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Is there a remote control Strobe to set power?
Recently I got a set of lights with variable power on them, and can't believe how much time I spent in the past messing with gels and filters to stop down lights(Well in most cases the fixed lights offer a 1/2 power switch actually). But after having a knob I want to change out some other lights now, but the hair light is still an issue because it is high up and requires something to step up on to get to it, or bring the light down, either way it is a chore to deal with. I wondered if there was a remote control strobe so the power could be set at ground level. The closest thing I can think of is the older style systems with the power controller that sits on the floor. Any suggestions on this? Apr 03 12 06:37 pm Link I'm a Nikon guy and enjoy the CLS controlling my remote speedlights from the camera. Apr 03 12 06:44 pm Link Thanks, that is the concept, I am not sure if the Nikon can work if it has a radio on the hot shoe already, but will check it out. The basic idea is to be able to adjust the power by any means, I will not be sticking with the Nikon long so another option will have to be sorted out soon. Apr 03 12 07:06 pm Link An SB-800 or SB-900/910 is a controller and can adjust many other SB-600, 800, 900/910 flashes. An alternate is the PCB line of strobes using the CyberCommand controller and the proper receivers on their strobes. Apr 03 12 07:12 pm Link Thanks for that additional info, so basically any camera can be used but control it via one of the units as the master. Apr 03 12 07:16 pm Link Todd Rok wrote: If you want a studio strobe look at the Alien Bees: Apr 03 12 07:30 pm Link Paul C. Buff - Einstein E640 cyber commander Elinchrom Sky port Profoto Air The latter two are pricey but the Paul Buff is pretty inexpensive Cannon just released the ST-E2 Speedlite transmitter, this has a built in Radio that is good to about 30 meters. The corresponding Flash also has a built in Radio, 5 zones and up to 15 flashes. Just ordered one and I pick it up tomorrow. The flash is still on back order. Apr 03 12 07:32 pm Link The Nikon SB series can drive you crazy fiddling with all the settings , menus etc. I shoot with profoto D1 airs, it has a remote flash trigger you can adjust the D1(s) separately or in groups. It has 7 stop power adjustment in 1/10 increments. I have sb-600 's and its a royal pain to configure the settings. I've done it using my D200 just too many menus' submenus to deal with. Apr 03 12 07:33 pm Link Apr 03 12 07:38 pm Link I use the Radiopopper system and love it. They can control the power setting of both my speedlights and my Alien Bees right from the trigger on the camera. I can even mix and match. I'm not affiliated with them at all, just a really happy customer. http://radiopopper.com/ Apr 03 12 07:39 pm Link Elinchrom Style RX system with either a EL-Skyport system or the Pocketwizard TT5/TT1 with the Power ST4 Apr 03 12 07:41 pm Link Hensel Integra Pro system lights can be adjusted but buttons on the trigger, that's how I change my hairlight intensity from the camera. Apr 03 12 07:57 pm Link I use PocketWizards in combination with Canon 580exIIs, 430exIIs, and a mess of AlienBees. Some FlexTT5s, some AC9s, and an AC3 zone controller, and you're good to go. Just make sure it's the Nikon version. http://www.pocketwizard.com/products/tr … 20adapter/ Apr 03 12 08:57 pm Link The 'older style' with the power control on the floor is commonly called a pack and head system and is style most of the top end brands use. You will find them on most professional shoots. Just needed to point that out. Many of these brands have their own wireless systems with power control, I use Elinchrom and it's part of their sky port system. If you shoot Nikon their CLS system for speed lights is unmatched in it's control as another option. Apr 03 12 09:07 pm Link I use Photogenic 1250DR monolights, digital display, remote control just like the tv, control by 1/10 stops... Apr 03 12 09:13 pm Link Good Egg Productions wrote: I have both if the Above almost I actually have a SB-900 and two SB700s and I control them from the built in flash on my D7000 . The Cyber Commander is very cool but make surf you read the manual. Apr 03 12 09:13 pm Link KFM Designs wrote: How about these? Apr 03 12 10:11 pm Link http://www.profoto.com/air-sync-remote/ … 3vfj3huEZM Works with AIR Equipped gear- i.e. D1 monolights, B3 AIR, Acute 1200 Air etc. Amazing product. DC http://portfolio.dcchavez.com Apr 03 12 10:44 pm Link Alienbees and Whitelightning also have a wired remote L4GX. 99 dollars and will control up to 4 sets of lights up to 100 feet using simple telephone cords. (has four outlets - more lights using splitters) 5 volt trigger voltage. Apr 04 12 12:27 am Link All new Elinchrome have this feature, as you can control the light from the trigger unit. J. Apr 04 12 12:33 am Link KFM Designs wrote: I bought the elinchrom sky port and it broke within a few usage, well just the on button I still have to send it in to rewire the button or whatever, but I bought some ebay triggers for way way less and have been way more reliable. Apr 04 12 12:48 am Link Gaze at Photography wrote: +1 Apr 04 12 12:52 am Link Good Egg Productions wrote: If you're using the Nikon CLS then I find you're better off sticking a SU-800 controller on the camera's hotshoe and freeing up that SB-800 or SB-900/910 to do the lighting magic where it really needs to be. Apr 04 12 12:54 am Link the lonely photographer wrote: Oddly, it's all those menus that give you so much control over the groups and channels that let you make those tiny little adjustments which make the world of difference in your final shot. I gel my Nikon SB-800 to mix and match with