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Pantaleoni Photographer
Posts: 77
San Diego, California, US


Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')
Apr 26 13 04:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MoRina
Posts: 5,764
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time.

Apr 26 13 04:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,627
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-scared-smileys-398.gif
Apr 26 13 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Danny Does Glamour
Posts: 2,343
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

I agree that mothers of three have very limited time. I feel sorry for anyone with that many children.

Apr 26 13 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Meghan Hale
Posts: 335
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my llama herder doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

I don't understand why anyone that strict about working would get in to this business. Not everyone will approve of who you work with, you shouldn't let an llama herder determine your career. And why make an MM account if you don't model anymore or read messages on it!

Apr 26 13 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 762
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers.

Apr 26 13 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Carle Photography
Posts: 9,227
Oakland, California, US


Meghan Hale wrote:
I don't understand why anyone that strict about working would get in to this business. Not everyone will approve of who you work with, you shouldn't let an llama herder determine your career. And why make an MM account if you don't model anymore or read messages on it!

Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches.

Apr 26 13 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 27,659
Dearborn, Michigan, US


Death of Field wrote:

Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches.

Yes.

Apr 26 13 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Lillian Faith
Posts: 296
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Jim McSmith wrote:

You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers.

Wow, something that's true and not a troll comment.

Apr 26 13 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Will Snizek Photography
Posts: 1,387
Beckley, West Virginia, US


I love it when people have this stuff on their profile.  Keeps me from wasting time.
Apr 26 13 05:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2,977
Austin, Texas, US


MoRina wrote:

How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time.

Seriously.
People aren't allowed to have modeling profiles on here if they aren't full time?
People aren't allowed to request deposits? (Tons of pros do).
People who retired aren't allowed on here? A lot of forum frequenters will guffaw at that.
I have a second profile on here that I never use. I direct people to my main page and say on my other profile, "I don't check messages here."
So what? This is most likely to keep pervy old GWCs away. I bet it works.
PM them and ask for their email. Not that hard.

Apr 26 13 05:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Hi_Spade Photography
Posts: 897
Darlington, South Carolina, US


Death of Field wrote:

Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches.

That may be true but I've seen many profiles with nearly all the op listed PLUS more. It makes it easy for me to click the "NEXT" button,lol.

Apr 26 13 06:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 7,190
New York, New York, US


I think it's great! As mentioned, it's easier to move on to the next one...
Apr 26 13 06:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Happy Guy Photos
Posts: 1,133
Upland, California, US


Pantaleoni Photographer

Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.

Apr 26 13 06:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
brianne
Posts: 279
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US


Well, better they have that stuff on their profile right there rather than finding out about those limitations later on when it might be too late.

Edit: Though I do have to agree with that last one being pretty unhelpful. I think this might be the case when people don't realize their email isn't automatically show on profiles because of scams. Or that they forgot leave their link for their Facebook or whatever.
Apr 26 13 06:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

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I've actually seen that one on several profiles.
Apr 28 13 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,819
Imperial, California, US


Yep! This place is full of American Idol type no nothing wannab's and Facebook phone pic divas!!:-)))))))
Apr 28 13 04:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 35,815
San Francisco, California, US


Much ado about nothing.
Apr 28 13 04:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 8,469
Los Angeles, California, US


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

This usually means to contact her here through ModelMayhem email (PM), rather than leaving a Tag message.

KM

Apr 28 13 04:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,774
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Wow, they saved you a bunch of time.  What exactly is the complaint?
Apr 28 13 04:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Ginger Rothestein
Posts: 191
Wilmington, North Carolina, US


Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.

Ouchies....

Apr 28 13 04:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ChanStudio
Posts: 9,177
Alpharetta, Georgia, US


You should thank them for doing that..  What a time saver.... smile
Apr 28 13 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fred Gerhart
Posts: 736
San Antonio, Texas, US


T A Y L O R  wrote:

Seriously.
People aren't allowed to have modeling profiles on here if they aren't full time?
People aren't allowed to request deposits? (Tons of pros do).
People who retired aren't allowed on here? A lot of forum frequenters will guffaw at that.
I have a second profile on here that I never use. I direct people to my main page and say on my other profile, "I don't check messages here."
So what? This is most likely to keep pervy old GWCs away. I bet it works.
PM them and ask for their email. Not that hard.

At least you have rates on your page. THANK YOU!!!

I found a model that I want to work with for a future project but her page said PM me for rates. Did that and nothing but crickets chipping in the background... system reports message read... LOL

Apr 28 13 05:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Carman
Posts: 369
San Francisco, California, US


Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.

Apr 28 13 05:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Carman
Posts: 369
San Francisco, California, US


Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.

I think what you wrote is very unfair. It's more like 7%-10%.

Apr 28 13 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Dekilah
Posts: 4,883
Detroit, Michigan, US


I think any time you are looking through profiles you are going to have to pick and choose and of course you will find inactive profiles or profiles for those of us who are not modeling as much as we used to/you might wish we did.

