Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > How often do you upgrade your electronics?

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
...  Laptop
...  Operating System
...  Office products
...  Phone
...  Tablet
...  TV
...  Stereo
...  Camera
...  Anything else?

What's your thinking?

Guidelines:
...  No "mine is better than yours" discussions, please.
...  No judgments of another person's strategies?
...  You are welcome, and even encourage, to mention brand names.

I'm just looking for how people think?

Sep 12 14 09:23 am Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

For example, for me:

I like to replace my computer hardware (PC Tower) every 5-10 years.  In that time, there usually is quite a lot of progress in overall performance, increased ability to support more memory and more disk space, and some new technologies (e.g. USB 3.0).  Until then, I'm usually fine with how my computer is working, but eventually, older puters get flaky. 

For software (Quicken, OS, Office, photo-editing), I usually skip one or two version releases because I tend to believe that the incremental "improvements" aren't worth the hassle of upgrading.

Monitors -- I upgrade those when they start to fail, which is maybe after five or so years.

Cameras -- I hold onto them as long as I can, because I use the "manual" setting most often, and the newer models aren't significantly better than the one I got.

Strobes -- Well, I got my first set of strobes ~25 years ago.  I'm still using them.  (Okay, I've replaced a few bulbs).  Although I'm tempted to get a system that can allow me to adjust the brightness of each head separately, but not so much).

I've upgraded my stereo twice in the past 15 or so years.



In general, if it works, I tend to stick with it.  I don't feel the need to be using the latest & greatest.

There was a time, however, when I was working for a Fortune 50 company as an engineer, where I was asked to be an Alpha or Beta tester for products from all sorts of companies.  Some of these became products (like Quicken) while others didn't (like an APL interpreter desktop computer).

Sep 12 14 09:23 am Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

When they disintegrate into dust

Sep 12 14 09:25 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

I LOOOOOVE new toys.  But I'm getting over the gotta have it now mentality.

Ever since I got my first iPhone 3Gs, I've bought the new phone as soon as I was contractually allowed to upgrade.  I was able to get the 4 after 1 year.  The 5 after 2 years. 

But...at this moment, I do not plan on buying the iPhone 6 on launch day.  I don't want to deal with trying to unload my 5, so I'm gonna probably wait until the stores start offering to buy my phone back and then get the 6.  We'll see. I want to reduce how much out of pocket money goes into the 6.  if I can get $200 for my 5, I'll be happy spending $100 on the 6.

As for other devices...I upgrade when the need arrises.  Otherwise I'm getting pretty good at milking it for as long as possible.

Sep 12 14 09:38 am Link

Photographer

Wye

Posts: 10811

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
Once every 4 or 5 years.. sometimes sooner if my parents need a new machine.  I'll hand mine down to them and buy a new one for myself.

...  Laptop
Maybe 4 or 5 years? Don't remember. I just recently replaced a machine that I'd only had for a year but I gave it to my business partner who was replacing one that was 6 years old.  Mine prior to that was something like 4, maybe 5 years old.. I don't remember when I bought it.

...  Operating System
Whenever the .1 version of a new one comes out.. though for some reason I've left my home machine out of date a couple of years.. just too lazy I guess.. even though I want some of the features that the current version has.

...  Office products
Software? Hardware?  At work we upgrade our machines every 5 years... older machines get pushed down the "I need the fastest computer" pipeline until they have no useful purpose anymore.  We're just getting rid of some 9 year old machines by selling them to our staff for dirt cheap. 

For software like Word (or equivalents) I tend to just hit the update button whenever one is available.  I so rarely use them that I will unlikely ever have a problem.

...  Phone
Every couple of years.. my parents/other family get the hand me downs or I use them for testing software on older OSes.  I'd say my initial purchase lasts about 4 years in *someone*'s hands.

...  Tablet
About the same as above. Maybe a little more often as I use mine for more work-related purposes and need more storage and CPU power.  I expect that rate will drop off once the features get to a steady state.  As above I hand down my old ones so they get more life out of them.

...  TV
Almost never.  Maybe a decade between purchases.  I think I've purchased one tv since the mid 90s... maybe 2.

...  Stereo
Same as above.

Sep 12 14 09:41 am Link

Photographer

Vivus Hussein Denuo

Posts: 64211

New York, New York, US

My VCR is still flashing 12:00 a.m.

Sep 12 14 11:01 am Link

Photographer

snappystjohns

Posts: 5

Saint John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada

Generally when they no longer do what I need them to. 

