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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Ok....First of not to be mean or off putting once you bring a hypothetical question into the realms of personal experience, it ceases to be a whimsical pondering , and becomes a fraction of reality.
As to your actual question about what you want or the managers actions, those are the X factor in the equation that is supposed to give you pause and contemplate your answer.
My original answer to this question a tentative yes, based on if it was 100% that I got away with it. However one person did answer no, not on a moral ground but on their lack of confidence on being able to pull it off.
FUN LITTLE FACT; this question is not 100% my own original creation. We get most of our hypothetical questions off of a prefab company EMD test.
A EMD test is a Ethical and Moral Delimas test, that many companies in countries like Japan, China, England, various European counties, and even some companies in the US require their employees to take depending on what kind of jog they are applying for.
This question is chance for advancement question, in most instances they want you to answer yes that you would do what ever is required to advance, because they are wanting ruthless people who will do what it takes to win.
That in its self I think is an ethical question, worth discussion.
The answer is up to you and shows what kind of person you are, if taken seriously, but we never do. My answer is "I have no moral dilemmas with it, I would totally do so, depending on factors involving personality and gain. I may not feel like fucking with it at all if I liked the people involved and didn't feel I was being affected, and I might just want to alert everyone if I didn't like what they were doing and wanted them to stop (blackmail means the thing you're using to blackmail will continue)"
I don't care who wrote your question, if it rejects complicated or "realistic" answers, it's not accurate. You can't ask a question like that and only look for specific answers.
I didn't actually ask you a question, I clarified my response.
I also brought in specific situations to explain how things can go wrong even if you have all the facts behind you, and can otherwise "get away with it".
Owner guy could just say "blackmail? Fuck you." and shoot you in the face... if I feel like he's that kind of guy, I probably won't touch the issue.
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Before anyone gets too heated/serious about the post......a quick google search on the OP shows his primary claim to fame under this username is trolling a local to his area forum arguing about a pizza restaurant and being called out by several other posters on his constant name dropping of supposed "modeling industry" connections while still living at home with his parents.
Make of that what you will, but the alphabet soup most likely spells T-R-O-L-L
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Filthy McNipples wrote:
I don't care who wrote your question, if it rejects complicated or "realistic" answers, it's not accurate. You can't ask a question like that and only look for specific answers. I agree a loaded question is not fair, which is why when we{others and mysef} do this we are open to all answers.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Paige Morgan wrote:
Before anyone gets too heated/serious about the post......a quick google search on the OP shows his primary claim to fame under this username is trolling a local to his area forum arguing about a pizza restaurant and being called out by several other posters on his constant name dropping of supposed "modeling industry" connections while still living at home with his parents.
Make of that what you will, but the alphabet soup most likely spells T-R-O-L-L I am reminded of an old saying about how it take one to know one....
Anywho you really should be careful about the information you find on the internet. Especially when "several other posters" are actually one person who is currently serving time in prison for creating and possession of child porn.
Be careful.
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
I am reminded of an old saying about how it take one to know one....
Anywho you really should be careful about the information you find on the internet. Especially when "several other posters" are actually one person who is currently serving time in prison for creating and possession of child porn.
Be careful. I don't believe you.
This is information on the internet.
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
I am reminded of an old saying about how it take one to know one....
Anywho you really should be careful about the information you find on the internet. Especially when "several other posters" are actually one person who is currently serving time in prison for creating and possession of child porn.
Be careful. Always. Which is why I'm warning the people who actually participate in these forums not to fall for the bait cart that is this post. 
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Well this thread was a light hearted sociological experiment designed to show what the basic ingrained nature of the common poster is.
And apparently it was a success, since it showed that a majority of the posters are or try to be stand up people while there are several trolls who are just out to start drama.
Otherwise you would have just kept moving and not paid attention to this thread...
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P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Paige Morgan wrote:
Before anyone gets too heated/serious about the post......a quick google search on the OP shows his primary claim to fame under this username is trolling a local to his area forum arguing about a pizza restaurant and being called out by several other posters on his constant name dropping of supposed "modeling industry" connections while still living at home with his parents.
