Forums >
Model Colloquy >
Does photographer need to provide meal for model?
I bring water to every shoot. I also ask the model before the shoot if there is anything they prefer to snack on. If they want anything I pick it up and bring it to the shoot. The first couple of shoots I did I brought a few things and models never ate it, so that's why I ask ahead of time now Jan 29 13 05:42 pm Link No, it would not be reasonable for a model to expect you to provide a meal unless that's what the two of you had agreed in advance. Jan 29 13 05:51 pm Link I always offer a sandwich & some juice, usually half way thru a shoot. Jan 29 13 05:55 pm Link I always have bottled water and some kind of snack. Lately, just to be on the safe side, the snack is usually gluten free vegan cookies. Jan 29 13 05:59 pm Link I always have food in my house and coffee. So, do you have to, no. I always offer something. Hospitality goes a long way in making people comfortable. Jan 29 13 05:59 pm Link -The Dave- wrote: You had me worried for a minute there, but I checked your port and didn't see any models that appeared to be 10 years old. Jan 29 13 06:05 pm Link money_train wrote: I treat models like any guest to my studio. They are afforded drinks, snacks and meals if I feel it's appropriate. Shoots that span lunch/dinner will normally include meals. Shoots that start early in the morning, will have coffee, fruit, drinks and various breakfast snacks. At most shoots I have water, snacks and sodas available for all. Jan 29 13 06:17 pm Link Have a small platter available. Chewing gum, 1/2 banana, 4 rolls of turkey slices, baby croissants, water, coffee and RED BULL. For the MUA.... bucket of chicken, Pineapple Pizza, 4 Hershey bars, baby croissants, water, coffee and RED BULL. ......You don't have to over do it. Jan 29 13 06:21 pm Link I would never expect a meal, I would expect a heads up on whether to bring my own snack/food etc. But usually I just pack a snack and drink just incase. I am a bit of a caffeine fiend ahah! Jan 29 13 06:24 pm Link I always have something for my models... They're all stoners they have the munchies!! Jan 29 13 06:26 pm Link I always come prepared with my own snacks and water, but I have almost never done a shoot over 2 hours long where the photographer or client didn't offer at least a small meal. Maybe I'm just spoiled Jan 29 13 06:43 pm Link Models.....Hell I will even accept a Happy Meal!!! lol Jan 29 13 06:45 pm Link Mi casa es su casa. You can have anything in the fridge you want. And if you're here all day I will offer to take you to dinner, this goes for any guest. Jan 29 13 06:52 pm Link its really a courtesy that can extend either way Jan 29 13 06:57 pm Link Whatever the length of the shoot I always have something to eat and drink, even if it's just some fruit or nuts and bottled water. If I know the model will eat, or if the shoot is likely to last more than 3 or 4 hours, I usually have somethng more substantial available. Jan 29 13 07:23 pm Link "a fed crew is a happy crew" -Chase Jarvis I don't want unhappy people working for me. It taints the results. Jan 30 13 01:38 am Link As you work more you'll learn the proper etiquette: The person producing the shoot is usually the person responsible for taking care of the crew. Even on short shoots, the producer should have snacks and beverages available to take care of the people working on their production. BUT it's not mandatory and everyone has to work within their own limitations and expectations. Jan 30 13 01:45 am Link I do catering or offer lots of snacks if I am having a team working on a shoot that lasts for over 4 hours but that's because I might get hungry too and I'm not going to start eating in front of others while they are starving that is just not nice. Jan 30 13 05:37 am Link I tend to pack some snacks like crackers, fruit bars and sultanas. Nothing too filling as to cause a bit of a belly ;p This is great if I have to travel a lil bit to location, on shorter shoots I don't expect much and hopefully be freely able to ask for water haha long ones I've had photogs say bring a light lunch or ask me what I eat.. Keep heavy foods till after, I know they make me sluggish and bloated. Have a cracker and fruit plate out... And yes plenty of water... I've had shoots at my place and I've offered snacks and dinner. Jan 30 13 05:50 am Link If its a long shoot (over 3 or 4 hours) I will offer to order out. Normally pizza. and I almost always have V8 and coke on hand. Jan 30 13 05:59 am Link Part of my standard "instructions" for models was that they eat before they arrive for a shoot. However, I always kept non perishable snacks and an assortment of drinks as well as bottled water in the studio. My advantage was that most of my work was studio, and the studio was in my house. with a BG in medicine, I always ask if the model was diabetic, hypoglycemic, etc. I had one model feel faint and have to sit down during a shoot. her GF escort then told me that the model had not eaten anything for 2 days! I had worked with that model many times and never had that issue before. go figure. At the request of two models [drag queens] I started a shoot at 11:00 pm once. we shot until about 0400 the next morning and I took everyone to the waffle house for breakfast--in drag--in the bible belt. it was quite an adventure. Jan 30 13 06:03 am Link BTW--add "fetching food" to your list of