::Desktop computer - bought in 2009.  Works fine, no need to replace.  Previous one was bought in 2006 and was used as a secondary computer until 2013 when it died. 
::Tablet/Laptop - Just replaced my three year old android tablet with a Microsoft Surface Pro 3.  Not really a direct replacement since the SP3 does so much more (I love this thing!).  I bought it more as a laptop substitute than a tablet replacement.  My Motorola Xoom was my first tablet.
:: Operating System - upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7 on my desktop not long after Win 7 came out.  More for compatibility with other software than anything else.
::Cellphone - I have a work supplied iPhone 4.  Don't care about cellphones really.  If they take it away, I won't bother with one for personal use. I had a pay as you go flip phone before work got me the iPhone 4.  Hardly ever used it and had amassed $400 in unused minutes.
::TV - bought a new one two years ago when I switched from cable to Fibre Op. Prior to that had the same one for 10 years+.
:: Stereo - don't have one, except as part of my TV surround system, so its 2 years old, and the one before that...   bought in 2001.
::Camera - bought a new one this year. Loved my old one (was three years old but was fairly old tech even when bought), but it wasn't very good in challenging light.  New one is fine.
::iPod - don't remember when I got that.  It's a first gen iPod Touch.  Bought when they had been out for a couple of years at least.
I'm a technologist by trade, but I'm not really into it, not like I was when I was young.  As long as something works, I don't care for buying new shiny stuff.  But I do replace stuff that no longer suits my needs.
:: Car - hoping to get another 6 or 7 years out of this one, though its not looking good.  I don't drive much (just hit 20,000km, and its 3.5 years old), but its got a little touch of rust on it already - lots of salt on the roads in winter is not good for cars!

Sep 12 14 11:15 am Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

When the old one won't work anymore, and there's no way to cheaply fix it.

Then, I'll find a newish 3 year old version, and feel awesome that I saved myself $500.

In 2004, I bought a used laptop for $200, and used that thing for FOUR years.

Regular bargain shoppers ain't got nothing on me.

Sep 12 14 11:15 am Link

Photographer

Lumatic

Posts: 13750

Brooklyn, New York, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
In general, if it works, I tend to stick with it.  I don't feel the need to be using the latest & greatest.

Same here.  Timing is pretty much irrelevant, other than whether or not I can afford it at the time.  I'm usually pretty practical in this regard:

When it fails and it's too impractical to fix.

When it becomes obsolete or performance suffers significantly.

When it still functions but the upgrade provides a significant enough improvement in performance or functionality.

Sep 12 14 11:31 am Link

Photographer

Caradoc

Posts: 19900

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:
My VCR is still flashing 12:00 a.m.

"We've got a twelve-o'clock-flasher!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL24aNugo_4

Sep 12 14 11:32 am Link

Photographer

Jim Ball

Posts: 17632

Frontenac, Kansas, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
...  Laptop
...  Operating System
...  Office products
...  Phone
...  Tablet
...  TV
...  Stereo
...  Camera
...  Anything else?

What's your thinking?



Guidelines:
...  No "mine is better than yours" discussions, please.
...  No judgments of another person's strategies?
...  You are welcome, and even encourage, to mention brand names.

I'm just looking for how people think?

When the one I have dies...

Sep 12 14 11:34 am Link

Photographer

Jim Ball

Posts: 17632

Frontenac, Kansas, US

Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:
My VCR is still flashing 12:00 a.m.

The fact that you still have a VCR plugged in says a lot... tongue  lol

Sep 12 14 11:36 am Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
How often do you upgrade your electronics?

Not too often.  I often buy the best based on my need.  They are low ticket items, I don't sweat on them much.  The big boy toys consume my $ and time more as I get older.

Sep 12 14 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
I got my desktop in 2008, but I don't use it very much anymore.  It's pretty slow, and at the moment my wife is using it primarily.  She's due for a CPU upgrade.

...  Laptop
That happens fairly frequently--like every 2-3 years.  I use mine roughly 10 hours a day, so it gets a lot of wear, and I am quick to install and uninstall random things (from reputable sources, of course).  I've had my current laptop for about 9 months, so I have some time before a new one of those.

...  Operating System
I typically don't switch operating systems on machines.  New machine, new OS.  Otherwise, I don't bother.

...  Office products
I'm using the stapler I got in high school.

...  Phone
I've stopped making the mistake of buying a non-high-end phone.  I use it too much (and almost never as a phone) to put up with a buggy, slow phone. 

...  Tablet
I don't have a need for one, and I've never really wanted one. 