Make of that what you will, but the alphabet soup most likely spells T-R-O-L-L I knew it...
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ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
my rule for life is to start out being nice. only if i get screwed over do i start thinking kill bill. lol. but i think if you start doing harm to other people that can start to eat at your soul. but if someone killed my family then i'd probably go all steven seagall on them.
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Eralar
Posts: 1781
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Not a model, but have this to add. And I'm only talking hypothetically, because blackmail is in itself criminal, and I could never use it or advise to use it on anyone.
But now, to the point. Yourselves, as professional (photographers, models, MUAs...), how would you react if a complete newb in your specialty was to tell you how to do your stuff?
Not, try to put yourself in the boots of a professional crook or bandit. A complete newb comes and tries to blackmail you... what's going to happen next?
In fact, it's hard to say. Some will lay low, do the stuff and not put in peril everything he has going. Will just make sure to record enough proofs on yourself so if you ever think about speaking...
But some will react in very different ways... maybe they are really more linked to a very dangerous criminal organisation... maybe they are just dangerous dumb asses or dangerously ill people. No need to say you can never know how this might escalate.
Just to say... if you don't fear the law, at least fear the unlawful.
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5620
London, England, United Kingdom
Ronin_LLC wrote:
"Kind of tame COMPARED TO Drugs and Prostitution" Context is important. Personally I would rather be the victim of blackmail rather than drugs and prostitution.
(Of course you could argue Modeling is a form of Prostituting yourself, but I have had that conversation and its no fun.) Who exactly is the victim of drugs and prostitution? I need this information before i can make a decision on which i'd prefer.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
JadeDRed wrote:
Who exactly is the victim of drugs and prostitution? I need this information before i can make a decision on which i'd prefer. Drug addicts and their families, I would say are the victims. The girls who are forced into prostitution or run buy rough pimps would be the victims I guess.
Personally I would rather be blackmailed than a drug addict or a prostitute, cause I can deal with a blackmailer a lot easier.
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Venessa Baez
Posts: 616
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US
Why, what info do you have  LOL
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5620
London, England, United Kingdom
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Drug addicts and their families, I would say are the victims. The girls who are forced into prostitution or run buy rough pimps would be the victims I guess.
Personally I would rather be blackmailed than a drug addict or a prostitute, cause I can deal with a blackmailer a lot easier. Forcing someone into prostitution (amongst other things) is human trafficking, thats a pretty significant difference since one is legal and one is not (here). That's like calling rape victims 'victims of sex'. The drugs thing is like calling fat people (and their families) the victims of McDonalds.
Nah there is too much ambiguity here for me to make a decision. How bad is the blackmail? How much for the prostitution? Which drug?
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
dave phoenix wrote:
5'10 male model in Kentucky is shocked celebrities do drugs! LOL
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Retiredmodel
Posts: 7884
Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom
Ronin_LLC wrote:
This is a social reaction question done purely in harmless curiosity to gauge the average users ideology.
Blackmail, honestly in the Modeling industry is kind tame when you place it beside all the drugs and prostitution. I haven't read further than this so forgive me if its already been adressed but I think in addition to all the negative vibes models get regularly on MM we are now:
1. Drug addicts
2. Hookers
3. May not be averse to a bit of blackmail
In answer to the op I imagine the majority of us are party to information that would make the dailies regularly with a nice fat wad of cash from the red tops. The vast majority of us would not even consider it for a moment.
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
K I C K H A M wrote:
1. I wouldn't want any part in the illegal activity because it's wrong.
2. I wouldn't want any part in the illegal activity because I wouldn't want to deal with the repercussions.
3. If I wanted any part in criminal activity, I wouldn't be a big enough moron to go airing it on a PUBLIC forum. But, you're like smart and all.
Which isn't nearly as much fun and drama causing as the opposite.
