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Photogdan
Posts: 687
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Awesome! Very nice for someone to bring this up, but really if we ALL work together and provide quality service for each other and our 3rd party clients (those who hire models and buy photo rights) then we can all benefit. Been around photography a long time, not much in model work so far but willing to pay the price for someone to be here when they are supposed to be. More than willing to get pics out there, so TF is not a cost to me but a benefit! Shoot I have paid and provide CD before, and will again!
thanks again, you are one awesome lady
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Black Sunshine
Posts: 811
Austin, Texas, US
Word. I'm having to sell off some of my best equipment to pay the government leeches, and then save up $2,500 to get the Mark II. This isn't a cheap profession for someone who currently doesn't have a job.
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Robert A Rice Photo
Posts: 22
Denver, Colorado, US
I can't thank you enough for your posting
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Shane Van Laar
Posts: 39
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
True Colours Photograph wrote:
+1
And God bless all those beautiful souls who agree to work with photographers still on their 'L' plates. +1 
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Darrell Graves
Posts: 128
Kalispell, Montana, US
Thank you Winnie for appreciating us, and your understanding of what we really go through behind the camera. I would just like to give you and all the models out there kudos as well for without we would all be photographing the landscapes (and although beautiful as well it is just not as exciting).
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Life Is Great Images
Posts: 947
Bozeman, Montana, US
erasm roterdam wrote:
Winnie,
I think that you just became my favorite model. +5
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Bighorn Photography
Posts: 404
Florissant, Colorado, US
Thank you so very much for thinking about all of us. And we very much appreciate you and all of the other models too.
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Edward Chen
Posts: 1630
Jakarta, Jakarta, Indonesia
Winie..
I almost cry....
I just came back from a 5 hours photoshoot. It's damn tiring.
Open MM and found something nice to read from you...
thank you! Hearing it out from a model, it does really means a lot to me as a photographer.
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Edward Chen
Posts: 1630
Jakarta, Jakarta, Indonesia
Steve Broadbent wrote:
I think i love you me too!
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Stewart Ransom
Posts: 100
STATEN ISLAND, New York, US
So where do you want to go on the Honeymoon??
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Stone Groove
Posts: 302
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
That was a very sweet post Winnie, thank you. I think we could all do with a little less "us vs. them" mentality & threads like this can only help cultivate that!
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J Caldwell
Posts: 65
Durham, North Carolina, US
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Steven Bodo
Posts: 453
Seattle, Washington, US
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Chuckarelei
Posts: 11271
Seattle, Washington, US
Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers. Winnie, your intention is good. But I hope models here don't think all your pointers here are automatic entitlement. That's simply not the case.
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Julian W I L D E
Posts: 1831
Portland, Oregon, US
Stephanie M wrote:
Thank you photographers for forever immortalizing my youth, so that I will always be able to look back on how I am now. Just as YOU immortalize our youth. All in all... it's a Beautiful Thing!! -JULIAN
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Orlando Ingram
Posts: 263
Tampa, Florida, US
Thank you young lady, you are definitely appreciated!
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STUDIO2401
Posts: 1335
Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines
xie xie nin
You know I loved you already.
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mark hollywood
Posts: 455
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Singapore yeah sure go to jail for Farting
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DV8
Posts: 140
Lewisville, Texas, US
I like this so much I linked to it on my MM page! Thank You Again!!!
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Cinema Photography
Posts: 4488
Boulder, Colorado, US
Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers. You are such a doll Miss Winnie!
I'll bring the Carlsberg and swoop in before all these other fellas get any fancy ideas
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Rob Wright Photography
Posts: 265
Lawndale, California, US
Thank you Winnie. A little appreciation, goes a very long way.
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Mike Flavin
Posts: 676
Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, US
That was awesome! I want to add a thanks from a newbie to all the far more experienced photographers who have shared their knowledge and helped me learn the craft 
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KA Style
Posts: 1583
Syracuse, New York, US
MUAH Thanks for #5 too. I go home sore, dirty, and tired a hell sometimes. I know you do too as i get into poses to show models on a shoot. I get sore and only have to show it once. You as a model have to hold it for a few shots
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1731
San Antonio, Texas, US
Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.
