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fluffycakes

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Why are they always smart? I mean i'm just guessing, that that came from the idea that they fly over here in some spacecraft and contact us which would of course make them intelligent beings. However, now we're the ones sending things into space to find them, so why is it always assumed aliens will be intelligent seemingly, more intelligent than us..? Maybe we make contact and they're the inferior life forms... just a thought.

Jul 10 14 03:23 pm Link

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Iktan

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Jul 10 14 03:50 pm Link

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Al Lock Photography

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart? I mean i'm just guessing, that that came from the idea that they fly over here in some spacecraft and contact us which would of course make them intelligent beings. However, now we're the ones sending things into space to find them, so why is it always assumed aliens will be intelligent seemingly, more intelligent than us..? Maybe we make contact and they're the inferior life forms... just a thought.

At least a few science-fiction stories have been written that take this position.

In one that I recall, the aliens had "inherited" the technology from another race and weren't actually very intelligent or able to use it very well. When it broke, they abandoned it.

In another, the alien race had developed to a bit past we were over a space of 100 million years or so - in other words, much slower than humans, and weren't able to adapt to changes at the rate that interaction with humans introduced them.

I'm sure there are more. Those are just the ones that come to mind without mentioning Ewoks.

Jul 10 14 04:03 pm Link

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Jim Shibley

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Because we havn't made it out of our solar sytem & aliens wiuld gave a lot farther to travel to get here. Unless they started earlier then we did.

Jul 10 14 04:04 pm Link

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fluffycakes

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Al Lock Photography wrote:
In another, the alien race had developed to a bit past we were over a space of 100 million years or so - in other words, much slower than humans, and weren't able to adapt to changes at the rate that interaction with humans introduced them.
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lol ewoks(= but this is more what i was thinking. Humans come in very different levels of intelligence ourselves.. I was just wondering, why they're always seen as such highly intelligent beings.. maybe thats why we haven't met yet. maybe theres aliens out there that haven't made it out of their own solar system yet either(;

Jul 10 14 04:11 pm Link

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fluffycakes

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Jim Shibley wrote:
Because we havn't made it out of our solar sytem & aliens wiuld gave a lot farther to travel to get here. Unless they started earlier then we did.

thank you, that was helpful(=

Jul 10 14 04:12 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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fluffycakes wrote:

lol ewoks(= but this is more what i was thinking. Humans come in very different levels of intelligence ourselves.. I was just wondering, why they're always seen as such highly intelligent beings.. maybe thats why we haven't met yet. maybe theres aliens out there that haven't made it out of their own solar system yet either(;

They have been flying over and studying us for a long time.  They are the UFOs.  They probably feel that we are not worth contacting.

Jul 10 14 04:16 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

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Maybe you could find a copy of Cosmos and get up to speed on all this

Jul 10 14 04:20 pm Link

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Rob Photosby

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They are probably already here, but smart enough to stay unobtrusive (in much the same way as we contrive not to interact with an obnoxious neighbour).

Jul 10 14 05:00 pm Link

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Caradoc

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Jerry Nemeth wrote:
They probably feel that we are not worth contacting.

Can't say I blame them, since they always seem to pick up Cletus and/or his bucktoothed cousin...

Jul 10 14 05:09 pm Link

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fluffycakes

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Interesting. Well I neither believe nor disbelieve the UFO thing, Area 51 seems sketchy as all hell.. But it all could just be hype. It also could be completely true that they're flying over us every day just watching us like lab rats. I don't know the first thing about aliens or theories on aliens, but it's interesting to hear your thoughts.

Jul 10 14 05:24 pm Link

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Toto Photo

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Proxima Centuri is the closest star to our solar system at 4.24 light years away, meaning if we could figure out how to build a spaceship that could travel at the speed of light (even our rockets are nowhere near this speed), it would take us 4.24 years to get there. And, of course there is little likelihood that Proxima Centuri has planets and if it does that they could support alien life. So any aliens that visit earth probably came from much farther afield. They must have had unimaginably smart folks on their planet to have figured out how to travel at incredible speeds (speeds we're nowhere near attaining) for very long periods of time. Most of us on earth have no idea how to accomplish such things physically. If the aliens have figured that out, they must be much smarter than us at least in the realms of math, physics and astrophysics.