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5620
London, England, United Kingdom
Eliza C wrote:
I haven't read further than this so forgive me if its already been adressed but I think in addition to all the negative vibes models get regularly on MM we are now:
1. Drug addicts
2. Hookers
3. May not be averse to a bit of blackmail You make it sound like we're not.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
JadeDRed wrote:
Forcing someone into prostitution (amongst other things) is human trafficking, thats a pretty significant difference since one is legal and one is not (here). That is not the definition of Human trafficking. Human Trafficking is the kiddnapping and or transportation and sale of people against their will for the purpose of forced labor.
Forced or Coursed Prostitution is different. Many times they do it because they are down on their luck and need money or in a lot of urban environments they get addicted to drugs and have to do it to pay for their habits.
Another victim that didn't occur to me, the guys and or their wives/girlfriends who end up with unwanted STDS or AIDS.
JadeDRed wrote:
That's like calling rape victims 'victims of sex'. The drugs thing is like calling fat people (and their families) the victims of McDonalds. Not everyone willingly chooses to do or get addicted to drugs.
One of the biggest drug issues in the US right now is people getting addicted to prescription painkillers after an injury.
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5620
London, England, United Kingdom
Ronin_LLC wrote:
That is not the definition of Human trafficking. Human Trafficking is the kiddnapping and or transportation and sale of people against their will for the purpose of forced labor. Actually :
"‘The recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power, or a position of vulnerability, or the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal or organs’."
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Forced or Coursed Prostitution is different. Many times they do it because they are down on their luck and need money or in a lot of urban environments they get addicted to drugs and have to do it to pay for their habits. I worked in a supermarket because i was down on my luck and needed money, was that forced or coerced (i assume thats what you meant).
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Another victim that didn't occur to me, the guys and or their wives/girlfriends who end up with unwanted STDS or AIDS. Hmmm, last time i checked no one forced guys to have unprotected sex with strange women. I've known people to have HIV scares in similar situations, i never considered any of them victims, victims of what? I would say the wives/girlfriends are victims of abusive husbands, which is not what we are talking about here.
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Not everyone willingly chooses to do or get addicted to drugs.
One of the biggest drug issues in the US right now is people getting addicted to prescription painkillers after an injury. I would know nothing about that but it seems a fairly specific issue.
Like i said i need specifics to some to a conclusion, what kind of blackmail, which drugs, what kind of prostitution.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
JadeDRed wrote:
Actually :
"‘The recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power, or a position of vulnerability, or the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal or organs’." Sorry I didn't use google, but I still gave the same definition.
JadeDRed wrote:
I worked in a supermarket because i was down on my luck and needed money, was that forced or coerced (i assume thats what you meant). Not everyone has or can get that option, but if you can that is good for you.
JadeDRed wrote:
Hmmm, last time i checked no one forced guys to have unprotected sex with strange women. I've known people to have HIV scares in similar situations, i never considered any of them victims, victims of what? I would say the wives/girlfriends are victims of abusive husbands, which is not what we are talking about here. True but say your boyfriend or girlfriend slept with a hooker caught an STD and then gave it to you, Would you not be a victim?
JadeDRed wrote:
I would know nothing about that but it seems a fairly specific issue. I am just pointing out that there are variables to every course. You have to take them all into account.
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JadeDRed
Posts: 5620
London, England, United Kingdom
Ronin_LLC wrote:
JadeDRed wrote:
Actually :
"‘The recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power, or a position of vulnerability, or the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal or organs’." Sorry I didn't use google, but I still gave the same definition. No you didn't, yours was more specific and you said forced or coerced prostitution wasn't human trafficking. Which by that definition it is.
Ronin_LLC wrote:
JadeDRed wrote:
I worked in a supermarket because i was down on my luck and needed money, was that forced or coerced (i assume thats what you meant). Not everyone has or can get that option, but if you can that is good for you. That doesn't answer my question.
