Guss W wrote:
I'll bet there are a lot of people in LA who would be happy to give him a hiding spot.

How do people keep their sanity in an insane environment?

lol

you ask this living in FL???

rfordphotos wrote:
Two wrongs certainly dont make a right...... If LAPD is still guilty of the institutional criminal behavior he claims they are guilty of, there are MANY ways to ultimately bring those crimes to light. I am sure they dont happen fast enough, and I wish they didnt need to happen at all, but corruption is part(sadly) of being human....power nearly always tempts those with it......it takes EXCEPTIONAL folks to have a lot of power, and yet not abuse it.

Again, I don't condone it AT ALL.  As you say, two wrongs don't make a right.  And nobody has a right to just go out and kill another person for their grievances, even in revenge.  But a lack of justice or any way to address legitimate grievances will come out sideways sooner or later. 

What's so troubling to me about these allegations is that if a national event like the Rodney King Riots didn't make real, substantive change within an organization like the LAPD...what the fuck will?  If true, the LAPD is a racist organization that's truly out of control and answerable to no one. 

That's a serious and problem.

T wrote:

The man looks nothing like a woman. WTF?

wow...finally saw the back of the pickup truck.  They lit it up!!  Those women are LUCKY!!

Christopher Hartman wrote:

wow...finally saw the back of the pickup truck.  They lit it up!!  Those women are LUCKY!!

That's so ridiculous!

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
Again, I don't condone it AT ALL.  As you say, two wrongs don't make a right.  And nobody has a right to just go out and kill another person for their grievances, even in revenge.  But a lack of justice or any way to address legitimate grievances will come out sideways sooner or later. 

What's so troubling to me about these allegations is that if a national event like the Rodney King Riots didn't make real, substantive change within an organization like the LAPD...what the fuck will?  If true, the LAPD is a racist organization that's truly out of control and answerable to no one. 

That's a serious and problem.

Several major police departments are operating under the US Justice Dept supervision right now. Near me, Oakland PD is still trying to come into compliance after YEARS of DOJ supervision. It is a sad comment on our society.

No one in their right mind would deny something more need to be done.

No one in their right mind thinks this is the way to solve the problem.

Guss W wrote:
I'll bet there are a lot of people in LA who would be happy to give him a hiding spot.

How do people keep their sanity in an insane environment?

Well, it is interesting that he went to great lengths to point out that his enemy was the LAPD and not the people. In ancity like LA, that was sure to get some people's attention. I remember in a movie a police officer is chasing a suspect through the projects and as the suspect runs past a bunch of guys standing around, the minute the other guys see the cop they start throwing things at him. It's a movie and was done as a part of the movie's humor but it was believable in a way.

As an LAPD cop he probably came in contact with a number of cop haters who've wanted to shoot a cop. He's now a hero to them. I think they'd hide him for sure. And probably provide him with better arms than the cops have.

Guss W wrote:

And the police are withholding details.

Alternate link, seems to have additional details: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/0 … y-mistake/

UPDATE: Authorities have confirmed a truck found burning in the San Bernardino Mountains belongs to Christopher Dorner.

A local law enforcement source said the truck, found near Big Bear Lake, is the one police across California have been searching for.

Authorities believe Dorner is somewhere in the mountains nearby.

Guests at a Big Bear ski resort were told to stay in their rooms for time being.

A local website in Big Bear reported a strike team was in place and a command post was being set up.

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
I wonder, however, if this guy might not have had someone drive his truck up there. I mean, maybe he is going to go guerrilla-style in the mountains but on the other hand maybe he's in Watts waiting for them to look elsewhere before he does something else.

Had that thought myself.  Of course whoever provided the diversion will be caught by a very unhappy LAPD.  Not sure you could get someone to throw themselves on the sacrificial alter like that.

Lohkee wrote:
I dunno. He's a soldier and appears to be in very good shape. He could cover a **lot** of ground on foot . . . . .

Given the level of premeditation I wouldn't be surprised if he had a spot out there and booby traps. I hope I'm wrong and he just panicked and they get him soon.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
Had that thought myself.  Of course whoever provided the diversion will be caught by a very unhappy LAPD.  Not sure you could get someone to throw themselves on the sacrificial alter like that.

What would be the crime though? “Driving the Vehicle of a Suspect of a Manhunt Outside of the Manhunt Area”?

Like, I'm not trying to ridicule the idea you've put forth only commenting on how precarious that would be for the LAPD. I mean, of course it would seem to be aiding a criminal but what if its some car theif who hates cops? What if it was a teen? How, then, do they prove that it isn't some kids trying to play real-life Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas?

Somehow I thought I saw on the news that he left that vehicle at a specific place and evaded police on foot (I was watching someplace that was loud and the captioning was on so some details are muddled to me).

Andialu wrote:

Given the level of ore-meditation I wouldn't be surprised if he had a spot out there and booby traps. I hope I'm wrong and he just panicked and they get him soon.

he's probably not even there.

