Jerry Nemeth wrote:
I have looked at D7100 photo samples.  The D7100 is 12 bit NEF.

No way is the D7100 NOT going to have a 14-bit mode...Nikon's not going to go backwards on that!

Even the D5200 has 14-bit mode, and while the D7100's sensor is not the same one as in the D5200...NO WAY would they not offer 14-bit in a more expensive model!!

(...I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer 16 MP 14-bit to 24 MP 12-bit...)

Found a 14-bit NEF sample taken with D7100 (from dpreview):

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/ … peg?v=1955
 
(you can click on the image once you bring it up to see an enlarged version)

Take a look at this image - it's pretty amazing!

Jerry Nemeth wrote:

I have looked at D7100 photo samples.  The D7100 is 12 bit NEF.

It offers 12-bit or 14-bit with compressed or lossless compressed. The uncompressed option is gone.

I have always used 14-bit lossless compressed with the D300.

Robb Mann wrote:
Again; d7100 body = $1200. D600 body =$2000. Obsolete D300s body=$1700.

You really think Nikon will leave an eight hundred dollar gap in their lineup?

I thought the D7100 was $1599.

nvm...Nikon lists $1199.  Carry on.

Gary Melton wrote:

No way is the D7100 NOT going to have a 14-bit mode...Nikon's not going to go backwards on that!

Even the D5200 has 14-bit mode, and while the D7100's sensor is not the same one as in the D5200...NO WAY would they not offer 14-bit in a more expensive model!!

(...I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer 16 MP 14-bit to 24 MP 12-bit...)

Found a 14-bit NEF sample taken with D7100 (from dpreview):

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/ … peg?v=1955
 
(you can click on it to see enlarged version)

(Take a look at this image - pretty amazing!)

This is puzzling.  On the Nikon website it says both 12 and 14 bit.

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d7100/sample.htm

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
This is puzzling.  On the Nikon website it says both 12 and 14 bit.

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d7100/sample.htm

What's to be puzzled about?  You can select 12-bit OR 14-bit mode, just like you can with the D7000 and D300s (just to give 2 examples).

Christopher Hartman wrote:
I thought the D7100 was $1599.

nvm...Nikon lists $1199.  Carry on.

...It's $1599 WITH the kit 18-105 lens...

Gary Melton wrote:

...It's $1599 WITH the kit 18-105 lens...

.. Which is the same gap in price Nikon has had between their 'prosumer' and 'low end Pro' cameras since the introduction of the D70.  The only time the gap was smaller was during the 1-2 years (depending on the market) that the D7000 and D300 both existed.

PS201 wrote:
Hi guys, could anyone explain to me why not having a 10 pin connector is such a big deal?
Maybe I am missing something.

Only way to trigger it remotely by a pocketwizard, and many people who have used professional cameras for years have accessories that require that connection.

PS201 wrote:
Hi guys, could anyone explain to me why not having a 10 pin connector is such a big deal?
Maybe I am missing something.

Go back a page and see one of my remote shots...

DougBPhoto wrote:

Only way to trigger it remotely by a pocketwizard, and many people who have used professional cameras for years have accessories that require that connection.

What about those MC-30 to MC-DC2 adaptors?
I use a wired remote with my D7000 and the GP_1 supports the D7000 for geo_tagging.

Robb Mann wrote:
Again; d7100 body = $1200. D600 body =$2000. Obsolete D300s body=$1700.

You really think Nikon will leave an eight hundred dollar gap in their lineup?

Seems like I'm seeing the D600 dropping in price. Like $1600 soon?
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/14/nik … d-the-web/

Gary Melton wrote:
Even the D5200 has 14-bit mode, and while the D7100's sensor is not the same one as in the D5200...NO WAY would they not offer 14-bit in a more expensive model!!

Somewhere, I read that the D7100 is based on the same sensor as the D5200, but without the optical low-pass filter. If true, then it is likely a Toshiba sensor.

imcFOTO wrote:
So my question is what does this do for the D600? Although it's full frame and D7100 isn't - the gap in performance is going to be much smaller now yet. Surely the D600 will need a price cut or replacement?

