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Tim Summa

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San Antonio, Texas, US

Ok, this is weird but I swear I'm not making this up and am looking to see if others have found this to be true.

I was spending a lot of time in my garden, it is a second studio for me and I have worked on it for many years. I know the garden vary well as in Southwest Texas there are periods where it must be watered at least every other day or things will die.

About three weeks ago this started. I would be out watering or playing in the garden. I would feel something biting me and though a mosquito (as is so common here). The first three times I was truly amazed to take out a lady bug! They were stinging me and it left a welt smaller than a mosquito, but still a welt.

Since then it has happened multiple times. For me and my garden, the lady bugs are now like the mosquitos, see them, death.

Has any one else had this problem? Does anyone know the why and what of this change in attribute for the lady bug?

Oct 20 14 08:54 pm Link

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Cherrystone

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Columbus, Ohio, US

Tim Summa wrote:
Has any one else had this problem? Does anyone know the why and what of this change in attribute for the lady bug?

You might be seeing ladybug's evil twin cousin. wink

Oct 20 14 08:56 pm Link

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GK photo

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Laguna Beach, California, US

you sure it was a lady bug? i believe only the asian "lady beetle" will bite, but even then, not all the time.

Oct 20 14 08:58 pm Link

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Vintagevista

Posts: 11804

Sun City, California, US

I'm not saying its Zombie Ladybugs........

But,

It's Zombie Ladybugs......




And actually they are predators - and they are like T2 Terminators on aphids and the like.  It's getting towards fall and they are  - - hungry.  They are likely just testing to see if you are edible.


And they're Zombies... tongue

Oct 20 14 09:37 pm Link

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Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

evolution.  You are no longer at the top of the food chain in your garden.

Oct 20 14 09:52 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

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San Francisco, California, US

Vintagevista wrote:
It's Zombie Ladybugs......

...with ebola.

Oct 20 14 10:26 pm Link

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rfordphotos

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Antioch, California, US

Vintagevista wrote:
It's Zombie Ladybugs......

Paolo Diavolo wrote:
...with ebola.

and the OP  is in Texas. Aint that where it all started?

.......better quarantine the state. Probably should add New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana just to be safe. Close the airports. Better add seaports, train and bus stations too. Shut down the freeways.

....if those zombie ladybugs get a foothold- we are screwed!

Oct 20 14 10:55 pm Link

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Philip of Dallas

Posts: 834

Dallas, Texas, US

That bug was no lady!

Oct 20 14 11:06 pm Link

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Ralph Easy

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Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

It may be the dreaded Eutrombicula Alfreddugesi.

They look like tiny ladybugs but they are not...

https://insects.tamu.edu/extension/publ … /e-365.cfm

.

Oct 20 14 11:09 pm Link

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Kev Lawson

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

first I have ever heard of it... but I would heed the advice from those who spoke before me.

Oct 20 14 11:58 pm Link

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John Photography

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Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Next up the evolution ladder we get hellbugs.... For real.

https://defianceradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/hellbug1-full1.jpg

Oct 21 14 12:31 am Link

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Tropic Light

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Kailua, Hawaii, US

I was once in a Ladybug storm.  I was hiking down into the Yuba River Valley, and from above I could see some type of dark cloud down below, but I wasn't sure what it was.  As I continued the long downward trek, I encountered huge areas of flying Ladybugs, and large clumps the size of a fist swarming on the ground.  I've never seen anything like it before or since.  I must have entered a humongous hatch in process.  I had them all over me, but there were no bites.  Insects behave differently depending on conditions and motivations.  They might be capable of inflicting bites, if it's the right time of their annual cycle.  Honeybees behave very voraciously in the fall, but tend to be very easy in the Spring.  It may have something to do with the season, and their quest for sustenance.

Oct 21 14 12:31 am Link

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Tim Summa

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San Antonio, Texas, US

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:
It may be the dreaded Eutrombicula Alfreddugesi.

They look like tiny ladybugs but they are not...

https://insects.tamu.edu/extension/publ … /e-365.cfm

.

Thanks, I just though I would 'ask' here in the forums, but everyone is gearing up for Halloween so the rush of silly comments. But thanks for the heads up, I am vary aware of Texas A&M in Collage Station. These are not chiggers and they are not some species from Asia, these are common Americana Lady Bugs.

I am concerned, I will capture the next ones and off to Collage Station they will be shipped. The A&M needs to be given notice of these events. Sounds silly doesn’t it?

