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sospix

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Based on my current advanced yearly count, I'm thinkin' old age is a real killer  .  .  .  wink  I've survived cancer (twice), joint replacement (thrice), about every "regular" disease known to man (all the childhood ones, all the "around the world" ones as my family traversed the world growing up, including malaria)  .  .  .  but, this aging thing is relentless, and so far, no cure  .  .  . 

SOS

Apr 25 13 07:25 am Link

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afplcc

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Fairfax, Virginia, US

Sorinphyre wrote:
I was asking this question to my coworkers today, and got some interesting responses.

For me, I think of the scariest disease in the world is Fatal Familial Insomnia.  Your brain literally LOSES THE ABILITY TO FALL ASLEEP.  Lethal within 6 months, as your brain de-myelinates to the point where it can no longer support life.  No treatment.  No cure.

Scariest by what standard?

If you're dying, then simple pneumonia (where effectively you're not able to breath b/c of fluid buildup in your lungs) would be bad.  But the reality is that if you're dying, any disease in which you're conscious and feeling pain would be bad.

Ebola and any of the hemorraghic viruses are bad stuff (Ebola, Marburg, Reston, etc.).  But they burn out pretty quickly.  Generally speaking, from the time you begin to feel symptoms to the time you crash and bleed out is no more than two weeks.

Now, if you're talking about a disease from a public health perspective, than some variant on influenza virus would do it--like a virulent mutation of an avian flu.  Airborne--meaning it would spread easily and rapidly with quarantine being pretty futile.  And if it was a new strain that spread quickly, we wouldn't have time to develop a vaccine.  And as an adult, you'd see your parents and your children/nieces/nephews all go first (b/c they'd be more susceptible).

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Apr 25 13 07:25 am Link

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Big A-Larger Than Life

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Jerry Nemeth wrote:

You were very sick not long ago.

W blood cancer not ass cancer lol.  tongue

Apr 25 13 07:29 am Link

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sospix

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Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:

W blood cancer not ass cancer lol.  tongue

You've got blood in yer azz too don't ya  .  .  .  so, yes, you also had azz cancer Big A  .  .  .  wink  A little dark humor to lighten the mood  .  .  .  BTW, jest how iz ya feelin' now  .  .  .

SOS

Apr 25 13 07:34 am Link

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Reflected

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Apr 25 13 07:42 am Link

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Big A-Larger Than Life

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Reflected wrote:
but most of all beware the boy...

Hahahahaha

Apr 25 13 07:55 am Link

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Big A-Larger Than Life

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The Woodlands, Texas, US

sospix wrote:
Based on my current advanced yearly count, I'm thinkin' old age is a real killer  .  .  .  wink  I've survived cancer (twice), joint replacement (thrice), about every "regular" disease known to man (all the childhood ones, all the "around the world" ones as my family traversed the world growing up, including malaria)  .  .  .  but, this aging thing is relentless, and so far, no cure  .  .  . 

SOS

And the plague and all those cooties y'all had back in your day.  You survived those too.  big_smile

Apr 25 13 07:56 am Link

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Reflected

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Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
Hahahahaha

No fun intended.  Just as, I'm sure, you intended no irony.

Apr 25 13 08:02 am Link

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Kezins Photography

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Beckley, West Virginia, US

Scariest disease I'd have to say is Dissociative identity disorder.

Apr 25 13 08:04 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

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Sorinphyre wrote:
I was asking this question to my coworkers today, and got some interesting responses.

For me, I think of the scariest disease in the world is Fatal Familial Insomnia.  Your brain literally LOSES THE ABILITY TO FALL ASLEEP.  Lethal within 6 months, as your brain de-myelinates to the point where it can no longer support life.  No treatment.  No cure.

wow...never heard of that one.

I'm thinking the ebola virus.

Apr 25 13 08:06 am Link

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Decay of Memory

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Prions, aren't exactly alive so they are extra hard to kill. There's one really great prion disease where part of your brain rots and it takes away your ability to go to sleep. So you die of insomnia.

Mad cow's pretty bad. For awhile I was reading some theories that Alzheimers was prion based but I haven't seen much on that lately.

Sorinphyre wrote:
I was asking this question to my coworkers today, and got some interesting responses.

For me, I think of the scariest disease in the world is Fatal Familial Insomnia.  Your brain literally LOSES THE ABILITY TO FALL ASLEEP.  Lethal within 6 months, as your brain de-myelinates to the point where it can no longer support life.  No treatment.  No cure.

Yeah, that one - it's caused by prions and has a hereditary component.

