Model
Vaudeville
Posts: 888
Richmond, Virginia, US
Art of the nude wrote:
See, now, if I had been modeling for you in your apartment, I would have been really SKEEERED that you'd molest me. But since you were modeling, and it wasn't my place, everything was fine. The cats sure tried they hardest to molest you though. 
Photographer
Oscar Partida
Posts: 732
Palm Springs, California, US
Absolutely most inexperienced models will find it odd to go to a photographers home..keyword inexperienced..also there might be photographers who give a bad vibe and the models feel awkward
Model
hygvhgvkhy
Posts: 2092
Chicago, Illinois, US
I have no problems shooting at a home studios. As long as you let models know there will be a Private changing area& keep others out of the house the shoots should go great!(:
Photographer
JNance Interests
Posts: 5
Houston, Texas, US
main problem I've had is companion not staying put and stealing.
Model
Mischa Marie
Posts: 7892
Sacramento, California, US
Most of the studios I've shot in have been a home studio.
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Christopher Carter
Posts: 7777
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
Martin Philippo wrote:
The issue here was about safety and security for the models. I read that as: can they get raped?
Yes, raped!
Have you ever talked to a woman that has been raped? Have you ever heared about the traumas that gives?
And then some of you come up with the argument that a photographer has a greater risk. What risk? That some of your things get stolen. Bull!!
Some people are just so goddam selfish and ignorant! It scares how much you're white knighting now.
Have you ever considered that some togs may know EXACTLY how it feels?
Model
hygvhgvkhy
Posts: 2092
Chicago, Illinois, US
Samantha Church wrote:
I've mostly shot in home studios. I don't really see a difference.
Except that if something horrible like a sexual assault DID happen...I know where you live:)
If anything, it might be less safe to be taken to a secret lair specifically for shooting models....
We are, of course, talking worst case scenarios. But home studio or studio studio--they're all studios. I don't really differentiate. Perfectly true(: I've been reading, thinking&debating with myself haha but this is true. If you have someone drive you to a shoot, even of the WORST possible thing happened and a photographer drugged&raped you. Then the person that drove you knows where they live(:
oh...well and youd probably have it written down somewhere already.. Either way it probably is more safe.
Photographer
David Shinobi
Posts: 5746
Daytona Beach, Florida, US
I only allow who I trust in my 'home studio'..... and if you look, there aren't many.
But hey, I live in Florida and its too nice outside year round to be stuck inside anyways.
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Greg Kolack
Posts: 18392
Elmhurst, Illinois, US
Rays Fine Art wrote:
Looks like he meant it--already flew the coop! Wow. Sensitive, isn't he...
I'm sure he'll be missed.
Model
Bunny Bombshell
Posts: 11798
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Honestly, there is danger pretty much everywhere. You could just as easily get into an accident while in transit to a shoot. I live a good 9 stories up in a high rise and have to take an elevator just to leave my apartment. Doesn't keep me from going about my day. People will have irrational fears, don't let those who use that excuse get to you.
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Virtual Studio
Posts: 6725
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
It scares how much you're white knighting now.
Have you ever considered that some togs may know EXACTLY how it feels? In the USA today there may actually be more male / male rapes than male / female.
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Mr Banner
Posts: 85322
Hayward, California, US
I shoot out of my home.
I've been trying to book more new models, and I find that they are more likely to be wary of doing that. Especially if I don't let their escort rest his dick on my camera bag (ie, sit in on the shoot).
Experienced models, don't seem to care. I assume they check references.
Photographer
Brad Bravard
Posts: 38
Lakeland, Florida, US
Wow, I didn't realize this would be such a hot topic. Thanks, everyone, for the comments and suggestions, this has given me some new ideas and food for thought.
Model
Mischa Marie
Posts: 7892
Sacramento, California, US
Damon Banner wrote:
I shoot out of my home.
