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Dear Shy Photographers!
Eurocat wrote: I agree, however if you're already nude they can't really undress you with their eyes anymore can they? Dec 08 12 09:31 am Link I've never had any problem along those lines, but I did have one model who had uncontrollable giggling fits any time I said "breast." When I asked her what the problem was, she said "you sound like a teacher when you talk about my titties." Ever since then, I've asked models up front whether they have any preference for body parts names. Dec 08 12 09:32 am Link :-) Dec 08 12 09:35 am Link BTHPhoto wrote: I think that's a great idea in general. I haven't shot nudes but I find that works well when I'm on a first date. Dec 08 12 09:54 am Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: Yeah. I think it has a bit different connotation in the context of arranging a nude photography session than it does in the context of a date. Dec 08 12 10:05 am Link ^^^  I am also a big fan when the photographer shows you where 'you can get changed.' Darlings, by the time you've finished your sentence, my clothes are off and I'm ready for light check!  Dec 08 12 10:08 am Link I am shy. I've not had to call any parts by their real names or furry ones. I can help models pose, but prefer if it comes naturally. Posed are not as good as fluid moving images IMO, and as said above somewhere, move into the light and have the light across your nipples would be easy to say. It doesn't change if I am shy or not, but gets the picture. My shyness would however stop me for asking exactly the style or pose I'd like to see. When I was young there was a book called *Everything you wanted to know about sex but were afraid to ask. Maybe there should be a book written called * Everything you wanted to know about shooting nudes but were afraid to ask. Your pictures are stellar. I think I dare say that comes from you, and even though you can do the posed pix well the ones where I see it is just pure raw beauty, those are speaking to me, far past my shyness will ever retrain me. Dec 08 12 10:09 am Link You're making me shy now. *blushes* Thank you, you are very kind. I'll look into the book thingy. That would be too funny. Dec 08 12 10:14 am Link I have no problems working with nude models (or being around nude women in general). I have, however, learned to avoid making assumptions about a model's comfort levels. In the beginning, I was always very respectful of models' personal space to the point of never even considering asking to make, for example, simple hair adjustments. I simply told them what I needed. After a couple of dozen shoots where the models almost always voluntarily told me they had no problems with me making hair adjustments myself, I relaxed and always asked to make the adjustments myself (and it was always apparent that it was no problem whatsoever). Almost every model appeared to have the attitude that I was just being overly cautions, so it got to the point that I began to take it for granted, though still always asking first. Then not too long ago, while shooting a very experienced model, I needed to adjust her hair and began to move towards her as I was asking if it was okay (having come to take it for granted that experienced models had no problem with it) and she said "no" in a pretty curt manner (and her body language made it clear that I was about to invade her space). It was ultimately no real problem, but it made me realize that even if 95 or 99% of nude models are comfortable with it - there ARE exceptions, and to treat everyone as an exception...until if and when I find out otherwise. Dec 08 12 10:32 am Link Touching ain't talking. Just saying.  Dec 08 12 11:30 am Link Eurocat wrote: I totally agree. It never even crossed my mind to even ask to do something as simple as move a clump of hair that was distracting in the shot...until pretty much every llama I shot with acted like I was being silly to worry about it. Dec 08 12 12:04 pm Link nnnnnniiiiiiippppples! there i said it! thanks for the therapy! Dec 08 12 12:13 pm Link (1) I ♥ this thread. (2) The only time I get nervous lately is if I don't clinically detach enough while making an erotic image. If I'm in the zone, no problem to say 'Lift the knees so I can see more crotch." But if my photog-hat slips and I'm enjoying the image too much, I start to feel like a GWC and I get awkward since I'm being internally scornful at myself. (3) Eurocat, thank you for this thread. Let's shoot! Dec 08 12 12:31 pm Link The first time I turned around and model was naked in front of me when it wasn't a nude shoot, I gasped and nearly inhaled my breath mint. Hard to be cool in front of a model when you're choking, but you shoulda seen me trying to play it off. All these years later, every time I see her, she makes gagging noises and giggles. Can't repeat my comebacks here. :^) Dec 08 12 12:45 pm Link Eurocat wrote: True, but here again, there are many different