Apr 25 13 08:09 am Link

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sospix

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Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:

And the plague and all those cooties y'all had back in your day.  You survived those too.  big_smile

I may still have some "cooties" somewhere  .  .  .  wink

Ahhhhhhhh, there they are  .  .  .

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Original_Cootie_box_cover_and_components.jpg/250px-Original_Cootie_box_cover_and_components.jpg

SOS

Apr 25 13 08:10 am Link

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DarcieK

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Will Snizek wrote:
Scariest disease I'd have to say is Dissociative identity disorder.

While it is scary, it is not fatal. OP stated fatal diseases.

Apr 25 13 08:16 am Link

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Big A-Larger Than Life

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The Woodlands, Texas, US

Rabies would be a horrible way to go also!

Apr 25 13 08:19 am Link

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-Nicole-

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Madison, Wisconsin, US

Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
Rabies would be a horrible way to go also!

I was thinking that too.

There is a survivor (from WI) without a vaccine. I think the doctors induced a coma to protect herself from her brain.

It's been a while since I read the case.

Apr 25 13 08:30 am Link

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Big A-Larger Than Life

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-Nicole- wrote:

I was thinking that too.

There is a survivor (from WI) without a vaccine. I think the doctors induced a coma to protect herself from her brain.

It's been a while since I read the case.

Damn.  I couldn't even imagine.  One of my friends asked if I couldn't go of natural causes, would I choose trauma or a disease as a way to go?   I'm like whatever is quicker and hurts less!   Haha.  Prob trauma.  Bc even infectious diseases which can kill the patient relatively quickly still on the whole would take longer than a traumatic injury.  Also, the patient would have more awareness throughout the process.

Apr 25 13 08:39 am Link

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RKD Photographic

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Anything that robs you of speech and mobility while allowing the brain to function normally - the thought of being imprisoned in my own paralysed body isn't a pleasant one.

Ebola is nasty-creepy but it's over pretty quickly by all accounts.

Dementia scares me, but I reason that by the time I'd be completely demented I probably wouldn't know the difference - the progressive nature of it is very harrowing though - the knowledge that you're going mad in stages and being unable to prevent it. My grandfather had it and watching him slip from lucidity to 'not being there' any more was more than my Grandmother could take, I think.
When he died he was in a nursing home and was known for randomly attacking the male nurses, who wore white uniforms. He eventually suffered a heart attack while being subdued by six of them (granddad was a big bloke and boxed for the Royal Navy before WW2 where he was decorated several times while serving in the Mediterranean fleet).
I heard later he was calling them "Nazi Bastards!" and gave them a pretty hard time before his ticker gave out. I take some measure of comfort from thinking he might just have gone back to the place he was happiest. Fighting German sailors.

What will kill me though - I have no doubt - is emphysema. My other grandfather died of it and the men in our family have a history if shitty lungs. One of my Uncles died from an asthma attack at the age of 59 and I get bad asthma when the pollen is high like now.

Not being able to breathe literally sucks - or doesn't - it's like drowning in air.

Apr 25 13 08:43 am Link

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Stephen Dawson

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If smallpox ever got out, it would be pretty nasty.

Apr 25 13 10:33 am Link

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Mr Banner

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Hayward, California, US

love

Apr 25 13 11:33 am Link

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Kezins Photography

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Beckley, West Virginia, US

DarcieK wrote:

While it is scary, it is not fatal. OP stated fatal diseases.

It can be fatal and often is.

Apr 25 13 11:37 am Link

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Luna Diosa

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Elizabeth, New Jersey, US

Def a staph infection that is scary

Apr 25 13 11:39 am Link

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Laura UnBound

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
Pity the OP didn't include parasites. There's a few awful ones that exist.

There's that one in Africa where you can see it running under your skin. That would be kind of bad too, and plenty https://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.png.

Thats one of my biggest horror-movie-esque fears. Turns my stomach to think about.

Apr 25 13 11:40 am Link

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Luna Diosa

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Laura UnBound wrote:

Thats one of my biggest horror-movie-esque fears. Turns my stomach to think about.

omg this too forgot about parasites

Apr 25 13 11:43 am Link

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AVD AlphaDuctions

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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

any of the occasionally curable cancers.  because then you would keep on fighting in the vain hope of surviving instead of either getting better or dying quickly and comfortably via advanced palliative care.  anything that tears you apart and you are not allowed to give up on is the worst torture imaginable.

Apr 25 13 12:30 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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Dearborn, Michigan, US

Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:

W blood cancer not ass cancer lol.  tongue

I know.  smile

Apr 25 13 04:03 pm Link

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Tom Linkens

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Lititz, Pennsylvania, US

If you count parasites, I imagine that Cantonese Bloodworms would be a lousy way to go. Death by having your brain eaten, but first headaches and insanity.

