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Do Strippers Make Good Models ?
Tracii Taylor wrote: i totally see your point...but, still, you must admit, not ALL dancers/strippers are perfect models, or even using your example - not all are photogenic/sexy/etc. May 08 10 08:16 pm Link I probably have at least 5 in my present MM portfolio, all dancers at high-end strip clubs. It is totally inappropriate to stereotype these women. I've shot strippers that range from those who were probably challenged to graduate high school, all the way to those that I would categorize as brilliant and immensely talented artists. I've found the same sort of range in their modeling ability. Bottom line, they can't be stereotyped any more than any other female on this site, or more than some of the people who call themselves "photographers" on this site. It's always better to evaluate people objectively and without stereotypes. May 08 10 08:45 pm Link Ethereal Pixels wrote: Gotta agree here. May 08 10 08:49 pm Link The hardest part about shooting strippers is actually getting them to show up for a shoot. If you can get them there, they work out great. May 08 10 08:51 pm Link I have shot with 3 strippers. One was great. She was a little late, but, called to let me know she was on her way, but, going to be late, but, she was fantastic to work with. The second one is one of my best friends and she is great. Takes her work seriously and knows how to pose. The third one, I would never work with again. She showed up to the shoot almost an hour late, then took two hours to get ready. I almost told her to go home, but, when she was ready we got some really nice shots, but, she was hard to work with and hard to please, hard to take direction. So some are great, some are not, it depends on the person really like any model. May 08 10 08:55 pm Link Christopher Hartman wrote: LMFAO!!!!!!!!! May 08 10 09:58 pm Link i can tell you that they are very comfortable with themselves and their body. May 08 10 10:00 pm Link In case no one has already mentioned it, strippers are essentially dancers, and we all know dancers' legs are firm and toned. May 08 10 10:02 pm Link In my recent personal experience I would say, set up ground rules and stick to them. 1.You may find some beautiful strippers that will pose nude for you for free, but I doubt it. And honestly, if you made your living undressing, would you suddenly decide to do that for free? And I respect that. 2.NEVER pay a stripper in advance of the shoot. If she bails you will seldom, no never, get your money back. (Sorry dancers, but it's happened to me twice.) 3. Until a model proves herself reliable, never plan any shoot too grand or with other models. I have had to apologize many times for someone elses behavior and still pay the other model that did show. Remember, dancers are conditioned to be very nice to folks they meet in the club. That unfortunately, does not always hold up outside the club. And oddly enough, never assume a dancer that is nude most of their work day, wants photographic evidence of this laying around. Many of these dancers all have master plans that include denying this lifestyle as soon as they are able to do so. J.C./DD. May 08 10 10:41 pm Link yes... May 08 10 10:42 pm Link Thomas DelPorte wrote: it was Thomas Delporte that made the statement "Some strippers may be open to ..... " May 08 10 10:53 pm Link Garry k wrote: What is with all these old threads being bumped? May 08 10 11:07 pm Link Garry k wrote: I did not write that... you have mis quoted me...I have never Danced lol May 09 10 07:07 am Link no generally speaking they do not (and i know people are saying dont stereotype them, but there are stereotypes, everyone falls into a stereotype of some sort one way or another..i.e asians generally make good students, people from the south gnerally listen to country music (instead of rap), its just like profiling, the 20 something yearold muslim guy buying a one way ticket at the last minute in cash back to iran is generally a terrorist) the reason, aside from not showing up, is that they are 'generally' 1 dimensional now it all depends what you want them for? a 10 hour magazine editorial shoot? no way would i rely on a stripper to carry a editorial piece, however, if your doing a 1 hour shoot for T&A, then yeah, maybe some of them can do it ditto for glamour models, its been my experience on MM the last 5 years, that most MM glamour models are not really that good for anything other than T&A, they are also 1 dimensional, they are too self conscienous about their bodies and how they are looking on film, and end up "generally" not being able to give me the looks i need now i must praise the fashion model and print models, bc they can do glamour along with fashion, they can work a 10-12 hour day, and still look great at the 11th hour, they can give you a range of facial looks and expressions, they can do runway, they can do live interviews and improvise...again "generally