boundaries depending on many different circumstances. I've probably had as many models annoyed by retinence in touching to adjust as by retinence in describing body parts. I make it one of the many things to be discussed squarely and agreed to in the preshoot meeting. I'm a big believer in solving problems before they become problems. And even if you are one of those wonderful creatures that starts shedding clothes as they walk in the door, we'll still review the terms of the shoot, including all the boundaries, before the camera is turned on. Dec 08 12 02:10 pm Link the only time i touch a model is when she's uncapable of making the adjustments herself, like when i need to adjust her hair or move a leg and she doesn't know where to put it. No one really had a problem with it, one of my less experienced models got a little freaked when i grabbed her ankle to move it but she got over her uncomfortableness by the end. you gotta respect your models, let them define the boundariesDec 08 12 06:02 pm Link whoa Dec 08 12 06:16 pm Link I think most of us would rather err on the side of caution rather than offend but I'm much better at expressing what I want if I have already had the right conversation at the start of the shoot. I always make sure we've established what the boundaries are in terms of exposure, and I always tell the model that if I ask for anything they are not comfortable with than they are entitled to say no. I remember an early shoot with a lovely model (who was also new but very open-minded and cool). At one point I said to her "Oh you need to move your leg over otherwise I can see your p*ssy" (we were supposed to be doing implied) and I apologized and said "Is it ok to call it that?" She replied "Sure, I sometimes call it my c*nt". I guess I didn't have to worry after that. I do fondly remember the first time I asked a model if you would take off her bra now (different model) and she did so willingly. Still makes me smile lol. Dec 08 12 06:24 pm Link Eurocat wrote: Book "thingy"? Really, young lady! There is a proper name for it, you know? Dec 08 12 06:38 pm Link Eurocat, thank you for this interesting and entertaining thread! I haven't stopped laughing for five minutes now Personally, I usually don't have occasion to use any of those terms. If I do, I just say boobs or crotch or nipple, followed by "unless you call them something else?" Then she usually laughs and says 'boobs is fine'. Dec 08 12 09:07 pm Link I have adult ADD, I naturally stutter or get distracted by something shiny very easily. Dec 08 12 09:34 pm Link Cody Deasy Photography wrote: Welcome to my life. Dec 09 12 05:41 am Link Eurocat wrote: Dec 09 12 05:44 am Link Yes please. And sorry I flashed y'all. Dec 09 12 09:37 pm Link Eurocat wrote: I feel your pain. Dec 10 12 10:19 am Link Hahaha...yeah I get so quiet sometimes. You ladies are just so damn beautiful, photographing you takes a lot of concentration and self control. Thank You for your nekkidness:) Dec 10 12 10:27 am Link I have made a living talking women out of their clothes... I have almost never had to refer to any specific body part except in terms of left or right. With that said... I still get flustered or nervous every time I look up from the easel when I am not painting. Dec 10 12 12:43 pm Link Fernon II wrote: Dec 10 12 03:39 pm Link Good lord, I'm embarrassed jest readin' this post . . .  SOS Dec 11 12 08:05 am Link Eurocat wrote: Funny and forward Eurocat. Lol But I think the key word here is "hobbyist". Dec 11 12 08:13 am Link VisiFoto wrote: Now that's a sad state of affairs... Dec 11 12 08:17 am Link PIEntertainment wrote: Generally if you just discuss shooting nudes with a model they'll say the name they use for Dec 11 12 08:21 am Link Image Magik wrote: Bingo. Dec 11 12 02:59 pm Link Image Magik wrote: N..not always the case. Nude is nude. I mean when you tell me nude, I assume completely, utterly and totally buttnekkid. So there's no need to mention particlar body parts. Just yet. Dec 11 12 03:00 pm Link I am not shy. But I show respect and keep professional. Dec 11 12 05:09 pm Link Eurocat wrote: I recently photographed models flashing. Dec 11 12 05:14 pm Link M A R A S O N wrote: me too!!! Dec 11 12 05:16 pm Link I was shy like that when i first started, but the more I've shot I no longer worry about it, just use appropriate terms, get the shot you want and move on. We're all adults and professionals lol. The only time it was super awkward for me was when I had to tell a model to hide her tampon string while shooting figure work >_< But hey you live and you learn Dec 12 12 10:15 am Link Eurocat wrote: Camerosity wrote: No no no. Your OTHER No. 7. Dec 12 12 03:14 pm Link simple solution , just whisper to the makeup artist what you want and let her blurt it out or make adjustments ........ easier , less intrusive and insted of shy you come off as thoughtful and professional . ( Or in worse case the MUA takes the fall ) LOL Dec 13 12 06:02 pm Link |