I've been trying to book more new models, and I find that they are more likely to be wary of doing that. Especially if I don't let their escort rest his dick on my camera bag (ie, sit in on the shoot).
Experienced models, don't seem to care. I assume they check references. Hell yeah. I was like "Whats up with that Damon creep?" 
Photographer
Christopher Carter
Posts: 7777
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
Virtual Studio wrote:
In the USA today there may actually be more male / male rapes than male / female. Well, considering how many of them are dressing like girls nowadays... 
Model
Roberta H
Posts: 162
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
As long as your studio appears professional and not your living room I don't see an issue with it at all. I prefer homes because they tend to be warmer (bad circulation in cold studios = ugly skin) and feel safer.
I think as a model no matter what situation you go into you look out for yourself, and it being a home or studio doesn't make it easier or harder to leave, if you want to look at it in the crudest manner you can get locked up in both of them.
Body Painter
Extreme Body Art
Posts: 4938
South Jordan, Utah, US
Roberta Hayes wrote:
As long as your studio appears professional and not your living room I don't see an issue with it at all. I prefer homes because they tend to be warmer (bad circulation in cold studios = ugly skin) and feel safer.
I think as a model no matter what situation you go into you look out for yourself, and it being a home or studio doesn't make it easier or harder to leave, if you want to look at it in the crudest manner you can get locked up in both of them. ..
I dunno about that...
You should always look at a photographer's portfolio and see what their photos look like.. if you like what you see and the end product is what is desired.. why does it matter WHERE it is shot?
Some people cannot afford hundreds of dollars of equipment, but still pull of excellent shots (I think Awesometographer has an excellent thread on "Shooting on a budget")... that being said.. I think it's funny models wanting to shoot with me but find out WHERE it is and they either flake or cancel but yet, see images that they want to be apart of... I shot those images in living rooms/garages/and other "non-professional" places.
Model
Roberta H
Posts: 162
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Extreme Body Art wrote:
..
I dunno about that...
You should always look at a photographer's portfolio and see what their photos look like.. if you like what you see and the end product is what is desired.. why does it matter WHERE it is shot?
Some people cannot afford hundreds of dollars of equipment, but still pull of excellent shots (I think Awesometographer has an excellent thread on "Shooting on a budget")... that being said.. I think it's funny models wanting to shoot with me but find out WHERE it is and they either flake or cancel but yet, see images that they want to be apart of... I shot those images in living rooms/garages/and other "non-professional" places. Sorry I thought that was assumed that you check out and like their work prior to asking where the location is to be met. I have worked in living rooms and the photos have turned out great this is true, but they have used lighting, or at least an external flash (seeing as most living rooms are dark) and knew how to use it. It completely depends on what you want to shoot as well I think.
but! all in all I think it's a good idea to do a home studio, easy access for you and it won't cost as much as renting so you can focus on other things.
Photographer
Photographe
Posts: 2351
Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Miss Rachel Elizabeth wrote:
I've worked with togs in their home studios before but it's with people I've already worked with. I had a few offers for togs who seem more like GWC's just trying to get me to their house lol. This.
I think you will find it hard, unless there's some kind of prior introduction or reference.
Photographer
Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Roberta Hayes wrote:
Sorry I thought that was assumed that you check out and like their work prior to asking where the location is to be met. I have worked in living rooms and the photos have turned out great this is true, but they have used lighting, or at least an external flash (seeing as most living rooms are dark) and knew how to use it. It completely depends on what you want to shoot as well I think.
but! all in all I think it's a good idea to do a home studio, easy access for you and it won't cost as much as renting so you can focus on other things. It was said, because you had said...
"As long as your studio appears professional and not your living room I don't see an issue with it at all."
Which, you wouldn't agree to shoot with a photographer without seeing what his work looked like before hand, right?
If he only had the camera in hand, and NO lighting what so ever... but still like his images.. why does it matter what his studio looks like?
That's all I'm saying.