Just to give one example of the problems they'd have to solve: as objects approach the speed of light their mass approaches infinity. If we were to figure out how to get a spaceship to go really, really fast we'd also have to figure out how to keep a ship from blowing apart as its mass reached infinity.

Jul 10 14 05:28 pm Link

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Naughty Ties

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Jul 10 14 05:28 pm Link

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Stephen Fletcher

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They can't be too smart if they mess with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Jul 10 14 05:29 pm Link

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RalphNevins Photography

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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

we don't send the lower 50% in to space
probably not even lower 80% ...
why would aliens ? (unless they are cannon fodder ... ... )

Jul 10 14 05:29 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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Rob Photosby wrote:
They are probably already here, but smart enough to stay unobtrusive (in much the same way as we contrive not to interact with an obnoxious neighbour).

I lean toward this view.  If space aliens are visiting Earth, maybe they need not have traveled light years to get here.  Maybe they are already here, just a sub-atomic particle away, in the UFO Dimension.  smile

Jul 10 14 05:51 pm Link

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Managing Light

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Rob Photosby wrote:
They are probably already here, but smart enough to stay unobtrusive (in much the same way as we contrive not to interact with an obnoxious neighbour).

Seems reasonable.  I'd like to think that if we had finally acquired faster-than-light travel and had cruised up to a promising planet and found it inhabited with non-spacefaring beings, we would sit quietly in an unobtrusive orbit and bug them.  We would plant bugs all over the planet and put our computers to work on the data coming back to try to figure them out.

Jul 10 14 06:20 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart? I mean i'm just guessing, that that came from the idea that they fly over here in some spacecraft and contact us which would of course make them intelligent beings. However, now we're the ones sending things into space to find them, so why is it always assumed aliens will be intelligent seemingly, more intelligent than us..? Maybe we make contact and they're the inferior life forms... just a thought.

Hey Fluffycakes...maybe they are needing someone to Probe?

Jul 10 14 06:28 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

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Jim Shibley wrote:
Because we havn't made it out of our solar sytem & aliens wiuld gave a lot farther to travel to get here. Unless they started earlier then we did.

Basically this. If they've figured out how to get this far, they're smarter than us.

Jul 10 14 08:20 pm Link

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r T p

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart?


it
s all relative ...

they not always smart

we just usually dumb

Jul 10 14 08:26 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

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r T p wrote:


it
s all relative ...

they not always smart

we just usually dumb

So. I'm dying to know. Why do you italicize the first couple letters of all of your posts?

Jul 10 14 08:28 pm Link

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Gryph

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Alabaster Crowley wrote:
So. I'm dying to know. Why do you italicize the first couple letters of all of your posts?

If it is who I think that poster is, that is how every post begins.

Edit: it is.  lol

Jul 10 14 08:30 pm Link

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Dea and the Beast

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*is disappointed the tread is not pertaining to immigration*

Jul 10 14 08:30 pm Link

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r T p

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Alabaster Crowley wrote:
So. I'm dying to know. Why do you italicize the first couple letters of all of your posts?


why
is the sky green?

Jul 10 14 08:37 pm Link

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fluffycakes

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Amadea T wrote:
*is disappointed the tread is not pertaining to immigration*

Hahaha(-:

Jul 10 14 08:40 pm Link

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fluffycakes

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Alabaster Crowley wrote:

So. I'm dying to know. Why do you italicize the first couple letters of all of your posts?

I have always wondered this too. Is it supposed to be signaturey/unique to you/trying to be original thing? Like how I use bunny too much?

Jul 10 14 08:41 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

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fluffycakes wrote:
I have always wondered this too. Is it supposed to be signaturey/unique to you/trying to be original thing? Like how I use bunny too much?

Hm. Original. Yeah. That must be it.

Jul 10 14 08:54 pm Link

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Good Egg Productions

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They're not ALWAYS smart.

The prawn from District 9 weren't terribly intelligent, just advanced.  It was like a cruiseship that ran out of gas and Earth was the nearest life-sustaining planet they could coast to.

Jul 10 14 09:58 pm Link

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Tropic Light

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Aliens from other worlds who figured out how to travel to Earth wouldn't necessarily be more intelligent.  They would be coming from a different environment, and would have adapted to those conditions.  If they evolved with better sensory apparatus than we possess, or a more cohesive social structure, or both, then their understanding of physics might be more highly defined by default.  If they can see in the infrared and ultraviolet wavelengths, hear at vibrational levels beyond ours, and have various other sensory abilities that we haven't even considered, then their innate understanding of physics could be far beyond those of terrestrial bipedal primates with opposable thumbs and frontal lobes.

