Chick Habit wrote:

Is it me, but are the ones hollering "they want to fuck me" are the ones you wouldn't want to fuck?

Solstice Rain wrote:
I'm not a photographer, but I'd like to sleep with a couple models. It's ok, the photographer I'm sleeping with won't mind.

Rozetta Marie wrote:
What the hell? Why can't someone be able to do a sexy or even nude shoot without the phone call or text msg or email that comes after it... "I was looking at the pics from our shoot and your body is amazing... we should really hang out sometime... go get a drink... I'll even cook you dinner... you know just showing you my gratitude for such a great shoot..."

Oh yeah... and the ones that don't want you to bring an escort only because in the back of their minds they want to try their hand at getting you to sleep with them after or even during the shoot!

And then when you play them, they go after your close personal friends... but little do they know your close personal friends are even crazier than you. LOL

OK... just had to get that off my chest.

thanks for listening.

Ok... just to clarify since no one reads anymore... (and this is not toward any one in particular, and I haven't read the rest of the responses past page 3...) but when I said I "played him" the translation from "ebonics" to "english" is that I made him feel stupid by saying "no". He must have thought I was like other models who do actually put themselves out there (which we all know some do). So I let him know I wasn't like that and I'm mad because that was after I already referred him to my friend. Now... he doesn't know she's a close personal friend. He just thinks she's another model that maybe I've worked with before, so he approached her and she called and told me about it and was very upset. I apologized for having even referred him to her and told her what he did with me.
I also want to say I'm very proud of those of you who've contacted me personally to share your experiences and to give me advice. I'm not above getting advice and admitting that there were things I could have done differently.

*****This thread will soon be deleted when I figure out how, so I thank all of you for taking the time to respond*****

Have a blessed and safe career!

"Neglect not the gift that is in thee..."

Rozetta Marie wrote:

Ok... just to clarify since no one reads anymore... (and this is not toward any one in particular, and I haven't read the rest of the responses past page 3...) but when I said I "played him" the translation from "ebonics" to "english" is that I made him feel stupid by saying "no". He must have thought I was like other models who do actually put themselves out there (which we all know some do). So I let him know I wasn't like that and I'm mad because that was after I already referred him to my friend. Now... he doesn't know she's a close personal friend. He just thinks she's another model that maybe I've worked with before, so he approached her and she called and told me about it and was very upset. I apologized for having even referred him to her and told her what he did with me.
I also want to say I'm very proud of those of you who've contacted me personally to share your experiences and to give me advice. I'm not above getting advice and admitting that there were things I could have done differently.

*****This thread will soon be deleted when I figure out how, so I thank all of you for taking the time to respond*****

Have a blessed and safe career!

"Neglect not the gift that is in thee..."

Note:  You CANNOT delete a thread.

Rozetta Marie wrote:

Ok... just to clarify since no one reads anymore... (and this is not toward any one in particular, and I haven't read the rest of the responses past page 3...) but when I said I "played him" the translation from "ebonics" to "english" is that I made him feel stupid by saying "no". He must have thought I was like other models who do actually put themselves out there (which we all know some do). So I let him know I wasn't like that and I'm mad because that was after I already referred him to my friend. Now... he doesn't know she's a close personal friend. He just thinks she's another model that maybe I've worked with before, so he approached her and she called and told me about it and was very upset. I apologized for having even referred him to her and told her what he did with me.
I also want to say I'm very proud of those of you who've contacted me personally to share your experiences and to give me advice. I'm not above getting advice and admitting that there were things I could have done differently.

*****This thread will soon be deleted when I figure out how, so I thank all of you for taking the time to respond*****

Have a blessed and safe career!

"Neglect not the gift that is in thee..."

I'll be the one to quote this before you delete is.

You can't delete threads.  You've made your impression.  It's yours to keep.

4C 41 42 wrote:

I'll be the one to quote this before you delete is.

You can't delete threads.  You've made your impression.  It's yours to keep.

ok. cool. i wasn't sure.

MARTHARLIE KETH wrote:
TELL ME ABOUT IT...I'M HERE TO SET MY GOALS AND HAVE PHOTOGRAPGHER WHO IS OFFERING TFP..I'M LOOKING FOR TRADE... FOR PRINT NOT TRADE FOR SEX! >
BUT I GUESS IT HAPPENS N WE JUST HAVE TO LEAVE WITH IT AND AS A WOMEN IF YOU DONT WANT TO GIVE IT UP, YOU DONT HAVE TO. MOVE ON THEIR OTHER OPPORTUNITY. 8) MARTHARLIE KETH

.... SLE, I'm back (You can't just NOT watch a trainwreck) and I want to cry even harder now. Make it sstttooopppp!

Rozetta Marie wrote:
but when I said I "played him" the translation from "ebonics" to "english" is that I made him feel stupid by saying "no".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=played

Jade Noir wrote:

Well, then run along you happy Scandinavian.

Hehehe...

Rozetta Marie wrote:
Ok... just to clarify since no one reads anymore... (and this is not toward any one in particular, and I haven't read the rest of the responses past page 3...)

NO WAY! I was reading 1/3 of this and YOU weren't even reading it? I feel "played". (Momma, did I say it right? Did I say it right??)

Rozetta Marie wrote:
"Neglect not the gift that is in thee..."

I give up.. whats that mean?

JLC Images wrote:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=played

Pass revoked. lol

JLC Images wrote:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=played

Ba-zing!

Chick Habit wrote:

Is it me, but are the ones hollering "they want to fuck me" are the ones you wouldn't want to fuck?