I read profiles all the time that make me think "Uh, I should probably avoid that person" or "We probably would not work well together" or "That photographer seems like they might be really demanding." I try not to waste too much energy on it and usually spend my time on whatever I think is productive like chatting with people I do want to shoot with, providing advice and insight on the forums, and learning more about modeling and posing and a little about photography too.
Apr 28 13 06:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Eva Marx
Posts: 40
West Hollywood, California, US


MoRina wrote:

How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time.

+100 !

Lol!

Apr 28 13 10:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


My favorites from here:

1.  "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."


2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."

Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity.
Apr 29 13 05:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Decay of Memory
Posts: 583
Asheville, North Carolina, US


KonstantKarma wrote:
My favorites from here:

1.  "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."


2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."

Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity.

and no nudity.

Apr 29 13 05:47 am  Link  Quote 
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salvatori.
Posts: 3,803
State College, Pennsylvania, US


Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city.  Here are quotes:

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin')

I am a budding novelist, so I am definitely qualified to do this for you (free!)

In the interest of saving you time, I have written replies for these comments, should a model dare put them in a reply to any PM you send them...

"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...." Better not shoot with me then. I'm so sexy, you'll soon be a mother of four!

"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up." Well, I guess the answer to the first question wasn't really necessary. You're talking about a sperm deposit, right?

"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks) Obviously, you only use this site 'cause you're a hooker... What are your rates? Or can we do a tf*?

"I don't read messages here." Neither do I. No time. Too busy ranting in the fora.

"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you." Oh, he'll approve... or I'll kick the shit out of both of you. Now, when are you two available for a session?

"Contact me by e-mail."  (No address or facebook or nuffin') Wow, we're so simpatico! I don't use that stupid Facebook either. Do you have a MySpace?

You're welcome.

tongue

EDIT: If you like, I can go through some profiles and come up with seven GOOD things in models' profiles; trumping your six negatives.

LAWYERED!

Apr 29 13 05:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Hyper Photography
Posts: 95
Birmingham, Alabama, US


You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers.

I want you to know that I am neither a flake nor a pro.  However I am a flaky pro...or am I a professional flake?  Hmmmmm.....

Seriously...I travel and attempt to find models to shoot with at many locations.  I hear a lot of the same things.  But when I start talking to models they hear just as many "excuses and oddities" as photographers hear.  I just move on and keep looking for models who are motivated to shoot.

Apr 29 13 05:59 am  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


Decay of Memory wrote:

and no nudity.

I can't find the "no objectification of women" profile and I looked for it specifically for this post...  Maybe she removed it.

Apr 29 13 06:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Decay of Memory
Posts: 583
Asheville, North Carolina, US


KonstantKarma wrote:

I can't find the "no objectification of women" profile and I looked for it specifically for this post...  Maybe she removed it.

That one's always confused me as I view photographs as a set of visual symbols that have been removed from an object, or de-objectified.

Apr 29 13 06:16 am  Link  Quote 
Model
LexLethal
Posts: 671
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


As others have said, they are weeding themselves out. Close the tab and move on to the next until you get to someone who actually wants to work.

One thing I say, that I feel that is not put on enough model profiles:
"Lens cap"
lol
Apr 29 13 10:01 am  Link  Quote 
Model
LexLethal
Posts: 671
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


dp
Apr 29 13 10:01 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kelley Nymph
Posts: 93
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Jim McSmith wrote:
You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers.

^THIS.

Apr 30 13 09:21 am  Link  Quote 
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2,977
Austin, Texas, US


KonstantKarma wrote:
My favorites from here:

1.  "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."


2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."

Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity.

What's wrong with that?
1. I'm aware of a prominent forum poster who has something similar on her page, and I don't see the problem with it. There are literally thousands of ways to portray women without objectifying them. Is that really SO ridiculous to consider? hmm
2. So she wants pregnancy shots? Lots of photographers on here have maternity projects and want pregnancy models.

In my opinion y'all aren't finding very good examples. The ones I think are ridiculous are:
-Has 4 cell phone shots in portfolio
-Has never had a shoot before
-Doesn't shoot nude/implied/lingerie
-5'1"
-130 lbs
-Otherwise unremarkable face/body
-Has an escort that they insist on "for personal safety"
-Profile's typed all in caps
-Demands rates Heidi Klum would blush at
-Says to text them for more info
-It's all "in dis tipe speach"
^^All the above in one profile.

To make a blanket statement, this thread currently seems like a giant mechanism to complain that every profile viewed isn't one that fits each person's tailored definition of what they want. It's like looking at profile of a model with tattoos and complaining that she lists her tattoos on her profile. Move on to the next one. I can promise you, if you can't cope with the "not objectifying women" bullet point, that model doesn't want to shoot with YOU either.

Apr 30 13 11:36 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 951
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US


My favorite profiles are the ones in first person plural ("we do this" "our style is this") but are actually one person. Never got the concept behind that.
May 01 13 04:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,209
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


Death of Field wrote:

Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches.

LOL smile

That would be pretty cool if they were all from the same Profile.

May 01 13 04:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 2,781
Ashford, England, United Kingdom


Models get hired for their looks.
May 01 13 04:17 am  Link  Quote 
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