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Don't just say "Interested"
Those of you who use model mayhem know what i’m talking about. Those people that reply to a casting with one word “interested” as opposed to answering basic questions required for any photo shoot. It seems like a waste of time for me to have to then reply and ask these questions, and then wait a day and a half at times, and maybe longer for a response, to then have to respond again to confirm a date to shoot…….IT’S JUST TO MUCH. I among others in this industry don’t believe in the idea of the “stupid” or “dumbfounded” model who just sits and looks pretty and has to have someone to wipe their ass when done on the toilet. To be honest; to be a good model is freaking hard work. people like to say that modeling is different from acting, and i’m here to correct that. It isn’t very different; we’re asking you to do the same thing, which is to act out a role that doesn’t necessarily match you’re own personality. The simple difference is that acting, in most situations, requires interaction and the capturing of this role in a time based medium, where as photography requires all of that to be in one frame. it is still acting in most senses of the word. I mean look a modeling shows on TV; look at Americas Next Top Model for goodness sake. There is a clear divide in the show between the models while on a shoot and the models while at home….and the part they really don’t show is that those women are smart as hell. you think they’re just sitting and being beautiful. No they’re studying all of the top model magazines in the country…in the world. you ask them for a certain look, the good ones can tell you what that look entails, and what each body movement tells their viewers. Modeling isn’t just siting there and being some stupid object….and until people entering the fashion/editorial industry know that….until models on model mayhem really know that…and until model mayhem promotes that as their statute of liberation…..that is professionalism….Model Mayhem will always be looked down upon as utterly amateur . It’s great that your interested in what ever casting call that you reply to, but honestly we already know that. This is one of the reasons why model mayhem has the cheap, amateur reputation in the industry now, because people don’t think about simple things, such as submitting to a casting. When you go to a live casting, you don’t just go in looking any type of way and say “i’m interested”…….everyone knows that the casting director might put you out. Look at your model mayhem profile…study your images and in comparison study images printed in fashion spreads. think about what about those images look good…….look at how the models are posing, think about the character they are playing. So Lets get real with the mess, i’m not using model mayhem because I want to be an amateur, i’m using it because I want to expand my portfolio, my name as a photographer, and most importantly my professional skills. And the only way to do that is to hold yourself to a professional standard. A casting call on model mayhem is equivalent to a casting or an interview in real life. Your response is your practice in the game of professionalism. These are basic questions to answer right off the back when submitting to a casting call do you have particular dates and times you’re available to shoot do you have clothes you’re able to bring do you need example images of what i’m looking for The simple question to ask yourself, so as to not make a fool of yourself is “what will they want to know from me” because if your responding at all…we already know that you’re interested, what we really want to know is how can you be of help Oct 14 12 08:55 am Link If they're not responding properly, maybe you should be asking those questions and make it clear that only those responding to the questions will be considered. If you are asking for those elements to be addressed in your casting and they're not, then you move on because the person clearly can't take instruction. Easy. Edit: You have 2 Castings right now for Gay Superheros and neither of them say anything about the things you have such a problem with models not addressing. Are you expecting models to reply with "I'm gay and I have seven Superman costumes!" Maybe the problem isn't the models. Oct 14 12 09:03 am Link sorry, i updated the post during your response...i think you'll find answers to things your raising in this new post Oct 14 12 09:26 am Link My thoughts are that if they just reply with "interested", they didn't read the call and/or aren't really interested. Oct 14 12 09:27 am Link exactly....and that's a problem if you're actually trying to be a model professionally Oct 14 12 09:36 am Link I am surely not condoning that behavior, but perhaps they are letting you know they are interested so you can view thier port. If you say you're looking