Forums > Model Colloquy > Does photographer need to provide meal for model?

Photographer

JAE

Posts: 2207

West Chester, Pennsylvania, US

I bring water to every shoot.  I also ask the model before the shoot if there is anything they prefer to snack on.  If they want anything I pick it up and bring it to the shoot.  The first couple of shoots I did I brought a few things and models never ate it, so that's why I ask ahead of time now tongue

Jan 29 13 05:42 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

No, it would not be reasonable for a model to expect you to provide a meal unless that's what the two of you had agreed in advance.

Jan 29 13 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

Cameracamera

Posts: 65

Abbeville, Alabama, US

I always offer a sandwich & some juice, usually half way thru a shoot.

Jan 29 13 05:55 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Harris Photography

Posts: 526

Metuchen, New Jersey, US

I always have bottled water and some kind of snack. Lately, just to be on the safe side, the snack is usually gluten free vegan cookies.

Jan 29 13 05:59 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

I always have food in my house and coffee. So, do you have to, no. I always offer something. Hospitality goes a long way in making people comfortable.

Jan 29 13 05:59 pm Link

Photographer

All Yours Photography

Posts: 2731

Lawton, Oklahoma, US

-The Dave- wrote:
I take them to chuck e cheese after the shoot. smile

You had me worried for a minute there, but I checked your port and didn't see any models that appeared to be 10 years old.

Jan 29 13 06:05 pm Link

Photographer

KMP

Posts: 4834

Houston, Texas, US

money_train wrote:
during the short/long short,

Does photographer need to provide meal for model?

I treat models like any guest to my studio. They are afforded drinks, snacks and meals if I feel it's appropriate.  Shoots that span lunch/dinner will normally include meals.  Shoots that start early in the morning, will have coffee, fruit, drinks and various breakfast snacks.  At most shoots I have water, snacks and sodas available for all.
Sometimes I like a little caffeinated soda in the after to give me an energy boost.

Jan 29 13 06:17 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Cynna Stylz MUA

Posts: 217

New York, New York, US

Have a small platter available. Chewing gum, 1/2 banana, 4 rolls of turkey slices, baby croissants, water, coffee and RED BULL.
For the MUA.... bucket of chicken, Pineapple Pizza, 4 Hershey bars, baby croissants, water, coffee and RED BULL.
......You don't have to over do it.

Jan 29 13 06:21 pm Link

Model

Kitty Devereux

Posts: 67

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

I would never expect a meal, I would expect a heads up on whether to bring my own snack/food etc. But usually I just pack a snack and drink just incase. I am a bit of a caffeine fiend ahah!

Jan 29 13 06:24 pm Link

Photographer

KC King

Posts: 850

Brea, California, US

I always have something for my models... They're all stoners they have the munchies!!

Jan 29 13 06:26 pm Link

Model

Christie Gabriel

Posts: 2804

Chicago, Illinois, US

I always come prepared with my own snacks and water, but I have almost never done a shoot over 2 hours long where the photographer or client didn't offer at least a small meal. Maybe I'm just spoiled wink

Jan 29 13 06:43 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Models.....Hell I will even accept a Happy Meal!!! lol

Jan 29 13 06:45 pm Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

Mi casa es su casa. You can have anything in the fridge you want. And if you're here all day I will offer to take you to dinner, this goes for any guest.

Jan 29 13 06:52 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

its really a courtesy that can extend either way

Jan 29 13 06:57 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

Whatever the length of the shoot I always have something to eat and drink, even if it's just some fruit or nuts and bottled water.  If I know the model will eat, or if the shoot is likely to last more than 3 or 4 hours, I usually have somethng more substantial available.

Jan 29 13 07:23 pm Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1453

Fremont, California, US

"a fed crew is a happy crew"
-Chase Jarvis

I don't want unhappy people working for me. It taints the results.

Jan 30 13 01:38 am Link

Photographer

Studio MD - Casting

Posts: 1227

Los Angeles, California, US

As you work more you'll learn the proper etiquette:
The person producing the shoot is usually the person responsible for taking care of the crew.
Even on short shoots, the producer should have snacks and beverages available to take care of the people working on their production.

BUT it's not mandatory and everyone has to work within their own limitations and expectations.

