Photographer
Pantaleoni Photographer
Posts: 79
San Diego, California, US
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin')
Model
Model MoRina
Posts: 6638
MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time.
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 6662
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
Photographer
Danny Does Glamour
Posts: 2346
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') I agree that mothers of three have very limited time. I feel sorry for anyone with that many children.
Model
Meghan Hale
Posts: 335
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my llama herder doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') I don't understand why anyone that strict about working would get in to this business. Not everyone will approve of who you work with, you shouldn't let an llama herder determine your career. And why make an MM account if you don't model anymore or read messages on it!
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 794
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers.
Photographer
Carle Photography
Posts: 9271
Oakland, California, US
Meghan Hale wrote:
I don't understand why anyone that strict about working would get in to this business. Not everyone will approve of who you work with, you shouldn't let an llama herder determine your career. And why make an MM account if you don't model anymore or read messages on it! Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Death of Field wrote:
Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches. Yes.
Model
Lillian Faith
Posts: 310
Savannah, Georgia, US
Jim McSmith wrote:
You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers. Wow, something that's true and not a troll comment.
Photographer
Kezins Photography
Posts: 1389
Beckley, West Virginia, US
I love it when people have this stuff on their profile. Keeps me from wasting time.
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2990
Seattle, Washington, US
MoRina wrote:
How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time. Seriously.
People aren't allowed to have modeling profiles on here if they aren't full time?
People aren't allowed to request deposits? (Tons of pros do).
People who retired aren't allowed on here? A lot of forum frequenters will guffaw at that.
I have a second profile on here that I never use. I direct people to my main page and say on my other profile, "I don't check messages here."
So what? This is most likely to keep pervy old GWCs away. I bet it works.
PM them and ask for their email. Not that hard.
Photographer
Hi_Spade Photography
Posts: 927
Florence, South Carolina, US
Death of Field wrote:
Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches. That may be true but I've seen many profiles with nearly all the op listed PLUS more. It makes it easy for me to click the "NEXT" button,lol.
Photographer
Marin Photo NYC
Posts: 7348
New York, New York, US
I think it's great! As mentioned, it's easier to move on to the next one...
Photographer
Happy Guy Photos
Posts: 1271
Upland, California, US
Pantaleoni Photographer Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.
Model
Sabryna S
Posts: 311
Doylestown, Pennsylvania, US
Well, better they have that stuff on their profile right there rather than finding out about those limitations later on when it might be too late.
Edit: Though I do have to agree with that last one being pretty unhelpful. I think this might be the case when people don't realize their email isn't automatically show on profiles because of scams. Or that they forgot leave their link for their Facebook or whatever.
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin')
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I've actually seen that one on several profiles.
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 8463
Imperial, California, US
Yep! This place is full of American Idol type no nothing wannab's and Facebook phone pic divas!!:-)))))))
Photographer
Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 9421
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') This usually means to contact her here through ModelMayhem email (PM), rather than leaving a Tag message.
KM
Photographer
AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 13053
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Wow, they saved you a bunch of time. What exactly is the complaint?
Model
Ginger Rothestein
Posts: 191
Wilmington, North Carolina, US
Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model. Ouchies....
Photographer
ChanStudio
Posts: 9219
Alpharetta, Georgia, US
You should thank them for doing that.. What a time saver.... 
Photographer
Fred Gerhart
Posts: 747
San Antonio, Texas, US
T A Y L O R wrote:
Seriously.
People aren't allowed to have modeling profiles on here if they aren't full time?
People aren't allowed to request deposits? (Tons of pros do).
People who retired aren't allowed on here? A lot of forum frequenters will guffaw at that.
I have a second profile on here that I never use. I direct people to my main page and say on my other profile, "I don't check messages here."
So what? This is most likely to keep pervy old GWCs away. I bet it works.
PM them and ask for their email. Not that hard. At least you have rates on your page. THANK YOU!!!
I found a model that I want to work with for a future project but her page said PM me for rates. Did that and nothing but crickets chipping in the background... system reports message read... LOL
Photographer
John Carman
Posts: 408
San Francisco, California, US
Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model.
Photographer
John Carman
Posts: 408
San Francisco, California, US
Happy Guy Photos wrote:
What you listed above is generally the norm, so it's accurate. Only about 3%-5% of the women that lists themselves as models actually are willing to model. I think what you wrote is very unfair. It's more like 7%-10%.
Model
Dekilah
Posts: 5236
Dearborn, Michigan, US
I think any time you are looking through profiles you are going to have to pick and choose and of course you will find inactive profiles or profiles for those of us who are not modeling as much as we used to/you might wish we did.
I read profiles all the time that make me think "Uh, I should probably avoid that person" or "We probably would not work well together" or "That photographer seems like they might be really demanding." I try not to waste too much energy on it and usually spend my time on whatever I think is productive like chatting with people I do want to shoot with, providing advice and insight on the forums, and learning more about modeling and posing and a little about photography too.
Model
Eva Marx
Posts: 40
West Hollywood, California, US
MoRina wrote:
How terrible of them to provide you information you need so that you don't waste your time. +100 !
Lol!
Photographer
KonstantKarma
Posts: 2513
Campobello, South Carolina, US
My favorites from here:
1. "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."
2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."
Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity.
Photographer
Decay of Memory
Posts: 682
Asheville, North Carolina, US
KonstantKarma wrote:
My favorites from here:
1. "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."
2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."
Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity. and no nudity.
Photographer
salvatori.
Posts: 4288
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica
Pantaleoni Photographer wrote:
Just finished scanning for models in another city. Here are quotes:
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...."
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up."
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks)
"I don't read messages here."
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you."
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') I am a budding novelist, so I am definitely qualified to do this for you (free!)
In the interest of saving you time, I have written replies for these comments, should a model dare put them in a reply to any PM you send them...
"I'm a full time mother of 3 and have very limited time...." Better not shoot with me then. I'm so sexy, you'll soon be a mother of four!
"I demand a deposit as a photographer once stood me up." Well, I guess the answer to the first question wasn't really necessary. You're talking about a sperm deposit, right?
"I stopped modeling last year...." (on line in the last 2 weeks) Obviously, you only use this site 'cause you're a hooker... What are your rates? Or can we do a tf*?
"I don't read messages here." Neither do I. No time. Too busy ranting in the fora.
"If my escort doesn't approve of you I won't work with you." Oh, he'll approve... or I'll kick the shit out of both of you. Now, when are you two available for a session?
"Contact me by e-mail." (No address or facebook or nuffin') Wow, we're so simpatico! I don't use that stupid Facebook either. Do you have a MySpace?
You're welcome.
EDIT: If you like, I can go through some profiles and come up with seven GOOD things in models' profiles; trumping your six negatives.
LAWYERED!
Photographer
Rogue One Photography
Posts: 95
Birmingham, Alabama, US
You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers. I want you to know that I am neither a flake nor a pro. However I am a flaky pro...or am I a professional flake? Hmmmmm.....
Seriously...I travel and attempt to find models to shoot with at many locations. I hear a lot of the same things. But when I start talking to models they hear just as many "excuses and oddities" as photographers hear. I just move on and keep looking for models who are motivated to shoot.
Photographer
KonstantKarma
Posts: 2513
Campobello, South Carolina, US
Decay of Memory wrote:
and no nudity. I can't find the "no objectification of women" profile and I looked for it specifically for this post... Maybe she removed it.
Photographer
Decay of Memory
Posts: 682
Asheville, North Carolina, US
KonstantKarma wrote:
I can't find the "no objectification of women" profile and I looked for it specifically for this post... Maybe she removed it. That one's always confused me as I view photographs as a set of visual symbols that have been removed from an object, or de-objectified.
Model
LexLethal
Posts: 672
Los Angeles, California, US
As others have said, they are weeding themselves out. Close the tab and move on to the next until you get to someone who actually wants to work. One thing I say, that I feel that is not put on enough model profiles: "Lens cap" 
Model
LexLethal
Posts: 672
Los Angeles, California, US
Model
Kelley Nymph
Posts: 93
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Jim McSmith wrote:
You will learn there are more flakes than committed pros in this game. And that includes the photographers. ^THIS.
Model
T A Y L O R
Posts: 2990
Seattle, Washington, US
KonstantKarma wrote:
My favorites from here:
1. "I am not interested in perpetuating the objectification of women."
2. "Currently I am very PREGGO so I will be needing Maternity shoots. Some including the handsome man pictured in my portfolio. I will also be needing NEWBORN and Family shoots soon! Let me know if you're a photographer interested in either! These will be TF."
Continue to the casting call: I am looking for a TFCD photographer to do a pregnancy shoot of me (currently almost 8 months along) and my man (seen in my portfolio) outside preferably. These will help your portfolio as well and show diversity. What's wrong with that?
1. I'm aware of a prominent forum poster who has something similar on her page, and I don't see the problem with it. There are literally thousands of ways to portray women without objectifying them. Is that really SO ridiculous to consider? 
2. So she wants pregnancy shots? Lots of photographers on here have maternity projects and want pregnancy models.
In my opinion y'all aren't finding very good examples. The ones I think are ridiculous are:
-Has 4 cell phone shots in portfolio
-Has never had a shoot before
-Doesn't shoot nude/implied/lingerie
-5'1"
-130 lbs
-Otherwise unremarkable face/body
-Has an escort that they insist on "for personal safety"
-Profile's typed all in caps
-Demands rates Heidi Klum would blush at
-Says to text them for more info
-It's all "in dis tipe speach"
^^All the above in one profile.
To make a blanket statement, this thread currently seems like a giant mechanism to complain that every profile viewed isn't one that fits each person's tailored definition of what they want. It's like looking at profile of a model with tattoos and complaining that she lists her tattoos on her profile. Move on to the next one. I can promise you, if you can't cope with the "not objectifying women" bullet point, that model doesn't want to shoot with YOU either.
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 953
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
My favorite profiles are the ones in first person plural ("we do this" "our style is this") but are actually one person. Never got the concept behind that.
Photographer
Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5214
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
Death of Field wrote:
Each of the quotes are from different models profiles.
Not all the same profile.
OP is cherry picking the most negative lines he can from his searches. LOL
That would be pretty cool if they were all from the same Profile.
Photographer
Kent Art Photography
Posts: 3588
Ashford, England, United Kingdom
Models get hired for their looks.
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