for a certain model type and they are notifying you to SEE what they have to offer. Once you've done that you can make the further assessment on if you need to contact them further. I would expect a better more inclusive Q&A session would likely follow. I agree it is annoying to not have them ask the followup Q's right off the bat. It would definitely save time. Oct 14 12 09:46 am Link channing L M Photo wrote: Which presumes they actually want to model professionally (thus imply they want to "get somewhere w/n the industry") & aren't doing this as a means for a creative outlet. Oct 14 12 10:00 am Link 99% of the time I would totally ignore "interested" Keeps life simple, ya know? Oct 14 12 10:00 am Link channing L M Photo wrote: I'd bet you money most aren't trying to be professional... Just click next... Oct 14 12 10:18 am Link channing L M Photo wrote: I'm pretty verbose, and I'm amazed that you find something like that to be worth so much energy. Oct 14 12 10:34 am Link 'Interested' means that they want the gig. If questions need to be answered, photos sent, etc., that's a different story. I really see no need on having a 10-page dialogue with someone who wants to pay you to model unless they require specific information. Where, when, what and how much. Done. Oct 14 12 10:37 am Link They are interested and usually I am not. Sorry but if I request some msg. me in a casting and they don't I tend to ignore it. If they can't follow that simple instruction I doubt they can take direction on set. Oct 14 12 10:44 am Link AJScalzitti wrote: Exactly. Oct 14 12 10:45 am Link Replying to the "I'm interested" posts on the casting itself is annoying. 9 times out of 10 it does not result in a booking. But I still write a message anyway since that 10% chance could result in something good. Oct 14 12 10:45 am Link Interesting . . . Oct 14 12 10:45 am Link Photosam wrote: There are other ways to show that you want the gig. Oct 14 12 10:46 am Link Bengali wrote: If they can't or don't read the casting call, posting anything like Interested is a waste of time. I've seen people ask for a private message or email in their calls and someone still reply with Interested, as if... Oct 14 12 10:46 am Link I can see it now "OK that is perfect, now give me a more introspective look" "Well I am interested in giving you another expression" Oct 14 12 10:46 am Link GCobb Photography wrote: So the issue is not the one-word retort (which can be lame)... Oct 14 12 10:48 am Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Oct 14 12 10:48 am Link Photosam wrote: Oct 14 12 10:49 am Link Art of the nude wrote: Yeah. Oct 14 12 10:50 am Link Had someone reply to me just that way. I am interested. Gave her more info and never heard back. I agree, I'm not sure what the point is of writing "interested" or one sentence of the same ilk. Perhaps I'll reply the same way..... Oct 14 12 10:55 am Link I just assume they want me to look at their profile to see if I am interested in them. Oct 14 12 10:58 am Link JLC Images wrote: They assumed their time was worth more then yours... Oct 14 12 11:00 am Link When they put that.. theyre not "interested" enough to put forth the work. Therefore theyre not worth your time and energy. The models who do fill your requirements you specify deserve your time and the gigs. Oct 14 12 11:03 am Link AJScalzitti wrote: Precisely, but that also eliminates 90% of the resources on M.M.. Oct 14 12 11:05 am Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Exactly my thought, Oct 14 12 11:06 am Link Jules NYC wrote: Follow-thru is a key component in any endeavor as I am sure you realize. If this was 3-5 years ago, I'd say it was almost exclusively a case of self-entitlement where the 20-30-somethings are concerned but, these days, I see the same behavior in a variety of environments that range from social-business development and, people well over the age of 40. Basically, everyone thinks their shit doesn't stink and that they are irreplacable...they are wrong. Oct 14 12 11:08 am Link Autonomy II wrote: I agree. Oct 14 12 11:26 am Link Jules NYC wrote: Oct 14 12 11:35 am Link Jules NYC wrote: My perspectibve is: you can tell me my work sucks, you can tell me you are not interested but you cannot waste my time. Oct 14 12 11:36 am Link Autonomy II wrote: You know what is truly wasting time? Oct 14 12 11:43 am Link Jules NYC wrote: Anything that proves to be nonproductive and does not contribute to the fruitionof my effort IS a waste of my time...like my monkeying around on this thing, lol. Oct 14 12 11:46 am Link Interested. Oct 14 12 11:47 am Link P I X I E wrote: Oct 14 12 11:48 am Link JLC Images wrote: Bingo. ^^^^^^ channing L M Photo wrote: If you want to be a "professional" photographer (or anything for that matter) you may want to learn to deal with the reality that people usually do not respond exactly as you want them to. Also, starting asinine