speaking" May 09 10 07:35 am Link As a photographer that's in the Atlanta, I would say that stripper probably has a better chance of being successful than a typical model. they are usually better looking, more fit and flexible, have a demonstrated work ethic and know how to actually show up for a gig and perform. Let's not get it twisted, stripper take clothes off and perform in front of a live audience. The only fundamental difference between a stripper and a model is that there is no camera. May 09 10 09:44 am Link Karol Helms wrote: This is why I think they can be a great choice, many are very mature and professional and are not afraid of "showing" something to the photographer. Many are actual dancers and can create some amazing shots, but they do look at you odd if you don't have them undress; my only issue. May 09 10 06:47 pm Link If you think I'm a good model, then yes. If you think not, then no. But every woman is different and will be good at different things at different times in their lives. I will say, that I strongly feel that I am better off, both in my modeling career and in life generally, for having lived that kind of existence... Cheers, ~ree May 09 10 07:04 pm Link reebound wrote: I think Ms Ree Ja's port should end the discussion May 09 10 07:10 pm Link D a r y l wrote: Wow. I just looked at her port. Awesome doesn't begin to cover it. And to May 09 10 07:29 pm Link Oh my eyes... geez. If someone is so narrow as to stereotype someone who dances, come out of your shell. And I probably said this 2 years ago even. May 09 10 07:38 pm Link 3 Bees Digital wrote: I am not clear what the point of throwing that photo into the thread is ,,,,if the photographer or the model would like a critique of the photo ,there is another forum for such May 09 10 10:21 pm Link Do Strippers Make Good Models ? I don't think there is an automatic correlation. May 10 10 12:38 am Link Some do, but many don't. One of the biggest problems in trying to work with some strippers, is that they have $25 a dance mentality. When they bring that to a shoot, it usually becomes a train wreck pretty quickly. This Q is like most involving people - there is no set answer. May 10 10 12:46 am Link MS Karol you have mad skills on the pole for sure that was great to watch. The peopke at the clubs you work at would have to be dead not to see how great you are at that thanks for the link to it May 10 10 02:48 am Link Feral Oneiric wrote: I agree! I agree....however some of my BEST shots are with strippers!...I've just had good luck I guess. May 10 10 02:51 am Link May 10 10 04:10 am Link Lauren Klemm wrote: I know, right? Dec 13 14 10:13 am Link But those of you who are working with them - are you actually asking them at the club? How does that work? Dec 13 14 10:14 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Dec 13 14 10:19 am Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
Dec 13 14 10:27 am Link Christopher Hartman wrote: I agree! Dec 13 14 11:09 am Link Have a look at "Georgia" in my gallery. She's a stripper - you tell me if she's a good model or not. The general concensus so far is that she's pretty hot. Dec 13 14 07:16 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Paging Doc Brown, we need the Delorean to go back to 2010 to ask how it's working out for them... Dec 13 14 08:11 pm Link Garry k wrote: No. Not very dependable - even if you are paying them. Dec 13 14 08:22 pm Link Garry k wrote: Well, there a only 3 looks a model needs to know: Dec 13 14 08:32 pm Link JQuest wrote: I'm pretty sure there are still strip clubs even in our enlightened age. Dec 13 14 09:15 pm Link Umm I'm sure some could be good nude/glamour models But just to point something out There are no real "fashion images " I'm your port Mostly what I see is glamour Dec 13 14 09:26 pm Link way back in Jul 26 2008 at 12:52 pm , when this post was first made. I was, in a different country, doing bad things, to bad people. BUT had I been asked, back then, I'd have said ; "All the strippers I know, would make wonderful models. But there are Some strippers I have seen, that would not." Dec 13 14 09:30 pm Link Art Nudes wrote: do they still do 3 weeks on followed by 3 weeks off on the Rigs? Dec 13 14 10:01 pm Link It depends on the Stripper. Some do a lot of modeling and are good, some don't and are not. The problem is most are flaky as hell. The don't make good clients either as they are flaky as hell and always broke somehow even when making $300-$2000 a night! So make sure that you get a deposit of 50% upfront that is non-refundable if you ever have one as a client because they might not show up because did I mention, they are flaky as hell! The good news is if they pay you and they don't show you just made 50% for not working. * I'm speaking from personal experience not only as a photographer but also because I have dated way too many strippers and watched them flake on other people and lose deposits to other photographers. Dec 13 14 10:21 pm Link |