background lighting or push out the contrast between. The results are much harder to control with other systems for the same price and ease of transport not to mention power supply requirements. Oh and for the record, I have all the user manuals in mint, crisp condition as I figure things out straight out of the box. Rule of thumb, if you can't get the general idea of how it works within 15 minutes of fiddling around with it, it's either poorly laid out (bad UI) or it's more than you need so you should take it down a notch. Apr 04 12 01:05 am Link Photogenic makes a controller (PLRC-2) that can control up to nine Solair strobes. I'm pretty sure they work with the current digital Powerlights too. Each flash to be controlled needs a PLDI-2 receiver. There's nothing like it when you've got a 33.5-inch Mola Euro dish on a boom above the model and 10 feet above floor level. Apr 04 12 01:09 am Link Many thanks again for all these suggestions. I had no idea it could get so involved trying to sort this out, a lot of good options to consider. I did study each system posted, and have settled for the moment on going with an AB B400 for a hair light just to test out the concept, using the Cyber Commander on my Nikon. I do intend to get a Canon this month, and wanted to be able to toggle between cameras easily without dedicated systems. According to the sales at Buff just now, I was told that I can separately control the modeling lamp and strobe lamp power via the Cyber Commander, no need to go into the camera itself. I like being able to set the model lamp separately, as it makes adjustments easier and there is no need to have the model having too much lights on at all times between shots, it can be a vibe killer. So with separate control, make adjustments, then roll it off or down. If this concept doesn't seem correct from those that use the B400 and CC, a heads up would be welcome. After testing the first strobe, then I will get some of the others. I did like the handheld 4 channel version they sell with phone wires, but it does not control modeling lamps also. Also, I can imagine tripping on the wires soon, they would have to always be taped down and that is a lot of extra work for a shoot, especially to change a setup. So full wireless is the only best solution imo. Some of the other systems posted were really nice, but the strobes are very pricey. Apr 05 12 07:52 am Link Todd Rok wrote: YOu ceratinaly made a reasonable choice for a starter system. Apr 05 12 08:02 am Link Not sure what these are like but not that expensive http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hobo-Lighting … 113wt_1185 Apr 05 12 08:39 am Link my hairlight is an ab400 and i can purchase a wired remote control for about $100 i believe. beats getting up on a ladder. Apr 05 12 08:56 am Link hartcons wrote: my solution is to have 3 ghetto low power strobes on their low setting. I start with one. If i need more light I plug more of them in. no ladder required, but I do have to sometimes jump to adjust the barn doors on the outer ones. Apr 05 12 09:01 am Link DC Chavez wrote: The D1 setup is really easy to use, balancing the lighting ratios is so easy. You'd get spoiled with the power range youcan fiddle with. Makes getting the lighting perfect so much easier Apr 05 12 10:55 am Link de BUEN PHOTOGRAPHY wrote: well good for you thatyou can figure things out out of the box, the intellectually challenged lonelyphotographer did take it down a notch. I bought a set of Profoto D1 with the AIR controller, Apr 05 12 11:03 am Link lonely photog I did study that system, it is really nice. But at the moment the first effort is to get a set of hair lights, and other lights that will be up high and not easy to reach. That cheapest D1 is the 250 I believe, and most places offer it at USD995! The remote is 300. For the moment, this will just be on the wish list for the future. Thanks for the links, hopefully one date I can explore it. Apr 05 12 04:01 pm Link Paul C Buff Cyber Commander + Apr 05 12 04:13 pm Link de BUEN PHOTOGRAPHY wrote: I use CLS SB900s, 800s, SU800 for portability and Alien Bees in the studio. I have added Pocket Wizard equipment to the ABs and CLS gear to extend my control. Apr 05 12 04:16 pm Link Todd Rok wrote: I feel your pain, been almost a year since I got the D1's, had to pay it off overtime with a credit card. sometimes you can get 0% financing on photoequipment, Apr 05 12 04:44 pm Link The more you spend the better gear you get. It's a simple fact. If the value and convenience for you match the higher cost is a trade-off you have to make. The Elinchrom BX-Ri products are affordable mid-range monoblocks with built in radio control. For pack+head systems Profoto, Broncolor and others too, I suppose, have radio based control and triggering. May 01 12 06:28 am Link Jesse Mullins wrote: Oh, the classic mix up of Sweden and Switzerland. May 01 12 06:36 am Link the lonely photographer wrote: From a usability perspective the Elinchrom BX-Ri suck badly suffering exactly from the kind of interaction you mention and I cannot get it how come that release a product in 2009-ish still based on a 2-digit element display, clumpsy combinations to press and a cryptic menu system to memorize. May 01 12 06:42 am Link In studio, I use Alien Bees with the CyberSync system. Can control the power of every strobe all from the transmitter unit on the hot shoe. Love this, and going back to manual control would be a nightmare at this point. For location shooting I use Canon EOS Speedlights and either their build in(non radio) line of site remote control or Radio Popper transmitters and receivers, which more or less give you the same control as the proprietary system, but with MUCH more reliable radio triggering. May 01 12 11:51 am Link |