Jul 10 14 10:00 pm Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

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Toto Photo wrote:
Proxima Centuri is the closest star to our solar system at 4.24 light years away, meaning if we could figure out how to build a spaceship that could travel at the speed of light (even our rockets are nowhere near this speed), it would take us 4.24 years to get there. And, of course there is little likelihood that Proxima Centuri has planets and if it does that they could support alien life. So any aliens that visit earth probably came from much farther afield. They must have had unimaginably smart folks on their planet to have figured out how to travel at incredible speeds (speeds we're nowhere near attaining) for very long periods of time. Most of us on earth have no idea how to accomplish such things physically. If the aliens have figured that out, they must be much smarter than us at least in the realms of math, physics and astrophysics.

Just to give one example of the problems they'd have to solve: as objects approach the speed of light their mass approaches infinity. If we were to figure out how to get a spaceship to go really, really fast we'd also have to figure out how to keep a ship from blowing apart as its mass reached infinity.

Interestingly…

…within a relatively close proximity to earth are what scientists can only refer to as portals, out of which come particles that are transferred directly from the sun. Many are only open for fractions of a second but some open for fairly significant periods of time at regular intervals. Scientists are working to have satellites which monitor these portals. They say that they want to learn more about them, how they work, how they can be manipulated, etc. The project should have monitoring satellites in about 3 or 4 years. Scientist consider it a good candidate for figuring out how to traverse great distances instantly.

I can' help but wonder if part of that monitoring project is not simply to learn about the portals but to ensure that no one comes out of that doorway from somewhere else.

A short youtube video here

Jul 10 14 10:18 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

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Al Lock Photography wrote:
I'm sure there are more. Those are just the ones that come to mind without mentioning Ewoks.

you're calling them inferior now, but if they read that, you're gonna find your car smashed between two logs when you walk outside in the morning.

Jul 11 14 02:27 am Link

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WIP

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Do aliens on their planet have models that flake ?

Jul 11 14 02:59 am Link

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John Photography

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Oooh the British movie "morons from outer space"

Aliens come here to holiday, only they're human and the alien version of chavs....

Jul 11 14 03:37 am Link

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Toto Photo

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AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
Oooh the British movie "morons from outer space"

Aliens come here to holiday, only they're human and the alien version of chavs....

"chavs"?

Jul 11 14 09:39 am Link

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Jim Shibley

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I always have to look it up.

a member of a British subculture characterized by low- or middle-class youths with characteristics such as wearing athletic clothing, Burberry brand clothing, and gold chains, listening to rap music, driving low-end but "souped up" automobiles, and engaging in drunken and other crass behavior. Also called "townies" and "yobs".

Jul 11 14 10:04 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart? I mean i'm just guessing, that that came from the idea that they fly over here in some spacecraft and contact us which would of course make them intelligent beings. However, now we're the ones sending things into space to find them, so why is it always assumed aliens will be intelligent seemingly, more intelligent than us..? Maybe we make contact and they're the inferior life forms... just a thought.

If we contact them first, odds are we are more advanced.

If they make contact first...well...obviously they are more advanced.  So they'd probably pretty smart...unless they perhaps...export their idiots into space and we contact those idiot aliens...that would be kind of funny.

Jul 11 14 02:10 pm Link

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Dea and the Beast

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Toto Photo wrote:

"chavs"?

Chav. Council House (the projects ) And Vulgar.
That's how I had it explained to me by the riffraff themselves when I lived in Chavham errmm *clears throat* I mean Chatham, Kent.
Ingaland's equivalent of Scumbag Steve. 

Check out Sash a Baron Cohen as Ali G.
Definition of chav.

Jul 12 14 08:04 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart?

It makes for a better story.  But I seem to remember Sci Fi stories where we land on a less advanced planet.

Jul 12 14 08:20 am Link

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Reflected

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fluffycakes wrote:
Why are they always smart?

In space, no one can hear you homeschooling.

Jul 17 14 03:19 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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New York, New York, US

Aliens could be smarter than us, but in a way we don't recognize.  We might need a different paradigm other than smart/dumb.

Jul 17 14 03:34 pm Link