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Do Strippers Make Good Models ?
As the OP - I am trying to remember why i started this thread over 6 years ago I think because at the time there was a lot of talk in the forums about strippers and i really was not familiar with that subculture although we had a very active local fashion scene at the time ( including 2 fashion weeks ) my city's once thriving striptease scene had largely evaporated There were a few clubs left but I never followed through to find out anything more about the matter Dec 14 14 01:48 am Link Nico Simon Princely wrote: You Sir sound like the voice of authority on the matter and I will take your word on your contribution Dec 14 14 01:57 am Link BIP wrote: If this is directed at me ( the OP of the thread ) Dec 14 14 01:59 am Link Garry k wrote: I wouldn't seek out strippers just because you think they'll be open to getting nude in front of a camera (many won't be) Dec 14 14 02:14 am Link Some models work as strippers. Some strippers work as models. I've photographed strippers, escorts, porn stars, professional and amateur models, singers, - there's no real correlation here between one and the other. You find your niche. Dec 14 14 09:21 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: It was silliness, loosen up... Dec 14 14 10:16 am Link Virtual Studio wrote: Generally speaking it's two weeks on two off, but there are all sorts of different arrangements for the oil industry now. I know guys who work out of Thailand, Azerbijan, Venezuela, Nigeria, Brazil, Angola. Anywhere there's oil, you'll find guys from Aberdeen. I presume you've been there, done that? Dec 14 14 10:30 am Link hbutz New York wrote: +1 I have had models that worked as Lawyers, Salespeople, Managers, Computer Programmers, Executive Assistants, Bankers, Real Estate Agents, Graphic Designers, Photographers, Mothers, Housewives, Waitress, Bartender, Yoga Instructor, Professional Dancers, Motorcycle Racers, Strippers, Escorts, Porn Stars, Singers, Professional Models and Amateur Models. There is ABSOLUTELY NO correlation between one and the other! Dec 14 14 10:33 am Link JQuest wrote: Dec 14 14 10:43 am Link Garry k wrote: Nudes of Coco? Cool. Dec 14 14 01:08 pm Link Herman Surkis wrote: do you enjoy trolling the forums Herman ? Dec 14 14 02:29 pm Link I've worked with three strippers, and all of them were reliable and fun to work with. The only issue I had was one of the strippers found religion and offered to pay me to get rid of all of the nude images of her. Since she was totally nice about it I just did it and didn't take any money from her. So even that one worked out ok since it was a TFP shoot back in the film days, and I developed my own slides. Strippers are just people, some are really good people and some aren't. Just take each one as an individual and you'll do ok. Dec 15 14 01:54 am Link Garry k wrote: I forgot to mention I also worked in a strip club as security. The are not all flakes I have one in my portfolio that was reliable at that time but lately, not so much. Dec 15 14 03:38 am Link When photography was my main business I had a few escort businesses as clients. I was taking pictures of the women wearing lingerie for their websites. Like someone had mentioned most of them are money-oriented and really unpleasant when not paid to be pleasant. I avoid them and would not consider them for modeling for me. My experience with strippers is limited but the half a dozen I''ve taken pictures of were pretty much just as bitchy as the escorts. Only the newbs were pleasant to be around but I guess they either turned or got out of the business. I guess I can''t blame them, they deal with male assholes on their jobs and can''t or don''t want to turn the bitch off when in non-sexwork setting with a guy. Dec 19 14 10:43 am Link Can do, but depends on baggage -- how burnt out or jaded they are, drug dependency, gang affiliations .... My limited experience has been good. Lovely and engaging. Dec 19 14 11:11 pm Link Garry k wrote: depending on the genre, Yes. Dec 20 14 05:18 am Link There''s a total of 11 (current and former) ''exotic dancers'' (I hate the term ''stripper'' as it''s such a derogatory reference) on this 500 image portfolio. Can you pick them out? I consider ALL of them to be fantastic models... and that's my answer to the original post...  