Ronin_LLC wrote:
JadeDRed wrote:
Hmmm, last time i checked no one forced guys to have unprotected sex with strange women. I've known people to have HIV scares in similar situations, i never considered any of them victims, victims of what? I would say the wives/girlfriends are victims of abusive husbands, which is not what we are talking about here. True but say your boyfriend or girlfriend slept with a hooker caught an STD and then gave it to you, Would you not be a victim? I covered this in the quote, are you even reading any of them before you post them?
Ronin_LLC wrote:
I am just pointing out that there are variables to every course. You have to take them all into account. Actually i was pointing that out. You said you'd much rather be a 'victim' of blackmail than drugs or prostitution, i asked for more info since you seem quite certain of that without other details.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
JadeDRed wrote:
No you didn't, yours was more specific and you said forced or coerced prostitution wasn't human trafficking. Which by that definition it is. Not sure about England but in the US without the kiddnaping/transportation aspect the FBI will not file charges of Human Trafficking.
JadeDRed wrote:
Actually i was pointing that out. You said you'd much rather be a 'victim' of blackmail than drugs or prostitution, i asked for more info since you seem quite certain of that without other details. I used to work in a tactical unit in Philly about 4 years ago, I have seen enough drugs, prostitution, and gang violence to know more than I want about it.
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David L
Posts: 104
Macon, Georgia, US
K I C K H A M wrote:
Awwwwwwww! I guess that's good.
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Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
JadeDRed wrote:
No you didn't, yours was more specific and you said forced or coerced prostitution wasn't human trafficking. Which by that definition it is. Not sure about England but in the US without the kiddnaping/transportation aspect the FBI will not file charges of Human Trafficking.
I used to work in a tactical unit in Philly about 4 years ago, I have seen enough drugs, prostitution, and gang violence to know more than I want about it.
Did you work in a tactical unit when you were dating that reporter who wrote that report you dont have? Or is this before you decided to be a top model in Kentucky with an agent you may or may not like with a hidden portfolio you dont feel like dragging out?
This must be one of the most ridiculous threads in the history of MM....
And you do seem to have way to much info on human trafficking........
Carry on with the nonsense.......
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Jessie Shannon wrote:
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Did you work in a tactical unit when you were dating that reporter who wrote that report you dont have? Or is this before you decided to be a top model in Kentucky with an agent you may or may not like with a hidden portfolio you dont feel like dragging out?
This must be one of the most ridiculous threads in the history of MM....
And you do seem to have way to much info on human trafficking........
Carry on with the nonsense....... Jessie:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st16946910
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Left-handed Photography
Posts: 181
Richmond, Virginia, US
Oh golly, everything I read by this guy says, "Dickhead."
There are no ethics in blackmail and to pose your scenario as an "ethical question" is dickhead.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Jessie Shannon wrote:
Did you work in a tactical unit when you were dating that reporter who wrote that report you dont have? Or is this before you decided to be a top model in Kentucky with an agent you may or may not like with a hidden portfolio you dont feel like dragging out?
This must be one of the most ridiculous threads in the history of MM....
And you do seem to have way to much info on human trafficking........
Carry on with the nonsense....... Wait do you actually think anyone cares about your two cents? If so you should ask for change back.
Yes I was part of a unit a few years back I have photos etc, but I am sure they are not up to you standard.
Seriously How do you trolls expect anyone to believe you get work when all of your time is spent trolling people who don't care?
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Photographe
Posts: 2351
Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Jade wrote:
Who exactly is the victim of drugs and prostitution? The neighbours...
I find when someone says "you should", invariably you shouldn't.
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Wait do you actually think anyone cares about your two cents? If so you should ask for change back.
Yes I was part of a unit a few years back I have photos etc, but I am sure they are not up to you standard.
Seriously How do you trolls expect anyone to believe you get work when all of your time is spent trolling people who don't care? Far better trolls, fakes and flakes have come here before......this isn't exactly a place where idle bragging and mysterious self important claims will be tolerated long.
You are not listed on any legitimate agency within about 100 miles of the tiny market you live in. You claim tear sheets and international jobs, but nothing in your port or on google image search associated with any name or alias I can find for you is of the quality for fashion or commercial print work. IMDB also has no listing for your claimed television/film credits.
