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GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

From all the cell phone uploads and recent hacks of celebrities selfies and whatever else on people's phones, it might be on a rise for the cellular crowd.

Sep 26 14 07:35 pm Link

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I M N Photography

Posts: 2350

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Rob Photosby wrote:

That's one area where the europeans are ahead of the english-speaking world.  They are pretty relaxed about nudity and far more likey to get offended by screen violence.

Last I checked, the UK was English-speaking...

Sep 26 14 07:50 pm Link

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Pictures of Life

Posts: 792

Spokane, Washington, US

In general, in modern times, extroverts rule.  Extroverts define norms. (In the OLDEN days, a few select kings/priests could set the norms, and more boundaries = more power/control. No more.) The people who get in the public eye, and climb to the top of public office are extroverts, the more stimulation the better.  If information is power, and technology allows more users to spread information, and pictures; and more extroverts are spreading more shock value images, then it is only logical that there will be more and more content that was previously off limits.  I know people have  painted and photographed nudes since the garden of eden, but the volume and style are definitely expanding. The access to the means, technology, guarantees that.
     When I was a kid, 70s, a murder on a TV show would be a camera shot of the bad guy looking mean, "You're gonna get it" a gun in a gloved hand, the victim looking horrified, the camera backing out of the doorway, the door closing, a scream and bang, maybe a flash of light. You didn't actually see someone get shot.  The act of shooting someone in a TV show wasn't common until the 80s.  Blood in the 90s. Now we have slow-mo hi-def cross section CT images of bullets tearing through the body, and the bone fragments exploding outward. Even in old westerns where dozens of people got shot, you might see a tiny hole and drip of blood. Now you see heads exploding and tissue/goo splattering.  What was once off limits is now mainstream.
   When I was a kid there were nudes, in Playboy, stashed in the closet. I could look at them for a few minutes a day.  Now I can take gigabytes with me everywhere I go, and access billions of pictures 24/7 online; along with videos of anything and everything.  Yeah, it's different.
    Since the power of religions is declining, and/or converting to political power, the backlash against nudity and other 'offending' stuff will be less severe and less frequent. (Plus religious norms are shifting.) Fine art nudes will always be the same.  But outside of that, some people will keep pushing the boundaries just to see what they can get away with. That has always been the case, there have always been extremists, but now they don't need the establishment to publish, so there are fewer filters.  The more people see the wild stuff, the more 'normal' it is.  Normal will continue to shift; maybe back to where it was before we had morality dictated by monarchs, and people wore clothes if they wanted. Maybe someday normal will progress all the way back to the garden of eden, pre-clothes, pre-marriage, pre-church, pre-money, pre-greed, pre-racism. You can only hope.

Sep 26 14 10:15 pm Link

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Harlequins Mask

Posts: 131

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

DougBPhoto wrote:
I can't imagine drinking at a shoot, or offering alcohol/drugs to a model, and to "gently nudge" them into "stripping" and shooting them after having given them something to make it easier to convince them... yikes!!

Maybe it is just me, but that seems very suspicious/unprofessional conduct.

I would not want to do nudes with anyone who is not totally comfortable doing them and most importantly, won't have second-thoughts afterwards.   If you give someone booze (or drugs) they really can't consent, so legally and professionally, that is bad conduct.

Amen to that. No booze, and if the model isn't aware that they're going to be posing nude BEFORE the shoot, then it doesn't happen.

Sep 26 14 10:22 pm Link

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Ruben Sanchez

Posts: 3570

San Antonio, Texas, US

Well, everyone has great technically advanced cameras and cell phones now, so everyone who wants to call themselves a photographer, is now a photographer.  And many of those photographers like to take naked photos.  Thing is, I don't think I see a larger quantity of high quality nude photos compared to when photographers were still shooting film and printing nudes in the darkroom.  Now they just post their,  "they're ok" nude photos online.

Sep 26 14 11:01 pm Link

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Noah Russell

Posts: 609

Seattle, Washington, US

meget wrote:
...offers some wine to the model (provided the model isn't against it) and then gently nudges the model towards well stripping naked and making shots...

I'm sure someone has addressed this, if they have consider this a +1.

Getting a model intoxicated in order to push their boundaries is both unprofessional and creepy.

Cheers!
Noah

Sep 27 14 11:44 am Link

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R80

Posts: 2660

Marceline, Missouri, US

A friend sent me a link last night to a blogsite named "Every Woman is Beautiful".

