

Mar 21 12 11:22 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Mearle wrote:
If the nips aren't showing I throw the model out!

Every shot?

The bottom image here was cropped to make my avatar.  No nipples, but I'm still pretty pleased.  (18+, and yes, I know you're kidding.)
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/p … 6#25848256

Mar 22 12 05:02 am Link

Photographer

FASHION AND BEAUTY

Posts: 1017

London, England, United Kingdom

DELETE without hesitation

Mar 22 12 08:18 am Link

Photographer

Paul Venomous

Posts: 466

South Beach, Florida, US

I keep EVERY shot I take (including nip slips and even black frames when lights don't fire) and archive them with the entire shoot on my external.

Reason being ... later when I go back to look if there are file numbers missing in a sequence i wont know what they are/were anymore and wonder why they are not there.
*And just because I could not fix them now, doesn't mean I could not later and still want to use the image at that time.

Paul Venomous
www.paulvenomous.com
www.twitter.com/PaulVenomous

Mar 23 12 12:14 am Link

Photographer

John Fleck

Posts: 11

Denver, Colorado, US

215 Studios wrote:
I actually have one in my portfolio, here. Neither the model, nor I noticed it for almost a year after it was shot, and this was one of the first images I gave her from this shoot. When she pointed it out to me, she laughed and told me, "I can't believe my parents have a picture with one of my nipples in it hanging on their wall!"

I apologized, and told her I'd be happy to fix it in PS, and reprint it for her, but she wasn't concerned about it, at all. She said it was her "first nudie picture."

This is it:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/061222/18/458c6bae6a105_m.jpg

that's a great shot and you really have to be desperate to see a nipple to even notice

Mar 24 12 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Greg Coleman

Posts: 2293

Sanford, Florida, US

Count me with the "keep every frame" crowd.  Only pics I delete on-camera are light misfires.  I archive everything, because you never know what might be useable with a little cropping or retouching.

And yes I've edited, sent to the model, and posted at least one image for a no-nudes shoot that had a nipple in it that neither of us noticed for months after the shoot.

Mar 26 12 01:44 pm Link