I'd bee considering the D600 as a step up from my D7000 but now I may just sell the D7000 and go for a D7100 (really just from the 24Mp and improved metering options).

The D600 is dropping already.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/18/good- … more.aspx/
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/14/nik … d-the-web/

Robert Helm wrote:
Adaptors add one more possibility for failure. Plus more troubleshooting when it does not work and another spare you need to carry and who says the spare is any good?

I thought I was missing an specific use that I was not aware off.

If it is only about remote shooting the MC-DC2 port is just as useful and does everything the 10 pin port does, with native support or via adaptors.

(BTW, the adaptor is nothing but a four or eight cm long cable with no moving parts, not the sort if kit prone to failures or difficult to fit in camera bag)

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Somewhere, I read that the D7100 is based on the same sensor as the D5200, but without the optical low-pass filter. If true, then it is likely a Toshiba sensor.

According to the previews, the D7100 sensor is totally different and quite a bit more advanced than the D5200's (besides not having the low-pass filter).

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
The D600 is dropping already.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/18/good- … more.aspx/
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/14/nik … d-the-web/

42nd Street Photo currently has the D600 for $1659.

Gary Melton wrote:

42nd Street Photo currently has the D600 for $1659.

I think they are trying to shake the dust off.

Gary Melton wrote:
According to the previews, the D7100 sensor is totally different and quite a bit more advanced than the D5200's (besides not having the low-pass filter).

I read somewhere that the basic sensor was the same and they improved it for the D7100...but I'm mostly curious about the manufacturer being the same (Toshiba) or not?

Gary Melton wrote:
42nd Street Photo currently has the D600 for $1659.

I knew I'd seen the D600 for $16xx somewhere, thank you!

That's a pretty good price for a 24mpix FF Nikon!

bw fotograf wrote:

nope. you have to buy the MB-D12, or equivalent knock off. yep, i already looked into it. yep, i want to pick this up to replace my D7K and use that as the back up.

That is total BS in my opinion.

Gary Melton wrote:
42nd Street Photo currently has the D600 for $1659.

DougBPhoto wrote:
I think they are trying to shake the dust off.

Yeah, the D600 dust issue, from what I've researched the bottom of the mirror box was manufactured to tight tolerance, and the edge rubs slightly when it (the mirror) flips, so it wears about a micron of the black finish off. A sensor cleaning after around 200 images solves the problem. Pretty Easy/inexpensive fix, for a $16XX dollar 24mpix Nikon Full Frame. If I wasn't a Sony shooter...I'd go the D600 route!

Anyway, back to the D7100.

ArtisticGlamour wrote:

Gary Melton wrote:
According to the previews, the D7100 sensor is totally different and quite a bit more advanced than the D5200's (besides not having the low-pass filter).

I read somewhere that the basic sensor was the same and they improved it for the D7100...but I'm mostly curious about the manufacturer being the same (Toshiba) or not?


I knew I'd seen the D600 for $16xx somewhere, thank you!

That's a pretty good price for a 24mpix FF Nikon!

Yea, 42nd street photo. Battery, battery door, strap, body cap, etc, all extra.

Gary Melton wrote:
According to the previews, the D7100 sensor is totally different and quite a bit more advanced than the D5200's (besides not having the low-pass filter).

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
I read somewhere that the basic sensor was the same and they improved it for the D7100...but I'm mostly curious about the manufacturer being the same (Toshiba) or not?


I knew I'd seen the D600 for $16xx somewhere, thank you!

That's a pretty good price for a 24mpix FF Nikon!

Robb Mann wrote:
Yea, 42nd street photo. Battery, battery door, strap, body cap, etc, all extra.

There are stores like that - that quote a low price, then charge you separately for everything that comes standard...BUT 42nd Street Photo is NOT one of those!