I made it through 20 pages and was amazed by the number of images women had taken in the bathroom.  "Selfies", if you will.

We are flooded with sexual images almost constantly.  It seems to be a great sales aid for many products.  I think, due to this, nudity is far more accepted today than it was in the past, even during the eras that master painters focused on it.

Seems that if you have a rockin' bod you are more apt to be open to showing if off, or at least some folks may feel that way.  The thing is, you will only have it for a while. 

Nudity is up to the individual and their own acceptance of it.

Now me, I've refused to bring forth children until I'm sure the medical field can deliver my new offspring fully clothed, tux and tails preferably.

Sep 27 14 12:09 pm Link

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KyndraJ

Posts: 15

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Just a bunch of guys with cameras who want to see which girl will take their clothes off.

That's what I see. Not necessarily photography.

Sep 27 14 12:17 pm Link

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Figures Jen B

Posts: 790

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Don Garrett wrote:

Or so the propaganda in our media would like for you to believe. I think most Americans don't really give a shit ! And I can think of a bunch of groups, and individuals that are taking over the world very rapidly, nude photography is VERY low on that list.
-Don

I agree.

JenB

Sep 27 14 12:31 pm Link

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Greeneyed Goddess

Posts: 236

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

I have done over 200 photo shoots in my recently started 2 year modeling career and I was never persuaded into anything I would not want to do.

Sorry you have to witness that happening in the industry. Maybe it is normal for Russia? I've never modeled there even though I am from there originally and go back to visit pretty often.

Oct 22 14 12:27 pm Link

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Peter House

Posts: 888

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

As a society we have certainly become more open towards nudity and sex in general. It stands to logic that pictures of people will reflect their beliefs and surroundings at the time the image was taken. Nothing wrong with that.

Oct 22 14 12:43 pm Link

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F-Sequence Studio

Posts: 39

Los Angeles, California, US

Nude photography is boring unless you have a model that is completely on board and willing to do something cool and artistic.  "Here's my tits" type shots aren't that exciting.

I do a lot of boudoir photos and 95% of the time, I'd rather they brought an amazing outfit and just left their clothes on.

Oct 22 14 12:55 pm Link

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ontherocks

Posts: 23575

Salem, Oregon, US

i hadn't planned on shooting nude models when i joined mayhem but after a while it was like "what the heck, when in rome ..." plus there were some great traveling nude models available in my area. and ultimately we did manage to get paid for shooting boudoir for ladies as a gift to give to their man (although honestly i think it was as much about her as him).

in terms of plying models with alcohol in order to talk them into stuff i don't think that's a good idea. if you want a nude model then book a nude model. some photographers provide alcohol to help the model relax and that's more of a gray area. i guess the main thing is don't take advantage. either the model wants to shoot nudes or they don't and hopefully this was worked out in advance of the shoot. i have had non-nude models suddenly get topless but that was their choice (no alcohol involved).

however, providing alcohol to relax someone is common in the boudoir industry and sometimes you do encourage your customer to push it a bit but i think that's kind of expected and part of the "bucket list" appeal of the shoot. that said we did have one husband who got mad (there was no nudity on that shoot) and another situation where the lady never got back to us with her selects (she did do some awesome implied nudes with her husband's hard hat and tools).

as to why nudes are popular. well, duh. seriously though i wonder if you took all the money out of it how many would still do it. but there are lots of TF nude shoots. how about if you took all the exhibitionism out of it? if the images were only for private consumption. then how many tf shoots would happen? i think i'd still do it because the shoots are usually fun.

do women like staring at pictures of naked men? i was under the assumption that was more of a gay thing although i guess some women do enjoy male stripper shows.

Oct 22 14 01:12 pm Link

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Penumbra Photography

Posts: 593

Sacramento, California, US

I don't shoot nudes. The farthest I go is implied. If the model has her shirt off I make her wear pasties. But I definitely prefer clothed shoots to implied shoots. Just my personal taste though.

So from my perspective, I wouldn't say nudes are taking over.

Oct 22 14 02:20 pm Link

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Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

No......nudes are mostly getting common because of cell phone selfies, that people take of themselves.

If they were getting that common.......you wouldn't be hearing all the negative comments about models, especially the ones about models backing out of shoots.

Guys simply don't care as much. However, guys are not that much in demand, as models either, except for genuine commercial jobs.