Jan 30 13 01:45 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

I do catering or offer lots of snacks if I am having a team working on a shoot that lasts for over 4 hours  but that's because I might get hungry too and I'm not going to start eating in front of others  while they are starving that is just not nice.

Jan 30 13 05:37 am Link

Model

Aylin Marie

Posts: 79

Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

I tend to pack some snacks like crackers, fruit bars and sultanas. Nothing too filling as to cause a bit of a belly ;p This is great if I have to travel a lil bit to location, on shorter shoots I don't expect much and hopefully be freely able to ask for water haha long ones I've had photogs say bring a light lunch or ask me what I eat.. Keep heavy foods till after, I know they make me sluggish and bloated. Have a cracker and fruit plate out... And yes plenty of water... 
I've had shoots at my place and I've offered snacks and dinner.

Jan 30 13 05:50 am Link

Photographer

Birds of Stones

Posts: 583

Greenville, South Carolina, US

If its a  long shoot (over 3 or 4 hours) I will offer to order out. Normally pizza.
and I almost always have V8 and coke on hand.

Jan 30 13 05:59 am Link

Photographer

DG at studio47

Posts: 2365

East Ridge, Tennessee, US

Part of my standard "instructions" for models was that they eat before they arrive for a shoot. However, I always kept non perishable snacks and an assortment of drinks as well as bottled water in the studio. My advantage was that most of my work was studio, and the studio was in my house. with a BG in medicine, I always ask if the model was diabetic, hypoglycemic, etc. I had one model feel faint and have to sit down during a shoot. her GF escort then told me that the model had not eaten anything for 2 days! I had worked with that model many times and never had that issue before. go figure.
At the request of two models [drag queens] I started a shoot at 11:00 pm once. we shot until about 0400 the next morning and I took everyone to the waffle house for breakfast--in drag--in the bible belt. it was quite an adventure.

Jan 30 13 06:03 am Link

Photographer

DG at studio47

Posts: 2365

East Ridge, Tennessee, US

BTW--add "fetching food" to your list of things for escorts to do.

Jan 30 13 06:04 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Christie Gabriel wrote:
I always come prepared with my own snacks and water, but I have almost never done a shoot over 2 hours long where the photographer or client didn't offer at least a small meal. Maybe I'm just spoiled wink

I have no problem offering a model a meal after a long shoot.

Jan 30 13 06:15 am Link

Photographer

1113

Posts: 17

Berlin, Berlin, Germany

If over 4 hours I provide food. I usually have a bunch of deli trays with fruits, crackers, cheeses available. When the shoot is over sometimes we may have champagne as we review photos or a cocktail. The alcohol is only with models I have built a strong rapport with, though.

Jan 30 13 06:21 am Link

Photographer

L Cowles Photography

Posts: 833

Sun City West, Arizona, US

I generally try to start my shoots (studio) after lunch.  If I have a long shoot, I will provide a break for snacks or sandwiches.  I think in the long run you get better images toward the end of the shoot if you make sure they get fuel.

Jan 30 13 06:23 am Link

Photographer

brian selway

Posts: 54

Leicester, England, United Kingdom

I just get some doughnuts in on shoot days, what the models don't eat...I do. Gotta love disciplined fitness models who'd rather munch away on some dry brown stuff from their zip-lock bags!!!

Jan 30 13 06:24 am Link

Photographer

Ralph Easy

Posts: 6426

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

money_train wrote:
Does photographer need to provide meal for model?

Whoever called the casting call: whether photographer, model, MUA, creative director or producer.

Generosity is still alive and well on planet Earth...

.

Jan 30 13 06:30 am Link

Photographer

Bravoscape

Posts: 259

Frederick, Maryland, US

No. It's a job and any other job wouldn't provide you a free lunch.

That said, I generally try to provide snacks and drinks as a courtesy - and I usually ask what is preferred prior to the shoot.

Jan 30 13 06:32 am Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

I provide hot and cold drinks (tea/coffee and bottled water) for my TFP shoots but that's all as they usually run from 13.00-17.00.

If it's a pay-shooting where you the photographer have contracted the model, the rules change slightly as the model is effectively your employee for the duration - no matter how much some photographers seem to overlook this. You are required by law to provide rest and meal-breaks (but not the actual food, unless you're feeling generous). Most models bring their own bottled water and energy bars or something.
If the client has provided the models, the onus is on him/her.