In 1978, early Summer, April into May a vary weird thing happened. Just prior to thunderstorms there is a shift in the charged particles in the atmosphere. What happened that summer was a truly strange event. Fire Ants were drawn to the electrical plates that are the switching triggers for water well systems. The ants would swarm over the charged plates across the south and east of San Antonio and the areas around the rural environments. We all collectively lost pumps because the solenoids were insulated from contact with the switching plates.

When Haskin’s Pump Service got to my place the guy off the truck said the service was overwhelmed with calls. Being a photographer with caned air we used it to blow hundreds of dead Fire Ants off the contact for my solenoid. I gave him a handful of the canisters to give to the other guys and when ever a thunderstorm showed we would wait till it passed and then went and lifted the contact plate and shot compressed air to rid the plates of dead Fire Ants.

It was ONLY Fire Ants and this went on from then on. I have not had a well in many years but I do know that A&M was investigating why the Fire Ants and only this type of ant was drawn to the electrical contacts during thunderstorms.

Everyone jokes about Texas A&M, but the jokes are only small ones…these guys do amazing work and they help everyone, not only farmers and ranchers. Them are good people at Collage Station.

Oct 21 14 01:28 am Link

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Lallure Photographic

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Taylors, South Carolina, US

Never experienced that in my over 30 years in TX. Fire ants.......that's another matter.

I gardened all the time, and my biggest problems were bees and wasps, besides fire ants. Of course, you always have to be watchful for snakes, anywhere you garden. There are plenty of ticks there, as well.

Interesting thing, is that red grapes, are a natural sun block. Found that very handy, with all those hours in the TX sun. Red wine also has those tannins.

Oct 21 14 07:30 am Link

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Model Sarah

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Columbus, Ohio, US

It's an Asian lady beetle. A native of Asia, this beneficial ladybug was imported in the early 1900's to help naturally control pest populations that were damaging such crops as alfalfa, pecan and citrus trees. They've released them more and more the past 15 years and they seem to be everywhere. But I've only ever seen them in northern Minnesota. I was modeling in the woods one day and was bitten by a ton of them. Never left any welts or anything just super annoying.

Oct 21 14 10:21 am Link

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Toto Photo

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Belmont, California, US

At first I thought you were loco but you seemed genuine so I Googled and found out you speak truth, even to the time of year... "When large numbers of beetles are flying in the fall, they often land on clothing and occasionally will bite or 'pinch' if in contact with skin. In nature, lady beetles eat other insects and have chewing mouthparts. The bite feels like a pinprick and is seldom serious."

From University of Kentucky on Ladybugs

Sorry to hear you're going to now kill them as they are great at killing insects that are harmful to your garden, on the other hand I'm not sure how many pinpricks I'd suffer before seeking revenge myself.

Oct 21 14 10:53 am Link

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Toto Photo

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Belmont, California, US

Model Sarah wrote:
It's an Asian lady beetle. A native of Asia, this beneficial ladybug was imported in the early 1900's to help naturally control pest populations that were damaging such crops as alfalfa, pecan and citrus trees. They've released them more and more the past 15 years and they seem to be everywhere. But I've only ever seen them in northern Minnesota. I was modeling in the woods one day and was bitten by a ton of them. Never left any welts or anything just super annoying.

Do you happen to remember what time of year?

Oct 21 14 10:55 am Link

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Herman Surkis

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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Re Asian Lady Beetle.

They often congregate in sunlit areas because of the heat available, so even on fairly cold winter days, some of the hibernating beetles will "wake up" because of solar heating. These large populations can be problematic because they can form swarms and linger in an area for a long time. These beetles can form groups that tend to stay in upper corners of windows. This beetle has been also found to be attracted to dark screening material for its warmth. This beetle has good eyesight, and will come back from where it was removed,

and is known to produce a small bite if provoked.[14]

H. axyridis, like other lady beetles or ladybirds, uses isopropyl methoxy pyrazine as a defensive chemical to deter predation, but also contains this chemical in its hemolymph at much higher concentrations than many other such species, along with species/genus-specific defensive compounds such as harmonine. These insects will "reflex bleed" when agitated, releasing hemolymph from their legs. The liquid has a foul odour (similar to that of dead leaves) and can cause stains. Some people have allergic reactions, including allergic rhinoconjunctivitis when exposed to these beetles.[1]

Sometimes, the beetles will bite humans,[1] presumably in an attempt to acquire salt, although many people feel a pricking sensation as a lady beetle walks across the skin, which is just the pressure from the ladybird's feet. Bites normally do no more harm than cause irritation, although a small number of people are allergic to bites.[15]

Oct 21 14 10:59 am Link

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Model Sarah

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Columbus, Ohio, US

Toto Photo wrote:

Do you happen to remember what time of year?