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
Like, I'm not trying to ridicule the idea you've put forth only commenting on how precarious that would be for the LAPD. I mean, of course it would seem to be aiding a criminal but what if its some car theif who hates cops? What if it was a teen? How, then, do they prove that it isn't some kids trying to play real-life Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas?

No offence at the criticism.  I don't have much of a criminal mind.  I was just thinking about how trigger happy they are just this minute...

T wrote:

he's probably not even there.

If he can get away with being there to light his truck on fire AND be able to get out of the area, he is as good as he says he is. There aren't a lot of ways out of that area.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
No offence at the criticism.  I don't have much of a criminal mind.  I was just thinking about how trigger happy they are just this minute...

Ha!

You have to wonder though: presumably the truck was found abandoned and if they didn't get eyewitness reports of him leaving the vehicle (I mean, they could have and they just haven't told the public that) then they're doing the whole manhunt thing with the distinct possibility that he's not anywhere in the vicinity. He would have to know that they'd do that because he was a cop and he's had time to think this entire thing through.

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:
Sad situation.

Will there be any lessons learned from this?

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no.  They seem to never learn any lessons from it.

Select llamas wrote:
Police just located his burned out truck in Big Bear, and are towing it away.  Road blocks are checking departing vehicles for occupants.

what makes them think that he's still in the area? they found the truck already burned out, this means he had plenty of time to move to another location  in different transportation.    he must be tired with no sleep, and provably not enough food,  he will wait for the darkness to make another move, or attack. he is Right now in a guerrilla mode, and will no surrender until he has accomplish his mission "in his mind"

If he stay in big Bear tonight he's gonna have a hell of a night, with the Low  temperatures  in the early hours of the day.

365 Digitals Exposed wrote:

what makes them think that he's still in the area? they found the truck already burned out, this means he had plenty of time to move to another location  in different transportation.    he must be tired with no sleep, and provably not enough food,  he will wait for the darkness to make another move, or attack. he is Right now in a guerrilla mode, and will no surrender until he has accomplish his mission "in his mind"

If he stay in big Bear tonight he's gonna have a hell of a night, with the Low  temperatures  in the early hours of the day.

That's my hometown. The car was reported very early this morning, around 8, and was burned then. Highway 38 is closed due to the bus crash two days ago, and there are still about 4 ways down off that mountain, not all of the easy to get down, or around, and highly covered in forest. I hope he leaves Big Bear if he isn't already gone. I don't know any reason to think or not to thing he is there still, but I do know from 18 years of living there, that there are plenty of places to hide out not far from people, that most don't even know exist. Even with low temperatures, with the correct gear (which he probably has) wouldn't be even that bad.

Lela Jesse wrote:
That's my hometown. The car was reported very early this morning, around 8, and was burned then. Highway 38 is closed due to the bus crash two days ago, and there are still about 4 ways down off that mountain, not all of the easy to get down, or around, and highly covered in forest. I hope he leaves Big Bear if he isn't already gone. I don't know any reason to think or not to thing he is there still, but I do know from 18 years of living there, that there are plenty of places to hide out not far from people, that most don't even know exist. Even with low temperatures, with the correct gear (which he probably has) wouldn't be even that bad.

wow coming from people whom know the area is pretty to know there's places to hide  that could be of   great danger for police officers not familiar with the area.

By the way confirm the burned out Pick up truck  found belongs to  Dorner this mean he is no longer moving  in the same vehicle.   This is crazy.

365 Digitals Exposed wrote:
wow coming from people whom know the area is pretty to know there's places to hide  that could be of   great danger for police officers not familiar with the area.

By the way confirm the burned out Pick up truck  found belongs to  Dorner this mean he is no longer moving  in the same vehicle.   This is crazy.

Its very very scary. I'm quite concerned for the safety of all involved. I'm hope than no more harm comes to anyone else.

T wrote:
This dude has (had) a damn good head on his shoulders. I can't help but to think that he was highly inspired by...



Not against whites per say, but against those he feels has wronged him. (he even mentioned the movie in his manifesto) but hell, he talked about everything.


What a story!

You seem smitten.

Tonic Dog Studios wrote:

You seem smitten.

This isn't SB. Don't be...... yourself.

Tonic Dog Studios wrote:

You seem smitten.

You seemed confused and misguided.

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
This is just unreal.

There are probably people in Hollywood already writing this movie and already thinking of casting choices.

I hate to say it but it's one of the first things I thought of.

T wrote:
This dude has (had) a damn good head on his shoulders. I can't help but to think that he was highly inspired by...



Not against whites per say, but against those he feels has wronged him. (he even mentioned the movie in his manifesto) but hell, he talked about everything.


What a story!

I heard an interview with one of his teammates from college football. He said that the guy would always call out people who were being unfair or unjust.

T wrote:



You seemed confused and misguided.

Just looking at your posts in this thread.  If that is not the correct emotion you have about this guy with “a damn good head on his shoulders” I will retract.