Forums > General Industry > Shouldn't a good MM Port include a few male models

Photographer

Ed Woodson Photography

Posts: 2644

Savannah, Georgia, US

Jay Strange wrote:
I'm kinda' new around here and my initial impression is that most
MM photographers have only female models in their ports....
Not ALL but,most...
I would agree that when a person mentions the word "model",
97% of people immediately think "female".
But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds
balance and could be beneficial?

No!

Feb 23 13 01:58 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

I have men and women in my portfolio and I kick ass

Feb 23 13 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Leavitt

Posts: 6745

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
I have men and women in my portfolio and I kick ass

Correct, sir, especially since I am in there.

Feb 23 13 02:03 pm Link

Photographer

Jose Deida

Posts: 1293

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

smile   

Looknsee Photography wrote:
Shouldn't a good MM Port include a few male models?

Sure, I guess, if you want to be a generic, one-size-fits-all, "well rounded", will take any job, politically correct, "versatile", appealing to the largest common denominator type of photographer.

Feb 23 13 02:03 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

-JAY- wrote:

Correct, sir, especially since I am in there.

And you are a.....




Shit, lemme go check.....



You are a man!

Feb 23 13 02:04 pm Link

Photographer

David Kirk

Posts: 4852

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Jay Strange wrote:
Not challenging anyones skills or specific interests...
Just trying to make a case for "variety".

Then why not have wedding photos and landscapes in there too?  Shouldn't we also have some still life and food shots?

I have all females in my portfolio (currently).  I do shoot males on occasion, but my preference is to shoot women.  Do the female models I am wanting to work with prefer to see some male models in my portfolio?  I doubt it matters to them.

Feb 23 13 02:11 pm Link

Photographer

Yani S

Posts: 1101

Los Angeles, California, US

Don't matter to me I love to shoot!
I get way more females asking me to shoot paid or tf so I figured there are way more female models out there.

Feb 23 13 02:44 pm Link

Photographer

Matt Knowles

Posts: 3592

Ferndale, California, US

The only time I can say I got paid to shoot a model for their portfolio, it was for a guy. I had one of his photos in my port for awhile, and it got zero attention. While I'm not adverse to shooting guys, my concepts are for female models and that's what I enjoy shooting, so that's what I choose to have in my portfolio here.

Feb 23 13 05:25 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Strange

Posts: 127

Tampa, Florida, US

Weddings,landscapes,still lifes and food???
Ummm,
The name of the site is MODEL mayhem.

I guess a pomagranate martitni could be considered a model...
Maybe...
Somewhere...
By someone...

Feb 23 13 05:38 pm Link

Photographer

4 R D

Posts: 1141

Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico

I have a photo of a man in my port. I photograph things that interest me on different levels, not only sexually. So men are fair game for me.

Feb 23 13 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Yves Duchamp- Homme

Posts: 3212

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Jay Strange wrote:
I'm kinda' new around here and my initial impression is that most
MM photographers have only female llamas in their ports....
Not ALL but,most...
I would agree that when a person mentions the word "model",
97% of people immediately think "female".
But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds
balance and could be beneficial?

It could be. It could also be useless.

Feb 23 13 05:50 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Backstreet Photography wrote:
I've tried having male models in my port in the past, and was SHOCKED by the comments the images received.  Sadly, many of the people that commented had little more than nude male images in their port. After 3 attempts, i gave up on posting males in my port to avoid the shocking comments  ~~ m'

Odd because I NNEVER get inappropriate comments on my male models.

Feb 23 13 05:52 pm Link

Photographer

KeithD3

Posts: 1493

Saint Joseph, Missouri, US

I have a couple of shots of males in my port but I don't think having them there makes me a better photographer or improves my portfolio. 
I rarely shoot with guys because I prefer shooting with females, there are more female and male models.  Most of the props and wardrobe I have accumulated make more sense on female models than male.
Given the choice of spending a couple of hours shooting a female or male, I choose female. 

There really aren't many points you can make here on MM that will make sense when you add the words "most" or "generally".