I've bought several items from them, with no problems, no gouging, nothing of the sort.  There are only about 3 New York photographic houses I will buy from (and have bought from all 3 many times):

- B&H
- Adorama
- 42nd Street Photo

Do a little research before you slam a business!

edit: BTW, their average customer rating with their amazon.com customers has been 4.9 (out of 5) over the last 12 months - and that's from 1756 ratings...oh, and they've been in business for over 40 years...

bw fotograf wrote:
nope. you have to buy the MB-D12, or equivalent knock off. yep, i already looked into it. yep, i want to pick this up to replace my D7K and use that as the back up.

Aaron Lewis Photography wrote:
That is total BS in my opinion.

and... it appears i spoke too soon because the truth hadn't yet hit when i was reading last night. guess what? it's a BRAND NEW grip. the MB-D15. LMAO. do they really have to fuck with bodies so much that every goddamned model needs it's own grip?

Motordrive Photography wrote:
I think people that want higher frame rates aren't taking into account what large files that it has to buffer every second.

You can certainly think that, but you'd be wrong.

I want higher frame rates AND I am aware of the large files that need to be buffered as a part of high frame rates.

That is why we are paying Nikon the big bucks is to figure that shit out.

DougBPhoto wrote:
You can certainly think that, but you'd be wrong.

I want higher frame rates AND I am aware of the large files that need to be buffered as a part of high frame rates.

That is why we are paying Nikon the big bucks is to figure that shit out.

they did, and their answer is called a D4

Motordrive Photography wrote:
they did, and their answer is called a D4

Sorry, this is a thread about a DX body, not a full frame body.

You're right though, if they can figure out how to push that much data,  16.2mp at 11 FPS, then the same processing/data transfer rate could accommodate 22.2mp DX at 8fps.

With advancements in technology, there is no reason they should not be able to produce a 24mp DX body with 8fps.

bw fotograf wrote:
and... it appears i spoke too soon because the truth hadn't yet hit when i was reading last night. guess what? it's a BRAND NEW grip. the MB-D15. LMAO. do they really have to fuck with bodies so much that every goddamned model needs it's own grip?

I guess they have done the financial forecasts and concluded that's the most profitable approach, but personally I probably would buy the official grip if I knew it would work on any other Nikon body I may happen to buy in the next few years, but as it almost certainly won't I stick with 3rd party models instead.

bw fotograf wrote:
... it appears i spoke too soon because the truth hadn't yet hit when i was reading last night. guess what? it's a BRAND NEW grip. the MB-D15. LMAO. do they really have to fuck with bodies so much that every goddamned model needs it's own grip?

Yeah, Canon is driving us crazy the same way. The grip for the EOS 20D fit the 30D, the 40D and the 50D, but now? That grip doesn't fit the 60D. The EOS 7D has it's own grip which also didn't fit the EOS 5D, and the grip for the 5D doesn't fit the EOS 5D Mark II, and the Mark II grip doesn't fit the EOS 5D Mark III. Stupid crazy, please. Three versions of the 5D and each has to have it's own grip? And the grip for the EOS 6D doesn't fit any other camera? Sigh, I guess if you want to ride the train you have to buy a ticket, but this is truly silly. And I bet when the new EOS 7D comes out, it will have a new grip as well. And did anyone notice that each new grip is even more expensive than the previous one?

I bought the Canon grip for my EOS 5D Mark II when it came out, but then I gave up and bought a Zeikos grip for my EOS 7D, it has worked fine for three years now, and cost a third of what the Canon grip cost. (Although I always buy Canon batteries.)

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me voy wrote:
I wish Nikon would bring back the D700. The D800 is too much mega pixels for some of us and I don't think it shoots 8fps, or does it? Not to mention the ridiculous price.

the base speed of the D700 was like 5fps but adding the MB-D12 with the D3 battery jumps it up to 8 fps, and it is heavenly

DougBPhoto wrote:

the base speed of the D700 was like 5fps but adding the MB-D12 with the D3 battery jumps it up to 8 fps, and it is heavenly

Btw, that never made any sense to me. Why would adding another battery speed up the processing time?