rants in the forums is not a good way to get your name out there. Oct 14 12 12:01 pm Link They responded, which let's me know they at least can fog a mirror and log on to MM, so if I'm interested in them I'll send an email. Not a big deal, I don't give a shit, and it's not like emails take that long to type. All that matters to me is that I find someone to work with that meets the requirements. Andrew Thomas Evans www.andrewthomasevans.com www.mplsfashion.com Oct 14 12 12:04 pm Link channing L M Photo wrote: I'm a dick, I'll move on if someone isn't replying in the time frame I want them to. Although I don't close the door on them completely or at all, but if it's urgent or important I may not have the time to wait on someone. I among others in this industry don’t believe in the idea of the “stupid” or “dumbfounded” model who just sits and looks pretty and has to have someone to wipe their ass when done on the toilet. To be honest; to be a good model is freaking hard work. people like to say that modeling is different from acting, and i’m here to correct that. It isn’t very different; we’re asking you to do the same thing, which is to act out a role that doesn’t necessarily match you’re own personality. The simple difference is that acting, in most situations, requires interaction and the capturing of this role in a time based medium, where as photography requires all of that to be in one frame. it is still acting in most senses of the word. Yes, yes, it is, you're wrong, wrong again, maybe, not really, kind of. I mean look a modeling shows on TV; look at Americas Next Top Model for goodness sake. There is a clear divide in the show between the models while on a shoot and the models while at home….and the part they really don’t show is that those women are smart as hell. you think they’re just sitting and being beautiful. No they’re studying all of the top model magazines in the country…in the world. you ask them for a certain look, the good ones can tell you what that look entails, and what each body movement tells their viewers. Modeling isn’t just siting there and being some stupid object….and until people entering the fashion/editorial industry know that….until models on model mayhem really know that…and until model mayhem promotes that as their statute of liberation…..that is professionalism….Model Mayhem will always be looked down upon as utterly amateur . Polite golf clap for mentioning antp in a rant. It’s great that your interested in what ever casting call that you reply to, but honestly we already know that. This is one of the reasons why model mayhem has the cheap, amateur reputation in the industry now, because people don’t think about simple things, such as submitting to a casting. Well, some models are part of the reason, the forums another, and the photographers on here are a reason as well. When you go to a live casting, you don’t just go in looking any type of way and say “i’m interested”…….everyone knows that the casting director might put you out. Look at your model mayhem profile…study your images and in comparison study images printed in fashion spreads. think about what about those images look good…….look at how the models are posing, think about the character they are playing. The castings I've been a part of the model really didn't say much at all. I also wouldn't suggest new models look at anything on MM to get examples of real world poses or stuff... So Lets get real with the mess, i’m not using model mayhem because I want to be an amateur, i’m using it because I want to expand my portfolio, my name as a photographer, and most importantly my professional skills. And the only way to do that is to hold yourself to a professional standard. A casting call on model mayhem is equivalent to a casting or an interview in real life. Your response is your practice in the game of professionalism. You're taking things way too seriously. Plus wouldn't a professional put ego aside and work with someone they want to work with, even if they just said "interested"? These are basic questions to answer right off the back when submitting to a casting call Huh? I'd assume all basic questions would be asked IN the casting call? The simple question to ask yourself, so as to not make a fool of yourself is “what will they want to know from me” because if your responding at all…we already know that you’re interested, what we really want to know is how can you be of help Oh? Can I learn about you? I'm a Photographer and Cinematographer. I've studied three years of photography while attending El Camino College. I'm currently Studying Photography, Cinematography, and animation at Otis College Of Art and Design. I will be graduating with a Bachelors of Fine Arts in 2013. So you're just out of school? Then you come on here telling everyone how things work and how to reply to things? Oct 14 12 12:22 pm Link tl;dr Oct 14 12 12:25 pm Link |