...  TV
I very recently replaced the big ass CRT I bought 10 years ago with a smart TV in preparation for severing the cable/satellite cord.  I don't plan to consider a new TV for many years.

...  Stereo
I'm using the component system I scrimped and saved for 20 years ago.  I have been considering replacing the receiver with something that can become a home theater, but I probably won't.  At least in the next several years.

...  Camera
Not as often as I'd like.

Sep 12 14 01:23 pm Link

Model

Model Sarah

Posts: 40987

Columbus, Ohio, US

Hardly ever. I'm not attached to electronics or anything material much. I just need it to function. My first smart phone I bought three years ago and the only reason I got a "newer" one is because I lost mine in a train station. I've got a simple Dell laptop I've had for 3 years only because my netbook crapped out on me. We have two flatscreen televisions that we never watch. They were both given to us. Zach has had his gaming computer for 6 years.

Cameras? All of my cameras are from the 50's or earlier. Stereo? When it breaks. Tablet? Never wanted one.

So, only when they really need to be.

Sep 12 14 01:40 pm Link

Photographer

Lightcraft Studio

Posts: 13682

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
...  Laptop
...  Operating System
...  Office products
...  Phone
...  Tablet
...  TV
...  Stereo
...  Camera
...  Anything else?

What's your thinking?

Computers: As needed. I try to keep current on software I use a lot, and that tends to require more and more speed and memory. It winds up being about every 4 years or so before the computer bogs down and becomes a pain to the point where I can justify replacing it.

Laptop: Now that I'm out of the corporate world I don't need a laptop any more, so I use a tablet instead when I travel. I'm still on my first tablet since it works fine after about 4 years.

TV: I have four in the house. When one dies, I replace it. That's probably one every 5 years or so.

Stereo: Still using the same stereo equipment I bought back in the 1990's.

Camera: I still have film cameras from 30+ years ago. I used to upgrade my digital cameras often when digital was still new since I was always striving to match the quality of film. Now that digital cameras have nearly matched the quality (image quality, print size, etc.) of film I no longer need to upgrade. I do tend to every couple of years want to get different lenses so I can try different styles of photography... I will sell an old lens or two and get something new to try for a while.

Sep 12 14 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
...  Laptop
...  Operating System
...  Office products
...  Phone
...  Tablet
...  TV
...  Stereo
...  Camera
...  Anything else?

What's your thinking?

When they die and there is not an easy, fast, dirt cheap repair. I was an R & D engineer and also did my share of repairing consumer electronics. These days, I don't care anymore about how or why things work. I just want them to work when I hit the "On" button. Period.

Oh, and Brian - I'm still using my grandfather's stapler from around the 1920's. Works just fine. Dare I say a lot better than the ones folks can buy today?   tongue

Sep 12 14 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

https://grcctoday.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/milton-stapler1.jpg

Sep 12 14 02:32 pm Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).
...  Laptop
...  Operating System
...  Office products
...  Phone
...  Tablet
...  TV
...  Stereo
...  Camera
...  Anything else?

What's your thinking?



Guidelines:
...  No "mine is better than yours" discussions, please.
...  No judgments of another person's strategies?
...  You are welcome, and even encourage, to mention brand names.

I'm just looking for how people think?

I usually run my stuff into the ground.
My last car was unrepairable (a stick shift). The parts didn't exist anymore so it took a final drive to the junk yard.
I sold my van only a couple of years ago because it had no use for me since it was my second car.  It was 30 years old and still ran great.

Electronics...
I run my computers until they wont run software I need anymore.
OS. I'm still on XP. lol
Phone: I lost my last one so I bought a Samsung that is 2 generations old.  Saved a bundle and it works just fine for what I use it for.
I don't own a Tablet (except a fake one that I use for stock shoots, I make money with it. smile )
I don't own a TV because I'm done with it.  Too many decades watching the tube.
My stereo is from 1991 and kicks ass.  I recently sold my tape decks but still keep my turntable and CD player. I don't use them anymore though.
Camera is a Canon 5D2.  I'd like to get a Mk3 and use my current one as a back up.

I've never felt like I need to get the latest gadget although they are tempting.
I just get what I need and run it until it can't run no more.

Sep 12 14 02:43 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
https://grcctoday.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/milton-stapler1.jpg

Stapler wars haz begun!