1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.
2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an unexpected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.
3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.
4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.
5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.
6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.
7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.
8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).
9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.
10)Thanks for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.
11)Thanks for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.
12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.
I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. " Thank You "
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Chuckarelei
Posts: 11271
Seattle, Washington, US
mark hollywood wrote:
Singapore yeah sure go to jail for Farting Only when people know.
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Westdahl Studio
Posts: 333
COEUR D ALENE, Idaho, US
Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.
1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.
2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an unexpected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.
3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.
4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.
5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.
6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.
7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.
8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).
9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.
10)Thanks for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.
11)Thanks for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.
12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.
I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. Je vous aime beaucoup.
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GENIO Photography
Posts: 7
Rockville, Maryland, US
What can I say that has not already been said. Appreciation and understanding are commodities that are few and far between. Photographers are often taken for granted and not given the credit that we deserve for all of the hard work we put in: before, during, and after a photoshoot. Thank you for an excellent post.
If you ever in my neck of the woods and need a photog, give me a yell. I'll make time for you. :-)
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gone for good
Posts: 184
Andover, England, United Kingdom
winnie, thank you for taking the time to do this. It means a lot to me.
Jeff
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Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
this is amazing. I just got back from a 12 hour shoot and was glad to find this.
I'm adding one more.
Model
Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Photographer
Altons Images
Posts: 55
Yilan, Yilan, Taiwan
Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.
1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.
2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an unexpected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.
3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.
4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.
5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.
6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.
7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.
8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).
9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.
10)Thanks for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.
11)Thanks for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.
12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.
13) Thank for for having to be the bad guy and reject us because our look don't fit your project, your concept, but deep inside your heart you can't find the heart to tell us that outrightly because we are so earnest when we respond to your casting or when we message you. You try to act like a jerk, but you feel uneasy about it. It's okay. we understand 
I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. Thank you for that eloquent appreciation, Winnie. The subject heading reads like the beginning of an Akon rap (which is good, because he's a poet). Then I started reading the OP and it got better and better.
Rest assured the appreciation is returned in Taiwan.
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Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Harold Rose wrote:
Gosh, I have been at the business of photography professionally for 60 years, and haven't learned but 5 percent of that... Go with the newbie advice, just be sure it is accurate.. not just your opinion.. Did I say it was my opinion? which part in my post did I say that?
Did I slam newmodels.com? or anything related to new modelling?
Did I post an inaccurate fact that was misleading to any model?
I'll send you a cheque for a hundred dollars if you can answer my questions. Pm me your address.
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FashionPhotographer
Posts: 2521
New York, New York, US
Winnie I ⥠you btw #6 made me happy and sad at the same time. I was one of those ones who paid for photo school and with tuition/school fees alone I could have a porsche of my choice haha. - Phen
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Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
H B P wrote:
She's my girl. We're going to elope and then get some ice cream. Weeeee! My love.
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Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Sparrow Maiden wrote:
And thank you, to all photographers who genuinely care when we're freezing on a location shoot and will do their utmost to make us feel comfortable and appreciated.
Thank you for listening to our ideas (even if they don't work).
Thank you for bearing with our impatience to see the results of our shoots
In general, I can say most of the photogs I have worked with have been
trustworty, professional and apologetic if the photos took a little longer to get ready than expected.
Thumbs up!
And Winnie, as I said already, you are such a lovely girl. It's great to see you being caring and appreciative! Yes good one. I will add that to my list. If I can find somewhere if its not mentioned before
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ForeverFotos
Posts: 6662
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
marry me
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H B P
Posts: 3592
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Winnie L wrote:
Weeeee! My love. ^^^^
ForeverFotos wrote:
marry me Yup, enough said. lol 
Model
Winnie L
Posts: 5868
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Can I marry one at every state? Harold is my first love, but he must be not eat ice cream with any other model nehnehnehneh.
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