Feb 23 13 05:56 pm Link

Photographer

ArtGlo

Posts: 506

Peru, Illinois, US

Jay Strange wrote:
I'm kinda' new around here and my initial impression is that most
MM photographers have only female models in their ports....
Not ALL but,most...
I would agree that when a person mentions the word "model",
97% of people immediately think "female".
But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds
balance and could be beneficial?

no

Feb 23 13 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Broughton

Posts: 2288

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

if your goal is to shoot more male models, sure. if not, why bring duck decoys on a deer hunt?

Feb 23 13 06:31 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Broughton

Posts: 2288

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

dp tongue

Feb 23 13 06:34 pm Link

Photographer

joeyk

Posts: 14895

Seminole, Florida, US

RKD Photographic wrote:
No. Because I have no interest in shooting male models.

My regular portfolio contains some male portraits, as part of my commercial work involves corporate headshots and portraits, but that's not what I use MM for...

Simple as that...

/thread

Feb 23 13 06:35 pm Link

Photographer

Nico Simon Princely

Posts: 1972

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Not really it all depends on your taste and what you shoot. I do have a few males I have shot as honestly I have more men hire me to shoot them than women. I don't TF with men because it's not easy to make my investment back.

Feb 23 13 06:36 pm Link

Photographer

Worlds Of Water

Posts: 37732

Rancho Cucamonga, California, US

Got a few on this port... sprinkled with dozens and dozens of superhotties... good luck finding them... borat

Feb 23 13 06:50 pm Link

Photographer

QuaeVide

Posts: 5295

Pacifica, California, US

I should hope that any photographer who has inclinations towards being an artist would try numerous subjects and have some success with several. But not everyone here has such inclinations, and many who do may prefer to display a wider portfolio elsewhere.

Feb 23 13 07:22 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

No.

Feb 23 13 07:29 pm Link

Photographer

JM Collins Photography

Posts: 13

Mabank, Texas, US

Both pose (no pun intended) different artistic opportunities and I shoot both, I like the challenge of both.

Feb 23 13 07:32 pm Link

Photographer

Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

I've always felt that a good MM portfolio should include more cowbell.

But, we've all seen notices on MM of shots with too much cowbell being blocked.

So, I have a 50/50 split of pictures of male and female models in my port, instead.

Feb 23 13 07:33 pm Link

Photographer

FullMetalPhotographer

Posts: 2797

Fresno, California, US

MM does not represent my full portfolio.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2342/3537972405_91fc4cd739_z.jpg?zz=1
11x17poster21-2 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8357/8425550691_61552022f9_z.jpg
Aug11 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8500087479_c52594dafc_z.jpg
david46110507 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3104/3096682471_915abd8075_z.jpg?zz=1
davidfix by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

Feb 23 13 07:42 pm Link

Model

Sandra Vixen

Posts: 1561

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I think that "good" and having "male models" in there are two entirely different things.

"Good" is certainly objectionable, and having "male models", or better, having "variety" shows that you're not a "one-trick pony".

Though I think if you only just shoot one subject, but spend a great deal of time, thought, and have a lot of experience doing that, and honestly really want to do the best you can, then I think that alone can give make one port "good".

But in reality, there are a lot of people who really just get into modelling just because they want porn. They may not be honest or realize it to some degree at first, but I have had my share of experiences with photographers (both experienced and inexperienced) who are really just after that and don't really contribute anything meaningful.

Having variety is a hard and fast rule to quickly weed out someone like that, and it works for the majority of the time. But I think in the end that you still need to spend a lot of time and energy to both discover a great port and to be a great photographer or model... and today I rarely see (even "professionals") spend more than a few minutes preparing and working on a shoot.

Feb 23 13 08:22 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

My camera can also take excellent pictures of landscapes, kids, weddings, pets, sports....

But I'm not interested in shooting those things so I don't. Same with guys.




Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Feb 23 13 09:09 pm Link

Photographer

DennisRoliffPhotography

Posts: 1929

Akron, Ohio, US

Jay Strange wrote:
I DON'T consider my work "Art"...and I freely admit that in my profile.

I'm a bit of a "whore" I guess...people need photos...I take their $$...and I give them photos...

My mentality and style ARE commercial...not very arty I'm afraid.