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140912/14/54136c25198ca_m.jpg

tongue

Sep 12 14 02:58 pm Link

Photographer

Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

I grew up with one that looked mostly like this.

https://antiqueoutings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Ace-Stapler-Model-102.jpg

Sep 12 14 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
I grew up with one that looked mostly like this.

https://antiqueoutings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Ace-Stapler-Model-102.jpg

Doesn't count. I grew up with a lot of weird stuff too. It's what you have and use today tongue

Sep 12 14 03:07 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I am typing this on an 8 year old laptop.  The only thing that I upgrade regularly is my cellphone.

Sep 12 14 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

I have no pattern.  I replace them when I find something that I want more.

Sep 12 14 03:12 pm Link

Photographer

John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Every 2 to 3 years I'll trash my computer, and build a new one..... Usually I keep things like bluray and DVD drives, hard drives and such...... But the rest goes...

Other electronics don't get upgraded for years... I don't care for fancy stuff and my windows phone is as far as I go with so called "smart phones" I still have an old Huawei  phone with proper buttons....

I still have my old stereo which is now nearly 10 years old......

Anything else that is old usually gets a teardown and I scrounge them out for parts, chips, capacitors, motors anything useful..

Sep 13 14 02:23 am Link

Model

HighMind9

Posts: 2519

Jacksonville, Florida, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
I have no pattern.  I replace them when I find something that I want more.

This pretty much,
I actually want to downgrade to dumb phone. Can you even still do that?

Sep 13 14 05:51 am Link

Photographer

John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

The dark Satyr wrote:

This pretty much,
I actually want to downgrade to dumb phone. Can you even still do that?

Yes just remove your sim card and buy a phone with buttons.... Plenty of "dumb phones" still on the market. And they often have more battery time.

Sep 13 14 07:04 am Link

Photographer

PhillipM

Posts: 8049

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I have my 3rd computer system with a new OS in the last 15 years.

My 3rd camera in the same amount of time.  The only reason for that, is Canon quit repairing them.  End of life crap, or something like that.

So I guess, every 5 years.

Sep 13 14 07:12 am Link

Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13564

Washington, Utah, US

Computer:  3-5 years.  I often get the 3-year Apple warranty/support, so once it has a major problem beyond that, I replace. 

Phone:  about 3 years.  Similar to computer, Usually by 3-4 years it's having a major problem.

Ipad - new enough it's hard to say - probably every 4 years.

T.V.:  15-20 years?   Had a big tube T.V. for 20+ years, Updated  to a flat screen about 4 years ago.  I imagine I'll keep it for another decade if it keeps working that long.

Music/Audio - used my original amp. speaker, system for about 20 years before replacing it with a surround sound system about 15 years ago which I still have.  I'm on my third CD/DVD player, so about 10 years there.   (I still have my original amplifier, but haven't used it in a couple years)

I've owned a couple cheap speaker systems for computer, music, etc.   About a year ago I purchased a bluetooth speaker for my Iphone and Ipad - hard to say how long that will last.


Writing this makes me realize the design obsolescence computer products have compared to dedicated audio visual equipment.

Sep 13 14 07:24 am Link

Photographer

scrymettet

Posts: 33239

Quebec, Quebec, Canada

when they died.

Sep 13 14 01:28 pm Link

Photographer

RINALDI

Posts: 2870

Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands

For the majority, when they are showing signs of error. The exception is my mobile phone, which I can pick a new free phone with my subscription every two years. On the other hand, my tv is a Sony trinitron which I still have for more than 10 years. Everything is still working except the remote, I bought a generic one to compensate that.

Sep 13 14 01:40 pm Link

Photographer

r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
What's your thinking?


I'm just looking for how people think?


i
leave all the thinking to the manufacturers ...

and upgrade as soon as a new model/version is released

Sep 13 14 01:43 pm Link

Photographer

Guss W

Posts: 10964

Clearwater, Florida, US

My purchases are usually need-driven.  I don't feel compelled to be leading-edge.

...  Computer
Last replaced when Photoshop brought the old one to a crawl and I was wanting to try video where multi-processing helps a lot.
I assemble my own using a cabinet large enough to add and swap components as needed, so I can stretch them a long time.

...  Laptop
I just use one for occasional travel and as a backup should something break in the main computer.  So replacements are a long time apart.

...  Operating System
The way Windows has changed, I'm afraid Mr. Gates now has me trapped into regular upgrades.  But I still wait until the new version has been out a while before switching.

...  Office products
My hand-cranked pencil sharpener from the 1960's still works.

...  Phone
I don't need anything fancy, just voice, so a phone has to die before it gets replaced.

...  Tablet
Haven't found a use for one.