On a location-shoot miles from shops etc. where you'd bring food for yourself, it would be churlish not to provide something though and all (pay) studio shoots that I've been a part of lasting longer than a half-day have always had a cold buffet, tea & coffee or similar provided.

Jan 30 13 07:04 am Link

Photographer

Caveman Creations

Posts: 580

Addison, Texas, US

This has been quite interesting. I've been wondering just how a nice Bar-B-Que dinner would equal rates. We can shoot, my wife can prepare everything, the brisket can be smoking while all this goes on, and after, we eat! BUT, the model would probably have to take the leftovers!

Jan 30 13 07:24 am Link

Photographer

Art Silva

Posts: 10064

Santa Barbara, California, US

Happy Meals always works big_smile

Jan 30 13 07:27 am Link

Photographer

LMG Images

Posts: 692

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I will usually offer a snack if a model seems like he or she is fading.

Normally, I don't shoot long periods of time.  In longer cases, we do stop and eat every so often just like we would if we were out as friends.

However if there is a team and it's been a long day, I will usually bring in something like pizza or sandwiches. . .doesn't matter.

I don't consider it romance.  I consider it common courtesy and treating models like they are people with needs.

Jan 30 13 07:33 am Link

Photographer

Bobby C

Posts: 2696

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

Jan 30 13 07:36 am Link

Model

Rachel in GR

Posts: 1656

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

In my experience, beverages and light snacks are usually provided during professional shoots, whether they span a few hours or an entire day. However, I also know to bring my own snacks, as I'm somewhat picky about what I eat, and I know not to depend on others for my needs, whenever I can help it. Besides, there are plenty of people who don't provide food, and I think it's rude to expect that of them, especially if it's an amateur or TF shoot.

It's always a nice bonus to be provided food during, or especially after, a shoot, but that's just what it is--a bonus. The only thing I'd really expect to be provided/available at a shoot would be clean water--as in, I don't want to share a water bottle with anyone else on the shoot, unless EVERYONE is using an individual cup. That's just common sense to me.

Jan 30 13 08:00 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

One burger and one burger only, sharing is caring.


https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111026/13/4ea86cf6e87db.jpg

Jan 30 13 08:12 am Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12117

Tampa, Florida, US

Bravoscape wrote:
No. It's a job and any other job wouldn't provide you a free lunch.

That said, I generally try to provide snacks and drinks as a courtesy - and I usually ask what is preferred prior to the shoot.

Creative jobs seem to be a little more generous with that. I've worked for 2 ad agencies that both provided lunch at least once or twice a week and healthy snacks and drinks were always available. Plus, printers and other vendors would bring bagels and pastries so the places were overflowing with food.

Of course, from a business standpoint, it's not a bad idea. Employee doesn't waste an hour out of the office and their work prodcution doesn't get interrupted.

Jan 30 13 08:17 am Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12117

Tampa, Florida, US

K E E L I N G wrote:
One burger and one burger only, sharing is caring.

I'd knock the bitch out for a White Castle burger.

Jan 30 13 08:18 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:

I'd knock the bitch out for a White Castle burger.

You're preaching to the choir.  wink

Jan 30 13 08:20 am Link

Photographer

Hugh Alison

Posts: 2125

Aberystwyth, Wales, United Kingdom

I always do.

If they've had a long train ride, I stop by MacDonalds on the way back from collecting them. Surprising how many skinny chicks can tuck away a 1/4 pounder, and not show it.

A hungry, tired model isn't much use.

Cultures vary.
Canada is a bit more European than the US, Quebec even more so.

Jan 30 13 08:33 am Link

Photographer

DevilMayCare Photo

Posts: 431

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

I usually suggest a quick bite after the shoot - a lot of llamas don't eat day of (which I'm opposed to) and it gives an opportunity to let them go through the pix and just decompress. I'm a charming conversationalist and it's common knowledge that all food has fewer calories if you have a meal companion, so it's win-win.

Some say that level of casualness is unprofessional, some say not offering is unprofessional, some say offering is unprofessional... I figure if I'm being a nice guy, that's all the professional I need. Life's too short.

Jan 30 13 09:17 am Link