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How much disclosure is normal?
I use my real name here. You can google it and find page after page on me. If a model has any question as to whether I'm legit or not, that's all they have to do. It occurred to me, as I prep for an 11 am TF model session, that I don't even know the full name of the gal who is coming. I'll use a pseudonym, but her MM name is like Beth Sunshine and her facebook is Elizabeth R. I know nothing about her. So, I used to send out a model questionnaire asking for info, name, address, etc. and asked about what they wanted to shoot, photos they might like theirs like, etc. I've discontinued that because I've narrowed my TF work to what I want to shoot (I'm working with them, but not FOR them) and most of the gals were not filling out the address part. So, professional models and photographers of MM, how much disclosure of personal information do you expect to give and/or require before working with someone? Aug 22 14 06:00 am Link If doing a TF shoot, I don't care about their real name, address or anything. Just show up looking like your pictures and ready to shoot. At some point I will need an email so I can invite them to a dropbox folder with their proof images. If I'm doing a stock shoot, I require a release, so I do need them to fill it all out with real name, address, etc. Aug 22 14 06:29 am Link Why would anyone need my home address unless I am filling out a W2/I-9 (I have for modeling, yes) or they are picking me up? As long as they can contact me via email or phone and I show up to work, that's all they need to know... even if my name was Jizzmypants7 Aug 22 14 06:29 am Link Jules NYC wrote: It's funny that all the girls I work with are called "NoneOfYourBusinessBuster" Aug 22 14 06:33 am Link Muskopf Photography wrote: For a commercial shoot (rare for me): Aug 22 14 06:34 am Link BlueMoonPics wrote: ha ha Aug 22 14 06:36 am Link Jules NYC wrote: Don't you sign a release every time you shoot? Aug 22 14 06:36 am Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Over $600 you have to fill out an I-9 and for promo work a W2. Aug 22 14 06:40 am Link Muskopf Photography wrote: $600 and over you have to fill out an I-9 and for promo work a W2. Aug 22 14 06:41 am Link I recently did a shoot with a photographer, and the day before the shoot I realized that I did not know his last name, which made me feel uncomfortable. He told me through email, but admitted to me at the shoot that his first name was a pseudonym (he told me his real first name at the shoot...). I always tell people who want to set up a shoot with me my real first name, and we exchange email addresses and phone numbers. I think that's plenty, but if they need me to put my home address on the model release, I will. It makes no difference to me if they know where I live. I'm not scared of them. Aug 22 14 07:53 am Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Aside from a valid offline contact info (like a phone number), I'm not understanding why you'd need that BEFORE a shoot happens. Aug 22 14 08:02 am Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Why does a release require the model's home address? Aug 22 14 08:06 am Link I tend to not worry about these things. I'm a big, big advocate of privacy, especially on-line privacy. I tend to make it difficult for a casual user to find my real name -- it can be done, but it's not easy (and please don't try just to prove a point). When I arrange a sitting with a model, the model gets my real name, address, and phone. Before the session, I make the date, time, and location very clear, and I simply expect the model to show up. I don't need a call when she's leaving to get to the location; I don't need repeated confirmations. I don't have to treat the model as an irresponsible child who can't show up on her own. I often don't find out the model's real name until I scan their ID. I usually have a contingency plan, if the model doesn't show or is late. I guess I'm spoiled -- I have had only two no-shows in nearly twenty years. I am a big believer in checking references, so I already have an expectation that the model is reliable. I don't need to know much more than that. Aug 22 14 08:21 am Link I don't care what their real name is. I've shot some who change their names every year or two due to creepers. Some's handwriting is illegible as hell even when printed. Agency model may have a stage name, but check goes to the agency and they deal with the tax issues. I just get a copy of their time sheet and payment amount made and I'm over it. Never had a release issue yet. I have more encounters with Mr. Badges appearing and ID'ing people, even in my own house where I also got the "Can't do that here Sparky. You're not zoned for it." speech. Aug 22 14 08:27 am Link I have them sign a release, it has full contact information. I don't need an address, but it is on their state ID or license so on some shoots I guess I have it. Now if it's an agency test I don't get any of that, just perhaps the agreement with the agency. Aug 22 14 08:29 am Link Farenell Photography wrote: I used to have all the forms filled in with