It could even be a Kodak disposable camera and if the images are still stellar... then it should have no affect if you work with him or not.
Model
Roberta H
Posts: 162
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Wysiwyg Photography wrote:
It was said, because you had said...
"As long as your studio appears professional and not your living room I don't see an issue with it at all."
Which, you wouldn't agree to shoot with a photographer without seeing what his work looked like before hand, right?
If he only had the camera in hand, and NO lighting what so ever... but still like his images.. why does it matter what his studio looks like?
That's all I'm saying.
It could even be a Kodak disposable camera and if the images are still stellar... then it should have no affect if you work with him or not. I take it back then, I agree with you. But I would find it odd if a person referred to their living rooms as studios and find it slightly misleading, but with op I do not think this is the case.
Model
Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Virtual Studio wrote:
In the USA today there may actually be more male / male rapes than male / female. I like how you say "may" to provide an out in case anyone notices that you're just toally making shit up.
Photographer
PTPhotoUT
Posts: 1961
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Damianne wrote:
I like how you say "may" to provide an out in case anyone notices that you're just toally making shit up. Thanks a lot for bursting my bubble. I was hoping I might get lucky.
But actually, if you include the astronomical numbers that occur in our prisons on a daily basis, he probably may be right. Please note the use of probably and may, I wanted to make sure that I had a second way out if the first one was blocked.
Photographer
IrisSwope
Posts: 14857
Dallas, Texas, US
As a female, not a model, it seems like a house would be safer than the industrial areas a lot of studios are in.
If you scream in a house, a neighbor will probably hear you. If you scream in a warehouse, well, they probably all went home at 6pm.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Virtual Studio wrote:
In the USA today there may actually be more male / male rapes than male / female. Damianne wrote:
I like how you say "may" to provide an out in case anyone notices that you're just toally making shit up. From a news link earlier, there may actually be more pig rapes.
Model
Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
PTPhotoUT wrote:
Thanks a lot for bursting my bubble. I was hoping I might get lucky.
But actually, if you include the astronomical numbers that occur in our prisons on a daily basis, he probably may be right. Please note the use of probably and may, I wanted to make sure that I had a second way out if the first one was blocked. There aren't enough people in our prisons, that even if the stereotypes were true for the rate at which men are raped there (which they aren't, as horrible as the numbers are, when compared to the typical view of constant, nonstop, prison rape) to match up with the number of women that are raped every year.
Model
E M E R S O N
Posts: 1004
Tucson, Arizona, US
As long as you are upfront about it being in your home no. However I have been in a situation where I was not told that the studio was in a photographers home and I felt incredibly uncomfortable.
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Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Martin Philippo wrote:
Can somebody please delete my account here?
I would rather not be a member of a site where stuff that might get stolen is more important than anything else. Ah! Now I finally know what a "white knight " is, I was wondering what people were harping on about it so much for. thanks for the demonstration.
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Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Although I don't shoot in my home, it's in the same building, my biggest worry is burglary of my home rather than my equipment. Has nothing to do with escorts or models, I've been brought up to be suspecious of even the Milkman! That is due to a. childhood memory of our home being burgled.
Anyone setting up at home should make sure that they have suitable insurance that covers opening your home to the public and not rely on their home insurance.
Models should also do their due diligence REGARDLESS of location.
Selfish? Aren't we all when it comes to personal safety?
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Frozen Instant Imagery
Posts: 4153
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
I like the comment about not being your living room. I shot more than half my port in my living room. Admittedly, it's a fairly large living room, and I had a backdrop and studio lights... Didn't look much like a living room while I was shooting As for our erstwhile white knight, it would be a really stupid rapist who invited a potential victim to their home. Compare that to shooting in a hotel (possibly paid with a stolen credit card), or at the model's place. Even a rented studio would be a higher risk, wouldn't it? By comparison, the photographer is having someone they only know by pseudonym, and if there's an escort, someone they know nothing about, to their home. At very least, the model and escort get to see that photographer's equipment, and possibly other valuables. That's a distinct asymmetry.