things for escorts to do. Jan 30 13 06:04 am Link Christie Gabriel wrote: I have no problem offering a model a meal after a long shoot. Jan 30 13 06:15 am Link If over 4 hours I provide food. I usually have a bunch of deli trays with fruits, crackers, cheeses available. When the shoot is over sometimes we may have champagne as we review photos or a cocktail. The alcohol is only with models I have built a strong rapport with, though. Jan 30 13 06:21 am Link I generally try to start my shoots (studio) after lunch. If I have a long shoot, I will provide a break for snacks or sandwiches. I think in the long run you get better images toward the end of the shoot if you make sure they get fuel. Jan 30 13 06:23 am Link I just get some doughnuts in on shoot days, what the models don't eat...I do. Gotta love disciplined fitness models who'd rather munch away on some dry brown stuff from their zip-lock bags!!! Jan 30 13 06:24 am Link money_train wrote: Whoever called the casting call: whether photographer, model, MUA, creative director or producer. Jan 30 13 06:30 am Link No. It's a job and any other job wouldn't provide you a free lunch. That said, I generally try to provide snacks and drinks as a courtesy - and I usually ask what is preferred prior to the shoot. Jan 30 13 06:32 am Link I provide hot and cold drinks (tea/coffee and bottled water) for my TFP shoots but that's all as they usually run from 13.00-17.00. If it's a pay-shooting where you the photographer have contracted the model, the rules change slightly as the model is effectively your employee for the duration - no matter how much some photographers seem to overlook this. You are required by law to provide rest and meal-breaks (but not the actual food, unless you're feeling generous). Most models bring their own bottled water and energy bars or something. If the client has provided the models, the onus is on him/her. On a location-shoot miles from shops etc. where you'd bring food for yourself, it would be churlish not to provide something though and all (pay) studio shoots that I've been a part of lasting longer than a half-day have always had a cold buffet, tea & coffee or similar provided. Jan 30 13 07:04 am Link This has been quite interesting. I've been wondering just how a nice Bar-B-Que dinner would equal rates. We can shoot, my wife can prepare everything, the brisket can be smoking while all this goes on, and after, we eat! BUT, the model would probably have to take the leftovers! Jan 30 13 07:24 am Link Happy Meals always works Jan 30 13 07:27 am Link I will usually offer a snack if a model seems like he or she is fading. Normally, I don't shoot long periods of time. In longer cases, we do stop and eat every so often just like we would if we were out as friends. However if there is a team and it's been a long day, I will usually bring in something like pizza or sandwiches. . .doesn't matter. I don't consider it romance. I consider it common courtesy and treating models like they are people with needs. Jan 30 13 07:33 am Link Jan 30 13 07:36 am Link In my experience, beverages and light snacks are usually provided during professional shoots, whether they span a few hours or an entire day. However, I also know to bring my own snacks, as I'm somewhat picky about what I eat, and I know not to depend on others for my needs, whenever I can help it. Besides, there are plenty of people who don't provide food, and I think it's rude to expect that of them, especially if it's an amateur or TF shoot. It's always a nice bonus to be provided food during, or especially after, a shoot, but that's just what it is--a bonus. The only thing I'd really expect to be provided/available at a shoot would be clean water--as in, I don't want to share a water bottle with anyone else on the shoot, unless EVERYONE is using an individual cup. That's just common sense to me. Jan 30 13 08:00 am Link One burger and one burger only, sharing is caring. Jan 30 13 08:12 am Link Bravoscape wrote: Creative jobs seem to be a little more generous with that. I've worked for 2 ad agencies that both provided lunch at least once or twice a week and healthy snacks and drinks were always available. Plus, printers and other vendors would bring bagels and pastries so the places were overflowing with food. Jan 30 13 08:17 am Link K E E L I N G wrote: I'd knock the bitch out for a White Castle burger. Jan 30 13 08:18 am Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: You're preaching to the choir. Jan 30 13 08:20 am Link I always do. If they've had a long train ride, I stop by MacDonalds on the way back from collecting them. Surprising how many skinny chicks can tuck away a 1/4 pounder, and not show it. A hungry, tired model isn't much use. Cultures vary. Canada is a bit more European than the US, Quebec even more so. Jan 30 13 08:33 am Link I usually suggest a quick bite after the shoot - a lot of llamas don't eat day of (which I'm opposed to) and it gives an opportunity to let them go through the pix and just decompress. I'm a charming conversationalist and it's common knowledge that all food has fewer calories if you have a meal companion, so it's win-win. Some say that level of casualness is unprofessional, some say not offering is unprofessional, some say offering is unprofessional... I figure if I'm being a nice guy, that's all the professional I need. Life's too short. Jan 30 13 09:17 am Link |