...  TV
I almost never watch TV or videos.  My TV from around 1995 still works beautifully.

...  Stereo
The last motivator for an upgrade was digital interfaces (S/PDIF) which cut out the static hiss between devices.  That was a long time ago.  Now I'm hoping to find an HD Digital Radio tuner to add to it.  I've already upgraded the car radio to have HD Digital reception. 

...  Camera
Every other generation keeps me happy.  There aren't enough new features on a single generation to get me motivated.

Sep 13 14 02:46 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

My first stereo was a beast. Sansui AU-999 Amp & TU-99 Tuner.

I had it for 26 yrs, still worked great. Sold it to an audiophile in Minnesota who went NUTS over getting it.

I custom build my computers, they tend to last many many years.

Sep 13 14 03:31 pm Link

Photographer

Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Cherrystone wrote:
My first stereo was a beast. Sansui AU-999 Amp & TU-99 Tuner.

I had it for 26 yrs, still worked great. Sold it to an audiophile in Minnesota who went NUTS over getting it.

Big surprise! That was a really nice set-up. Not the easiest to work on (when they actually broke - not often), but, oh my, the sound . . . . . . .

Sep 13 14 04:21 pm Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
When they disintegrate into dust

This. Most of what I own is outdated and isn't made anymore. Unless it no longer functions I continue to use it.

Sep 13 14 05:45 pm Link

Photographer

Thinking Inside The Box

Posts: 311

Diamond Bar, California, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
By "electronics", I mean...
...  Computer (whichever kind -- PC, Mac, Linux, etc.).

Roughly every 4-6 years. Shorter in the earlier days.

...  Laptop
Haven't replaced my first one.

...  Operating System
A few months after a new one is released and (usually) a revised version is released. And they usually go in a VM for a while before graduating to prime time on my computers.

...  Office products
Like staplers? Mine are 15+ years old. But they're not electronic. smile
Printers? Typically 4-8 years.

...  Phone
I'm using my second one now. Maybe 7 years each?

...  Tablet
Still using my first one.

...  TV
Don't own one.

...  Stereo
The amp (Levinson ML9) and speakers (Acoustat) are 30 years old. The control amp (Meridian 541) is around 20 years old. The CD player is around 5 years old. Replacing any of them but the CD would cost me a lot more than they did--and I can sell the speakers and amp for at least as much as the same as I paid for them new.  Hardly seems worth the effort.

...  Camera
I'm on my 3rd digital camera now, having bought my first dSLR in 2001. That's in addition to 6 35mm film SLRs, a 4x5 camera, 2 MF TLRs and one MF SLR since around 1970 or so. There was a lot of overlap (backups, dual use), so it's hard to say exactly, but the raw numbers overall look like 13 in 44 years: 3 years each--but only falsely assuming serial purchases instead of multiples. My previous dSLR became a backup to my current one after 9 years. (1D2->5D3)

... Strobes
My 2 monolights are around 10 years old. The packs range from 20 years to 5, but most were bought used and are 5-15 years older than that. Speedotron isn't the most flexible system, but it is durable.

Of course, I kept my last 2 vehicles for 12 and 17 years each, respectively. I obviously prefer durable gear.

Sep 13 14 06:11 pm Link

Photographer

DHayes Photography

Posts: 4962

Richmond, Virginia, US

Computer - every two years I replace my motherboard/cpu and hard drives.  Mainly to keep up with the demands of video editing.  If it takes real time or longer to render a completed video, the computer is too slow for me.

Tablet - pretty much every year I replace the previous model with a newer one. I mainly use the tablet as a digital still and video portfolio. 

Still cameras - I will go four or five years before replacing a body or lens with something newer and greater.

Video cameras - every two or three years.

Phones - I have owned only four cell phones since they became generally available.  I purchased my first "smart" phone about six months ago.

Sep 14 14 06:02 am Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

Only when it is needed.

Investing in every latest and greatest model of gadget is simply wasteful.

Sep 14 14 09:11 am Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Lohkee wrote:

Big surprise! That was a really nice set-up. Not the easiest to work on (when they actually broke - not often), but, oh my, the sound . . . . . . .

Never had a problem with the amp...other than blowing out two sets of speakers. smile
Finally I built a monster pair that could withstand the volume.
I had two other sets of speaker hooked up to it also, never a problem pushing out max volume.

When I bought those they cost me 5 weeks gross wages at the time. The Marantz I got now....eh, it's ok, but it's not that Sansui.

Sep 14 14 11:25 am Link