Dec 20 14 08:06 am Link KModel Photography wrote: QFT hbutz New York wrote: I did the same but arrived to different and less oversimplified conclusion. Garry k wrote: OP Dec 20 14 09:18 am Link The obvious line of thinking with strippers is that they are, generally, attractive bold willing to do nude and also likely have decent availability unless you need night shoots when they are more likely to be working The difference is that the kinds of things strippers do, doesn''t necessarily translate well into modelling. if you''re doing a glamour shoot, they might have the sexy alluring face you''re looking for, but they don''t really need to practice or focus any other facial emotions in their job. Their job also focuses more on movement than it does holding still, they don''t have to strike a lot of typical model poses doing their job. They might do some promo shots or something for ads, but that isn''t what they usually do. I''ve had very little issue even with regular off the street girls willing to do nudity, so other than a slightly higher chance that they''d want to do nudity, I can''t see anything about being a stripper that would really make them a better model than any random person you meet. Dec 20 14 09:37 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Well, I can see no one is going to answer the question I bumped this thread to ask. Dec 20 14 09:55 pm Link hbutz New York wrote: Exactly, they're no different than most models. To ASSume that because they may get at least partially nude when they dance that they'll do it in front of the camera is wishful thinking. Most strippers I know turn on and off that personality when they walk in or out of the club. Dec 25 14 01:35 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: I would never ask one of them at a club. I know many personally. Their lives are about money in there. But as I was told more than once. almost everything someone they don't know says to them in there will come across as BS. They have a hard time believing anything a customer says. Almost anyone in there separates real life from anything that goes on once inside the door. Dec 25 14 01:38 pm Link Miss KH wrote: Really? Dec 25 14 02:04 pm Link TL;DR Jumping right in. It's more important to get a sense for the the person before hand. There are exceptions to every "rule". However ... I've photographed a few and there are a some common traits that can be a huge advantage or make things difficult. Just remember that everyone is different, so generalisations will never cover everyone. I find that strippers are extremely proficient at projecting outwards and being flamboyant in a feminine (sometimes almost aggressive) way. If you want a shoot like that then it'll come natural for them in no time. If you want them to go inwards and be closed, emotional, under-played and concentrate on feelings over projecting outwards in a big way, then your results will vary. Some can do both, but it's not the latter that they have years of experience showcasing - unless that is their gimmick of course. Overall though I've yet to meet a stripper who couldn't deliver a good photo. Talk a bit with a person and get a sense of what they contain. Many of these girls are multi-faceted, interesting and intelligent women with more of a story to them than people give them credit for. Dec 30 14 07:11 am Link Strippers are unreliable and often flake. Hate the breast augmentations and they typically have a real attitude. Far from my favorite Jan 01 15 11:03 pm Link Usually good, but one only had sexy expressions inappropriate for artistic shots. Jan 02 15 12:03 am Link Don't know if I ever have since I don't get into their private lives nor have I frequented any local clubs to scout. However, one motorcycle tour going to Lassen Volcanic National Park had a lay-over in Chico, CA for a night. I decided I needed more warm duds for the trip and looked in the phone book and found some biker clothing shop north of town on Hwy.99. So off I went. Once I found it, it was closed. Some guy wandered over from next door at a strip club called "Centerfolds" and asked if "I was a local?" He said he needed five judges for amateur night at the club and wanted non-locals so the judging wouldn't be favorable or fixed. Gave me a pass and to come back at 8 PM. "Haven't been in one in decades so "What the heck? Beats laying around in this motel room." so off I go and got my official judge's clipboard. Actually had a good time as judge with the 12 amateurs who were coached by the pros and some pole dance state winner who was very good. Most were coeds from Chico State University which had some claim to fame as a big party school back then. When I left, I wanted a photo taken with a few near my motorcycle. Some take a smoking break outside so who cared? Anyway, the manager came running out saying "That taking a photo with the strippers was illegal as they had a run in with the Butte County sheriff who viewed that as prostitution." So I got a signed poster instead. Go figger. Jan 02 15 05:55 am Link You will find that what they will do in a club, and what they will do in front of a camera, are NOT one and the same thing. Garry k wrote: Jan 02 15 12:52 pm Link The problem with hiring a stripper is that at every shoot she is going to expect it to RAIN. Jan 10 15 03:08 pm Link Yes, never had a problem with them  Mar 03 15 07:55 pm Link none in my current port but had many help me 20 yrs ago when first started glam shoots....wasn't a problem then...hmmm...should look into this? Mar 03 15 08:12 pm Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Yeah! Some are good, some are just bat-shit crazy!!:-))) Mar 03 15 08:29 pm Link Miss KH wrote: Ms KH worked out quite well for me Mar 04 15 09:35 am Link Why would being a stripper have any correlation with a girl's ability to model? Mar 05 15 12:35 am Link |
