AndrewG wrote:

bummer..

But I went to the site and did a lookup of my MM number and it said I wasnt a member.

"Sorry, that user is not a member of ShootNotes."

Because nobody (except for me and Brian and SLE) are activated at this point. I'm ready to allow everyone to activate, just as soon as I can validate the badge on a profile.

UPoz4me wrote:
So if it says "Sorry, model or photographer only right now." It's only because you need to verify?

Yup. That means that it didn't see the appropriate kind of account. In this case, it's seeing NO account, because all it's getting back is the MM error about only members being able to view profiles.

UPoz4me wrote:
So if it says "Sorry, model or photographer only right now." It's only because you need to verify?

There. Now it'll tell you why, instead of giving the other error.

CLT wrote:
- I was unable to verifiy my account. It told me "models and photographers only"

Your other comments have been incorporated into the bug/feature list.

This error is because Tyler has turned off the ability for non-members to see profiles. There is now a better error message.

CLT wrote:
I edited my list.

Noted. I've already changed all instances of "Activate" to "Verify" to make this more clear, and changed the text in the bottom and called it, "I want to use ShootNotes!"

I'll look into making the login module a little more obvious - or adding a more obvious one to display in the main section.

The error currently being shown has been changed to properly inform people that I can't hit MM right now.

And I'll look into the badge. I'm actually considering changing the text to display the Model Mayhem number - which will allow one to see, at a glance, that the badge corresponds to the account it's on. The system has other ways to detect cheating, but humans are good at that, too :-)

Thanks, CLT.

King of the Letter L wrote:

Because nobody (except for me and Brian and SLE) are activated at this point. I'm ready to allow everyone to activate, just as soon as I can validate the badge on a profile.

Yay, I r speshul!

Jon Tiffin wrote:
Nice work on this Chris. Will we all get an email to advise that our a/c has moved from 'verify' to 'activated'  ?

I will send out a broadcast letting everyone know that they can activate their account as soon as Tyler re-enables public viewing, yes.

In the meantime, I'm taking advantage of the wait and working on some of the phase 2 features - so anyone with any problems or ideas, please let me know (like CLT did, above).

Thanks.

King of the Letter L wrote:

I will send out a broadcast letting everyone know that they can activate their account as soon as Tyler re-enables public viewing, yes.

In the meantime, I'm taking advantage of the wait and working on some of the phase 2 features - so anyone with any problems or ideas, please let me know (like CLT did, above).

Thanks.

Is Tyler just processing your req'st or ??, What if Tyler doesn't want to turn on Public Viewing? Will you have a work-a-round?

King of the Letter L wrote:

I will send out a broadcast letting everyone know that they can activate their account as soon as Tyler re-enables public viewing, yes.

In the meantime, I'm taking advantage of the wait and working on some of the phase 2 features - so anyone with any problems or ideas, please let me know (like CLT did, above).

Thanks.

Love your idea and can't wait till your able to activate some of us old folks....

Mike Stalnaker wrote:
I signed up and went to verify my account and got this message, what now?

Apologies, but Model Mayhem is prohibiting non-members from viewing profiles at this time. As such, your account cannot be verified.

See above :-)

I hope Tyler will turn it back on soon. If not, I have a workaround, but I'd rather not use it, as it requires extra hits to Model Mayhem, and I'm trying to play nice.

Fotographia Fantastique wrote:
O.K., I must be doing something wrong. The badge still says that I am still in the process of activating my account.

But when I saw your latest post, I went to verify again and got the message:

"Sorry, only one ShootNotes badge is allowed per account. I'm sure you understand."

So am I active or not?

same here..

John Jebbia wrote:
Hey Chris... A couple of things I wonder about.

Should people only be allowed to Vouch for and create notes for other Shoot Notes members? This way it's truly an opt in sorta thing.

Also, Do you have a security feature to keep people from killing their account then re-opening a new account if/when they get a negative?

1. No. You can vouch for anyone based on their MM number. But if they're not a ShootNotes member, that vouching won't show up until/unless they sign up, at which point it'll show up as if by magic. For phase one, vouching, it's just a single positive boolean value that means, "Yes, I'll vouch for this person."

2. How would this work? If you get negatives, you can kill your ShootNotes account, and remove your badge, but if you ever sign up again, you're still doing so under the same MM number, so those values are still there. Sure, you could open a brand new MM account and "start over," but that's a pain in the ass, isn't it? And anyone can do that now. Phase 2 will deal with negative information and how it's managed. I do believe I have the solution to this.