+1

Feb 23 13 09:21 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Howdy, neighbor.

Having men in your portfolio is good if you're looking to shoot men.

Feb 23 13 09:54 pm Link

Photographer

James Andrew Imagery

Posts: 6713

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Why would I shoot something that doesn't interest me?

Sounds pretty pointless.

Feb 23 13 10:06 pm Link

Photographer

Natural Means

Posts: 936

Yamba, New South Wales, Australia

Farenell Photography wrote:
If I could find on this site more male models who cared about their craft & the artform than they do about showcasing the size of their penis, I'd probably be open to shooting more male models than I do.

LOL

And yeah when you look at male model profile and every friend is a female model that kinda says enough about his real artistic ambitions for me.

Next.

There are more genuine female models who need me than days in the week, just need me I tell ya.

Feb 23 13 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Jay Strange wrote:
But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds
balance and could be beneficial?

The male and female form inspire me similarly.

Feb 23 13 10:12 pm Link

Photographer

David Kirk

Posts: 4852

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Jay Strange wrote:
Weddings,landscapes,still lifes and food???
Ummm,
The name of the site is MODEL mayhem.

I guess a pomagranate martitni could be considered a model...
Maybe...
Somewhere...
By someone...

You said you were just trying to make the case for variety.  I was trying to point out that variety is not always beneficial.  If I am interested in shooting females then why would it be important to have males in my portfolio?  It serves to add variety to my portfolio but so would wedding, still lifes, food and they are equally irrelevant to what I am looking for here on MM and what others should be looking for from me.

Feb 24 13 04:48 am Link

Photographer

Loki Studio

Posts: 3523

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

I shoot 80+ females a year and 2-3 male models. My portfolio reflects my income.

Feb 24 13 05:21 am Link

Photographer

Darryl Henick

Posts: 31

Davis, California, US

Hell, I got photos of pro football players on mine!

Feb 24 13 05:29 am Link

Photographer

Don Garrett

Posts: 4984

Escondido, California, US

I shoot what's interesting to me. I have no attraction, aesthetic, or otherwise, to males. They don't interest me at all, artistically. I have nothing against those who find males an interesting subject, and, if they see an aesthetic in some male subject, I would give them credit for seeing that aesthetic where I didn't.
  So, to put it a different way, a portfolio is a vision of the artist, and that vision is THEIR vision only, and it is THEIR choice to decide the content, and, therefore, show the world what they see as "good" subject matter.
  No judgment, by ANY third party, as to the content of that portfolio is appropriate. (IMO), (not humble !).
-Don

Feb 24 13 05:33 am Link

Photographer

name removed3

Posts: 264

Boston, Massachusetts, US

port should not be sausage fest, I like looking at females, dudes are boring

Feb 24 13 05:41 am Link

Photographer

SensualThemes

Posts: 3043

Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US

I wouldn't mind having more guys, but most of my inspiration is the female form and most male models I've met were too much of a pain.

Feb 24 13 06:29 am Link

Model

M A U I

Posts: 1587

Harare, Harare, Zimbabwe

Most of the dudes here are too bust staring at the chicks to work with a dude like me. It's ok. I don't like that kind of attention from old dudes anyways.

Feb 24 13 06:59 am Link

Photographer

KonstantKarma

Posts: 2513

Campobello, South Carolina, US

In my experience, male "models" on this site have no interest in posing for a photographer, only hitting on the female models.

Out of the 15 in my area, one agreed to work with me, and it only took a year after I sent the email.

Feb 24 13 07:46 am Link

Photographer

Malloch

Posts: 2566

Hastings, England, United Kingdom

Jay Strange wrote:
I'm kinda' new around here and my initial impression is that most
MM photographers have only female models in their ports....
Not ALL but,most...
I would agree that when a person mentions the word "model",
97% of people immediately think "female".
But,don't you think having a few token males in your port adds
balance and could be beneficial?

EDIT:Apologies...seems my use of the word "good" was mis-construed by some...It was never my intention to suggest that a port couldn't be Pro level quality and/or artistic
w/o pix of male models...Sorry.

The short answer is "NO"

Feb 24 13 07:48 am Link