Ehh....I only go to Minnesota three times a year and I'm 90% positive it was the summer, so probably July. It was two or three years ago. They were pretty bad. They were on the north shore in the woods where the sun was and also on the bluffs of the Mississippi in Wisconsin as well.

Oct 21 14 01:35 pm Link

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Model Sarah

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Columbus, Ohio, US

Herman Surkis wrote:
Re Asian Lady Beetle.

They often congregate in sunlit areas because of the heat available, so even on fairly cold winter days, some of the hibernating beetles will "wake up" because of solar heating. These large populations can be problematic because they can form swarms and linger in an area for a long time. These beetles can form groups that tend to stay in upper corners of windows. This beetle has been also found to be attracted to dark screening material for its warmth. This beetle has good eyesight, and will come back from where it was removed,

and is known to produce a small bite if provoked.[14]

H. axyridis, like other lady beetles or ladybirds, uses isopropyl methoxy pyrazine as a defensive chemical to deter predation, but also contains this chemical in its hemolymph at much higher concentrations than many other such species, along with species/genus-specific defensive compounds such as harmonine. These insects will "reflex bleed" when agitated, releasing hemolymph from their legs. The liquid has a foul odour (similar to that of dead leaves) and can cause stains. Some people have allergic reactions, including allergic rhinoconjunctivitis when exposed to these beetles.[1]

Sometimes, the beetles will bite humans,[1] presumably in an attempt to acquire salt, although many people feel a pricking sensation as a lady beetle walks across the skin, which is just the pressure from the ladybird's feet. Bites normally do no more harm than cause irritation, although a small number of people are allergic to bites.[15]

Yeah I hit a clearing in the woods where the sun was and that's where they were. Swarms of them.

Oct 21 14 01:36 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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Dearborn, Michigan, US

I have never been bitten by a ladybug.

Oct 21 14 03:13 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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Dearborn, Michigan, US

Model Sarah wrote:
It's an Asian lady beetle. A native of Asia, this beneficial ladybug was imported in the early 1900's to help naturally control pest populations that were damaging such crops as alfalfa, pecan and citrus trees. They've released them more and more the past 15 years and they seem to be everywhere. But I've only ever seen them in northern Minnesota. I was modeling in the woods one day and was bitten by a ton of them. Never left any welts or anything just super annoying.

I was bitten by swarms of mosquitoes a few weeks ago in northern Michigan.  They are not usually around this late.  It is probably because of all the rain this year.

Oct 21 14 03:17 pm Link

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Tim Summa

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San Antonio, Texas, US

Toto Photo wrote:
At first I thought you were loco but you seemed genuine so I Googled and found out you speak truth, even to the time of year... "When large numbers of beetles are flying in the fall, they often land on clothing and occasionally will bite or 'pinch' if in contact with skin. In nature, lady beetles eat other insects and have chewing mouthparts. The bite feels like a pinprick and is seldom serious."

From University of Kentucky on Ladybugs

Sorry to hear you're going to now kill them as they are great at killing insects that are harmful to your garden, on the other hand I'm not sure how many pinpricks I'd suffer before seeking revenge myself.

Thank you! I am apparently not crazy.
A friend of mine who models for me has a sister, a vet, grad of A&M who just confirmed that I am indeed not crazy. At this time of year but at any time the common version of the Lady Bug can indeed deliver a bite and is not uncommon. Thing is that these silly critters are not just delivering a bite but are biting and hanging on. When it is on an area I can not see (like my back) I just do that natural thing and whack them.

On another note the part about wasp and hornets, as a control problem. If you are having an issue with these little fellers there is an old country trick. Painting under eves or even the insides of barns and out buildings a color that is between orange and red, more in the direction of red will keep these flying critters from building nests as well as making them just not interested in these surfaces. I lived in the country and found this worked in the garage, out buildings and along the edge of the house.

Again, thanks for the help!

Oct 24 14 05:02 am Link

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Jim Ball

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Frontenac, Kansas, US

"Lady Bugs Bite" sounds like a good name for an all girl punk band. big_smile

Oct 24 14 01:23 pm Link

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Tim Summa

Posts: 2514

San Antonio, Texas, US

Jim Ball wrote:
"Lady Bugs Bite" sounds like a good name for an all girl punk band. big_smile

Now don't you start in with that!

I got a set of cheesy lady bug wings and they sit in the storage section of the props. Now if I get vary naughty in my mind (vary easy with me), I could use these with liquid latex and do a Halloween shoot...thing is making the big jaw to bite...hummmmmm...or perhaps a stinger!

Where did I put that box with the anal beads...

Oct 24 14 07:07 pm Link