addresses, emails, phone numbers, so all the model had to do was sign and we'd go shoot. Between models not giving me that info beforehand, and also because some of them didn't show up for one reason or another, I discontinued it. Aug 22 14 11:06 am Link I'm totally ok with and understanding of having a photo of my ID taken, and that has my address so I really don't mind. Never had issues with it. If it was an issue, I move so frequently my ID rarely has my current address on it. I'd go broke getting a new one as often as required. Aug 22 14 11:38 am Link Good Egg Productions wrote: Because it provides additional accountability for the signature. Aug 22 14 11:50 am Link Jules NYC wrote: All the model's information is on her ID and on the release. Aug 22 14 11:51 am Link I don't shoot TF anymore, and I require full name, address, and telephone number for all bookings. I also require up front payment for first-time bookings. When I DID shoot TFP, I required enough communication with the model to feel secure that they were going to show up (and only had one no-show, ever) - that included differing degrees of information exchange for various shoots. I did require models to sign a release after the shoot, which included legal name/address/phone. And shooting mainly nudes, yes, that was a requirement, along with photo of their ID. Aug 22 14 11:53 am Link Once contact has been made and a shoot is in the works, real identities are revealed on both sides. Aug 22 14 12:02 pm Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Very few of the releases Ive signed as a model required any more contact info from me than my name, email, and maybe a phone number. And they often got pictures of me with my drivers license if they really NEED my home address (though I dont know why they would, they're not mailing me anything, and showing up at my door is one of the least effective ways of getting in contact with me) Aug 22 14 12:23 pm Link Those of you who won't fess up with a real name or address--how professional is that? Who are you? Aug 22 14 12:52 pm Link Apodyopsis wrote: This is pretty standard if there's any question as to whether the model is actually 18 or not. Aug 22 14 12:54 pm Link Muskopf Photography wrote: This is why you check the model's ID. Aug 22 14 01:05 pm Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Real name, email & cell number. Not forthcoming, shoot isn't happening. Aug 22 14 01:42 pm Link Muskopf Photography wrote: Someone who wants to protect their privacy against strangers on the internet? Aug 22 14 01:47 pm Link Why exactly do you need my address? Real name, phone number and email I'm happy to provide. But my private residence, nah. Aug 22 14 01:52 pm Link Muskopf Photography wrote: I would rarely ask for someone's street address before the shoot. If you were any good at Google, you'd likely find that on your own anyhow. Aug 22 14 02:15 pm Link Unless you are coming to my apartment to shoot or picking me up to go to a shoot together there is no reason for you to know my address beforehand. I think maybe once I had to fill out my address for a release. I of course have had to give ID for copies to be made several times. I always give my real, full name when asked as well as a cell phone #. I think the paranoia goes both ways. If you Google me be prepared to find crap like where I was married. That's about the only newsworthy information out there about me. Aug 22 14 05:59 pm Link Get a PO Box, that will solve the problem of giving out your home address. Aug 22 14 06:15 pm Link MDWM wrote: Are po boxes valid for 2257 paperwork and on government id/drivers licenses? (I don't know because I've never had one) Aug 22 14 06:42 pm Link MDWM wrote: As a hobbyist, I would never pay the expense of one. Aug 22 14 06:57 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: PO Boxes are not good for driver's licenses. Aug 22 14 06:57 pm Link BlueMoonPics wrote: So Id need to get another picture ID I could use for photoshoots then to make that suggestion useful. Plus the cost of a PO box Aug 22 14 07:07 pm Link In advance I only want their name and cell phone number in case plans need to be changed. I would ask for an id if they sign a release and I would only need their address if I'm mailing a CD to them in lieu of them picking it up. Aug 22 14 07:11 pm Link Jules NYC wrote: An I-9 is for your immigration status... You mean a 1099 over $600 it is for taxable income Aug 22 14 07:44 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: My PO Box is on my driver's license but if you use a Mail Center, you can use their physical address. Aug 22 14 07:48 pm Link No matter what kind of shoot, I like full disclosure, so if anything doesn't go to plan or I'd like to contact them for whatever reason again, etc I may do so with ease. I'd say full name, "stage" name, number, & email address is enough for full disclosure Aug 22 14 07:48 pm Link No ID, no clicky, you go now!! I always photocopy ID and snap a shot of the licence plate of the car if I can. With those and some old contacts I have I can find anyone I need to find. Just in case there's a problem later (burglary...)?? Aug 22 14 08:04 pm Link |