Consider the current situation: you, John Jebbia, piss off a horde of people when you start acting like a Fascist dirt farmer and ruin your reputation. What do you do? Kill your Model Mayhem account and create a new one? Okay... now you have a new account on Model Mayhem, a new, fake name, and nobody has vouched for you.

But for now, phase 1 is just the positive "vouch for" and, shortly, the positive "I worked with this person" notation.

Fotographia Fantastique wrote:
A minor detail to be sure, but it's a quibble I have with most counters (and that script someone wrote that creates a bar graph of profile traffic). It is misleading info.

Yup. Right now it's just counting, to make sure that it can handle the load and discriminate the hits. Once this beta is done, I'll reset the value and start counting unique IPs as a single hit in a 24 hour period as well as some other metrics.

Walk, then run :-)

John Jebbia wrote:
Ok.. if someone vouches for you, is there any way to find out who it is?

Not right now, but within the next few days, yes. The order of phase one features:

1. Verification (done)
2. Vouch-For (done)
3. Worked-With
4. Reporting

I'm working on #3 right now.

King of the Letter L wrote:

Not right now, but within the next few days, yes. The order of phase one features:

1. Verification (done)
2. Vouch-For (done)
3. Worked-With
4. Reporting

I'm working on #3 right now.

I'm assuming that Reporting will be where people can post their gripes. I'm fine with that, but my biggest issue with the Industry Blacklist website was that photographers and models could only read their respective forums.

If someone's going to blacklist someone I think that it certainly should not be anonymously and the person being blacklisted should definitely have the opportunity to counter.

John Jebbia wrote:

I'm assuming that Reporting will be where people can post their gripes. I'm fine with that, but my biggest issue with the Industry Blacklist website was that photographers and models could only read their respective forums.

If someone's going to blacklist someone I think that it certainly should not be anonymously and the person being blacklisted should definitely have the opportunity to counter.

Agreed.
Another problem with the blacklist site was that hardly anyone knew about/used it. So it really had very little effect. I do like the ShootNotes system of positive vouching for someone over the blacklist site which was just as I recall negative reporting.

normad wrote:
it spits source code out man, you might want to fix that ...

I have no problem with anyone seeing the source of the emitter right now :-)

And, being a beta, you'll get the occasional error when I make major changes. Betas, I hack running code. Production, I hack on a staging server.

Victor M wrote:
I can't see any badge code in the text box...can someone please provide me with it? Thanks!

What's your OS and browser. Two people have had this issue but nobody has given me any OS/browser info.

King of the Letter L wrote:
I'm also considering paying my attorney for a patent search on the validation system I created.

I would expect nothing less from you.

John Jebbia wrote:
I'm assuming that Reporting will be where people can post their gripes. I'm fine with that, but my biggest issue with the Industry Blacklist website was that photographers and models could only read their respective forums.

If someone's going to blacklist someone I think that it certainly should not be anonymously and the person being blacklisted should definitely have the opportunity to counter.

No, reporting is how everyone can see who has done the vouching for each member and also see the reports of who claims to have worked with whom, and their notes on that shoot. The vast majority of the data points are "if you have nothing nice to say, you can't say anything." That is, you can either vouch for someone (a positive data point) or not (no data point).

That said, when you say you've worked with someone, you can leave notes that do include negative information. If that member is also on ShootNotes, they can respond to your report with their data points. In all but one field, those data points are constrained - they're not free-form. One field is a free-form text field, though, where you can type whatever you want.

There are two more aspects of "Worked-With" that might make the lightbulb go on. First, if you state that you've worked with a member, they're notified, so members don't have to go hunting down reports on them. Both an email when the record is created as well as a report that'll give you a list.

Second, you can create a "Worked-With" entry for an upcoming shoot, which then enables the ability for BOTH parties to acknowledge, before the shoot, that it's scheduled. Then, afterwards, BOTH parties can state how it went.

I trust this last part just made a bunch of you say, "Holy crap, I get it!" :-)

King of the Letter L wrote:

What's your OS and browser. Two people have had this issue but nobody has given me any OS/browser info.

Badge code for me is empty too - winxp/firefox 2.0.0.9

King of the Letter L wrote:
What's your OS and browser. Two people have had this issue but nobody has given me any OS/browser info.

IE7 - 7.0.5730.11
winxp pro 2 with latest security patches.

Laptop -  2gig RAM - 2 Ghz

2 gig paging space with 45 gig free HD

King of the Letter L wrote:
Okay, pre-verification badge code is fixed. Another dumb bug on my part. I think I need a break and some caffeine :-)

Thanks