Oct 22 14 03:21 pm Link

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Eyesso

Posts: 1218

Orlando, Florida, US

The Hellenistic period and the Renaissance definitely seem obsessed with "nudes".  Art seems to have suffered terribly during those times.  wink

Oct 22 14 04:08 pm Link

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Noah Russell

Posts: 609

Seattle, Washington, US

Penumbra Photography wrote:
If the model has her shirt off I make her wear pasties.

Where do you get your pasties? My eyes still haven't recovered from the last time I saw a woman's nipples. Every time I blink I see nipples and a little voice on my shoulder tells me I'm going to hell.

I kid! I kid! smile

I find it strange that woman nipples are taboo. But that's another topic and I'm sure it's been covered 1000 times. Sigh....

Cheers!
Noah

Oct 22 14 09:25 pm Link

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Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

As world resources become scarce (due to global market manipulation and greed perpetuated by central bankers), clothing will become smaller and near-nudity more common.  Apparel will be made with less and less fabric in the years to come.

The good news is that more skin exposure will reduce vitamin D deficiency and allow people to think more clearly so that evil-doers will be exposed to the masses and dealt with.

I am getting a jump on this up and coming fashion trend by launching a new website: http://www.Loincloths.org

It's just logical.

smile

Oct 23 14 11:35 am Link

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ms-photo

Posts: 538

Portland, Oregon, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
I have not noticed a dramatic rise in people wanting to make nude images of people in the last 500 years or so.

Then you are late to the party.  Google: Hohle Fels Venus

35,000 years ago.

Oct 26 14 03:10 am Link

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Darren Brade

Posts: 3351

London, England, United Kingdom

I blame those damned Greeks!

Oct 26 14 05:51 am Link

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Penumbra Photography

Posts: 593

Sacramento, California, US

Noah Russell wrote:

Where do you get your pasties? My eyes still haven't recovered from the last time I saw a woman's nipples. Every time I blink I see nipples and a little voice on my shoulder tells me I'm going to hell.

I kid! I kid! smile

I find it strange that woman nipples are taboo. But that's another topic and I'm sure it's been covered 1000 times. Sigh....

Cheers!
Noah

Haha, it's definitely not a 'Oh gawd, the sight of nipples is burned into my brain!' kind of thing, I want my models to feel comfortable in front of my camera. I find that if they wear pasties, they don't have that nagging sensation that there will be a nip slip. Thus, it lets them open up a little more with posing.

I think I would have already had a nervous break down at this point if nipples drove me crazy considering I own a pair.   D:

Nov 04 14 01:42 pm Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

Penumbra Photography wrote:

Haha, it's definitely not a 'Oh gawd, the sight of nipples is burned into my brain!' kind of thing, I want my models to feel comfortable in front of my camera. I find that if they wear pasties, they don't have that nagging sensation that there will be a nip slip. Thus, it lets them open up a little more with posing.

I think I would have already had a nervous break down at this point if nipples drove me crazy considering I own a pair.   D:

imh experience, most models haven't let this worry them.

Nov 04 14 09:48 pm Link

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Daniel Leon

Posts: 1389

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I truly hate this cheap tabloid style of writing.

Nothing is taking over anything.

Nov 04 14 09:59 pm Link

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alessandro2009

Posts: 8091

Florence, Toscana, Italy

IS nude photography rapidly taking over the world?

I do not think so, unfortunately, because if a day happened something like that finally would end all the dramas relating to this genre.

Nov 05 14 12:48 am Link

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JohnEnger

Posts: 868

Jessheim, Akershus, Norway

Darryl Varner wrote:
While I can't say for sure whether photographing nudes is 'taking over the world', I'm absolutely certain that naked women have done far less damage to the planet than fully dressed men.

Just mentioning that the op is a young good looking male model...

Nov 05 14 01:04 am Link

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JohnEnger

Posts: 868

Jessheim, Akershus, Norway

KyndraJ wrote:
Just a bunch of guys with cameras who want to see which girl will take their clothes off.

That's what I see. Not necessarily photography.

Once again jut saying the op is a male model...

Nov 05 14 01:07 am Link

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alessandro2009

Posts: 8091

Florence, Toscana, Italy

meget wrote:
Oh and just to add. Guys seem to do it for free while girls tend to charge a fee for getting naked... Whys that?

Simply to the law of market regard demand and offer for a specific job, nothing more nothing less.

Nov 05 14 01:28 am Link

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Wynd Mulysa

Posts: 8619

Berkeley, California, US

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Nov 05 14 11:41 pm Link