Apr 25 13 04:43 pm Link

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Patrick Walberg

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Sorinphyre wrote:
Did you not read my original post?  FATAL FAMILIAL INSOMNIA!  Look it up.

Oh damn!  I did miss that!  I must have been tired, because I did fall asleep.  As bad as I feel when I don't get enough sleep, I would not wish that death on my worse enemy!  I remember an episode of Law and Order with a victim of this disease.  It's a slow, lingering and suffering death.  Worst thing is being aware of it for quite a long time before you die.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia

Presentation

The age of onset is variable, ranging from 18 to 60, with an average of 50. However the disease tends to prominently occur in later years, primarily following giving birth. The disease can be detected prior to onset by genetic testing.[11] Death usually occurs between 7 and 36 months from onset. The presentation of the disease varies considerably from person to person, even among patients from within the same family.
The disease has four stages, taking 7 to 18 months to run its course:
The patient suffers increasing insomnia, resulting in panic attacks, paranoia, and phobias. This stage lasts for about four months.
Hallucinations and panic attacks become noticeable, continuing for about five months.
Complete inability to sleep is followed by rapid loss of weight. This lasts for about three months.
Dementia, during which the patient becomes unresponsive or mute over the course of six months. This is the final progression of the disease, after which death follows.
Other symptoms include profuse sweating, pinpoint pupils, the sudden entrance into menopause for women and impotence for men, neck stiffness, and elevation of blood pressure and heart rate. Constipation is common as well.

Apr 25 13 04:54 pm Link

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Sorinphyre

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DarcieK wrote:

While it is scary, it is not fatal. OP stated fatal diseases.

No I didn't.

Apr 25 13 08:57 pm Link

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IDiivil

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Los Angeles, California, US

Fibrodysplasia Ossificans Progressiva terrifies me.

Apr 25 13 09:35 pm Link

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John Photography

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Laura UnBound wrote:

Thats one of my biggest horror-movie-esque fears. Turns my stomach to think about.

And 6 of the worst parasites I could find

http://www.neatorama.com/2006/08/21/six … parasites/

Apr 25 13 09:45 pm Link

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Sorinphyre

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AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:

And 6 of the worst parasites I could find

http://www.neatorama.com/2006/08/21/six … parasites/

You've got... TWO TICKETS TO PARASIIIIIITES!!!!!

Apr 25 13 10:46 pm Link

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Tony-S

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Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
Yeah, but with Ebola your insides liquefy into soup...

Ebolaviruses rarely cause severe hemorrhagic fever. You need to burn your copy of The Hot Zone. It's mostly bullshit.

Apr 26 13 08:11 am Link

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Cherrystone

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Tony-S wrote:

Ebolaviruses rarely cause severe hemorrhagic fever. You need to burn your copy of The Hot Zone. It's mostly bullshit.

Well she's been to med school, so....

Apr 26 13 08:14 am Link

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-Nicole-

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AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:

And 6 of the worst parasites I could find

http://www.neatorama.com/2006/08/21/six … parasites/

I only read #1.....neutral

Apr 26 13 08:14 am Link

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Tony-S

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Cherrystone wrote:

Well she's been to med school, so....

So, what?

Apr 26 13 08:15 am Link

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DarcieK

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Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

You know what's https://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngto me about all this? I work for an insurance company who issues critical illness insurance and the only diseases/illnesses mentioned on here that are covered are life-threatening cancer, MS, and ALS.

Ebola, parasites, the disease in the OP, etc are not covered. That would suck!

Apr 26 13 08:20 am Link

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DarcieK

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Sorinphyre wrote:

No I didn't.

Oh, I'm sorry. I misread the OP then. I thought you meant pathogens/diseases that were fatal. I apologize.

Apr 26 13 08:21 am Link

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the lonely photographer

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Beverly Hills, California, US

necrotizing fasciitis.

down to the antibiotic of last resort, if that don't work,  it's amputation time.

Apr 26 13 08:27 am Link

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-Nicole-

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Madison, Wisconsin, US

Diseases don't necessarily scare me as much as parasites do. Knowing you're a host to something feeding off you and growing in your body.....NO THANKS.

Apr 26 13 08:32 am Link

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the lonely photographer

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-Nicole- wrote:
Diseases don't necessarily scare me as much as parasites do. Knowing you're a host to something feeding off you and growing in your body.....NO THANKS.

government bureaucrats are another form of parasite

Apr 26 13 09:33 am Link