Hahaha yep quite often. The ones I want don't need to be attention whores.

ORO IMAGES wrote:
read my response on page 12


makes the most sense

now please make sense out of the fact that this thread is now 14 pages.

Lumigraphics wrote:

Hahaha yep quite often. The ones I want don't need to be attention whores.

9 years ago I discovered that (after talking to a well known model) some girls model for self esteem issues, and in their heads they believe that if you're a model, people will see you as hot and want to sleep with you. Having being devoid of such a notion since sexual feelings came about because none of the boys they liked wanted them sexually, if any boy at all.

So in comes the notion that now they're looked at as a sex object, which they don't mind and secretly delight in, but the notion of having sex???? They're so conditioned to not having it, that the thought of it with strangers just creeps them out, thus the "I need an escort" mantra.

Loli Anna wrote:
.... SLE, I'm back (You can't just NOT watch a trainwreck) and I want to cry even harder now. Make it sstttooopppp!

You can't stop the LULZ once the Internet Hate Machine starts rolling.

Creative Works LLC wrote:
So, let me get this straight.  There are these young women with perfect bodies and beautiful faces, wearing the hottest outfits and there are guys who spend maybe an hour or more taking photos of them and more hours editing and enhancing the photos to accentuate their beauty and sexuality and then these guys actually want to have sex with these same young women?  Unbelievable.

lol..thx man..lol

Chick Habit wrote:

9 years ago I discovered that (after talking to a well known model) some girls model for self esteem issues, and in their heads they believe that if you're a model, people will see you as hot and want to sleep with you. Having being devoid of such a notion since sexual feelings came about because none of the boys they liked wanted them sexually, if any boy at all.

So in comes the notion that now they're looked at as a sex object, which they don't mind and secretly delight in, but the notion of having sex???? They're so conditioned to not having it, that the thought of it with strangers just creeps them out, thus the "I need an escort" mantra.

"I see" said the blind man.

ORO IMAGES wrote:
Exactly..you want it to stop and be treated  with respect more..then stop the slutty looks and start doing shoots with more cloths on more classy casual look..more lady like...they will alone come at you like that becuase of the look you give of and what your willing to do...if your willing to do everything as in sexi lingerie nudes ect.....then ofcource the photographer or whoever your working with will have a different feeling about you and think its ok to talk or touch you anyway ebcause you give of the impression that your ok with everything

Visions Of Excess  wrote:
love your avatar. Sure looks like your model is trying to pull off her panties. That sure is wholesome.

I kinda noticed that too . . . .

Creative Works LLC wrote:
So, let me get this straight.  There are these young women with perfect bodies and beautiful faces, wearing the hottest outfits

Are we in the same thread?

glenn my name today wrote:
2 words:

Terry Richardson

I think he only ask if he can be naked while shooting them. That's not the same as having sex with them. And I think T.R. shoot "different type" of models than the OP. . .

ABO Photography wrote:
Personally I think it unexceptable to hit on a model during or after a shoot. No matter the type of shoot. I've done various shoots wih models from clothed to nude not once have I ever tried to hit on a model. Plus why should because its a nude shoot imply the model is up for anything other than just modeling.

Photographers that do this give the rest of us a bad name, its just creepy. A proper photographer is it in it for the art.

I've done a bit over 100 shoots, about 40 of them nude.  Never come close to "hitting on" a model, and never had one hit on me.  A couple were a little flirty, but I just consider it their personality.

If I happened to be single, I would consider it ok to, gently, ask a model out if the shoot was over.  By a few days, not a few minutes.

However, I have no problem with offering my friendship to a model, including potentially meeting for a snack or chatting, one way or another.

4C 41 42 wrote:

Jade Noir wrote:

Chris Rifkin wrote:
*walks into thread to see if the train has wrecked.......looks around,noticing smoldering wreckage and a few flames spouting out of wreckage.......walks out*
carry on.

lol i hear you chris - i shoulda done the same but couldn't resist!

JLC Images wrote:

Are we in the same thread?

I'm being facetious.  I'm a silly man sometimes.  I do have friendships with some of my models though -- have had lunch, dinner, even breakfast (nice before an early shoot). 

No sex though or requests for same. Even if I had those kinds of feelings, I'd keep them to myself. To me, that seems the wise course -- even if I wasn't married.

I suppose some guys just play the odds.

Loli Anna wrote:

Rozetta Marie wrote:
Ok... just to clarify since no one reads anymore... (and this is not toward any one in particular, and I haven't read the rest of the responses past page 3...)

NO WAY! I was reading 1/3 of this and YOU weren't even reading it? I feel "played". (Momma, did I say it right? Did I say it right??)


I give up.. whats that mean?

WTF are you tallking about!

Banana Split wrote:
WTF are you tallking about!

Dear, what I meant was exactly what I said. I read quite a few pages of the thread and now feel silly because the OP herself did not read it.

Thank you for the nasty PM too. I will reply to that shortly.

Edit: Oh! It's YOU, OP, that sent me that. Haha. My mistake. *wags a finger* You almost had me fooled

Rozetta Marie wrote:

Exactly. I totally agree. But that's just a red flag that they have other motives anyway.

That is such BS.  Wanting to talk to model implies no such thing

Loli Anna wrote:
I give up.. whats that mean?

That's scripture. It's about not letting your talents go to waste. Specifically, spritual talents, but I doubt the OP meant it that way. Maybe so.

Iona Lynn wrote:
Then maybe you should not play them.

I must be ugly, I have only been propositioned for sex less than 10 times  in over 400 shoots.

Either that or I treat my job as a professional.

This is work, not play.

QFT