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Michael Kerrek
Posts: 1427
Orlando, Florida, US
I've never really understood the "home studio is creepy" vibe. You're getting that person's HOME address. All you have to do is give someone the address of where you'll be, and you're as safe as safety gets. If the work is good, the work is good. Period.
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Abbitt Photography
Posts: 13564
Washington, Utah, US
I found the comments about the home studio space being a converted living room space quite interesting. Few homes were ever designed with studio space. Most home studio spaces will be in rooms originally designed for something else. What difference does it make what the space was originally designed for or how it is used when a shoot is not taking place. How does whether I leave studio equipment there permanently or replace it with furniture between shoots have any bearing on what the shoot offers or produces?
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Most of my shoots were at home studios. Never brought an escort either. I'm still alive.
Model
Dekilah
Posts: 5236
Dearborn, Michigan, US
I have shot in plenty of home studios. They have ranged from someone clearing out their living room and putting up a backdrop to one photographer who has a real studio attached to his house. In general, I have no problems shooting in someone's house or home studio.
There are a few occasions when I have had issues:
- the studio consisted of a bedroom in a very shoddy apartment complete with a very stained, uncovered mattress which I was supposed to pose on. That shoot did not happen.
- there are kids around. You may be okay with your kids seeing naked girls or girls in their underwear, etc, but it makes me very uncomfortable.
- You have a friend over who is just watching the shoot or supposedly helping. I had this happen a couple times when I was newer before I learned to speak up.
Aside from a handful of experience like those listed above I really love home studios. They tend to be better climate controlled, there is always a bathroom, sometimes there are cute pets, etc.
Model
Emi Rose
Posts: 1223
Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom
Working in home studios aren't a problem for me. I obviously check all references before hand, I'v had no problems
Photographer
Faulty Focus
Posts: 696
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
Augustine York wrote:
I think it's probably more likely for a photographer to have something stolen than for a model to be raped on set.
And I think it's more likely for a model to be raped by a stranger while coming out of the grocery store than while on a shoot... especially in a photographer's home. +1
I am no trying to diminish the seriousness of rape vs the annoyance of petty theft, but if you are shooting in a home, it is impractical to lock everything up. Statistically speaking, the odds of someone having light fingers will be greater that someone committing assault.
Having said that, shooting from home is great and as far as I know all of the models have been comfortable and have come back or want to come back for more shoots.
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Faulty Focus wrote:
+1
I am no trying to diminish the seriousness of rape vs the annoyance of petty theft, but if you are shooting in a home, it is impractical to lock everything up. I had 3 shoots in a week and started the week with a pin-up outfit in my wardrobe box and by the third shoot it was missing. I truly hope it is simply misplaced somewhere but logic is telling me otherwise.
Having said that, shooting from home is great and as far as I know all of the models have been comfortable and have come back or want to come back for more shoots. That's why you check references.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Abbitt Photography wrote:
I found the comments about the home studio space being a converted living room space quite interesting. Few homes were ever designed with studio space. Most home studio spaces will be in rooms originally designed for something else. What difference does it make what the space was originally designed for or how it is used when a shoot is not taking place. One model I worked with turned down another photographer because he shot "in his basement."
As it happens, he had a 3,000 SF professional studio in the walkout lower level of his house, with a separate two car garage, a 1000 SF shooting area, offices, two dressing rooms, etc . . . .
Photographer
ThatLook Visual Media
Posts: 6420
Nashville, Tennessee, US
What about the models that refuse to shoot at houses, not because of safety, but because they think shooting at a pro studio is more "big time"? Some beginner model's idea of a photoshoot is what they see on ANTM...a photographer and a whole crew of people running around. So if they're asked to shoot in a home studio, they feel it is the wrong direction for their "career".
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