A quick google search also reveals that you've claimed your supposed "tactical unit" has been located in Allentown and Philadelphia, depending on which site you've mentioned it on...Allentown PA has no specialized tactical units, and generally borrows from larger cities squads for specialized large scale issues.
You claim to have been shot or stabbed but there are no visible scars on any of the image hits.
Everyone was new and aspiring once, and it isn't shameful to admit. People will generally try to be very helpful on here if you level with them.
However, coming here claiming to be a SWAT team supermodel when you have a Facebook/GI Joe level set of evidence to those claims isn't going to win you any friends, on a site that has a healthy population of both working agency fashion affiliated pros and well experienced and credited freelancers who see right through the smoke.
Impress us with professionalism and quality images, not far flung tales of intrigue and bad film plots.
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SuperWink
Posts: 188
Decatur, Georgia, US
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Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Wait do you actually think anyone cares about your two cents? If so you should ask for change back.
Yes I was part of a unit a few years back I have photos etc, but I am sure they are not up to you standard.
Seriously How do you trolls expect anyone to believe you get work when all of your time is spent trolling people who don't care? Bahahahahaha good one. so quick on your feet.....cant wait to see what you will make up next.
And I think Paige put it quite nicely.
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Photographe
Posts: 2351
Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Well of course Ronin, I'd much rather spend 8 hours in a studio with you than Paige...
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Paige Morgan wrote:
Far better trolls, fakes and flakes have come here before......this isn't exactly a place where idle bragging and mysterious self important claims will be tolerated long. Like your self you mean?
Paige Morgan wrote:
You are not listed on any legitimate agency within about 100 miles of the tiny market you live in. You claim tear sheets and international jobs, but nothing in your port or on google image search associated with any name or alias I can find for you is of the quality for fashion or commercial print work. IMDB also has no listing for your claimed television/film credits. LOL says a little kid with no investigation skills and a 10 minute Google search.
BTW IMDB doesn't have the credits for every indie move. Especially if some of them are still in editing. You should do your research, that way you would know that Columbus/cleveland OH has a rather large Indie movie scene.
Paige Morgan wrote:
A quick google search also reveals that you've claimed your supposed "tactical unit" has been located in Allentown and Philadelphia, depending on which site you've mentioned it on...Allentown PA has no specialized tactical units, and generally borrows from larger cities squads for specialized large scale issues. You need to tone down your compulsive lying, it doesn't help. Also getting your facts straight makes you story more believe able.
If you can find one single thing were I claim it was located in Allentown PA. I will a pay you any amount. We worked all over PA.
Paige Morgan wrote:
You claim to have been shot or stabbed but there are no visible scars on any of the image hits. I have a scar from a pen knife, on my right arm just below my elbow. Also its as I have stated I was wearing a vest.
Let me explain how a bulletproof vest works, it prevents small caliber bullets from penetrating.
Paige Morgan wrote:
Everyone was new and aspiring once, and it isn't shameful to admit. People will generally try to be very helpful on here if you level with them. I do believe that in this thread and one other thread I mentioned that I have only been doing this for about 2 years. Which I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that along with about 9 jobs means I am new...
I could be wrong.
Paige Morgan wrote:
However, coming here claiming to be a SWAT team supermodel when you have a Facebook/GI Joe level set of evidence to those claims isn't going to win you any friends, on a site that has a healthy population of both working agency fashion affiliated pros and well experienced and credited freelancers who see right through the smoke. I don't believe I ever claimed to be a supermodel....you are exaggerating again. Uncontrollable exaggeration and compulsive lying are signs of an underlying mental disorder, you should see a professional.
All the stuff I posted in my MM profile is the stuff, personally I like.
Oh and there is a difference between a tactical unit and a SWAT Team. A SWAT Team is a police branch, we were a privately owned origination.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Rollo David Snook wrote:
Well of course Ronin, I'd much rather spend 8 hours in a studio with you than Paige... Yeah that just makes you sound creepy and gay. BTW my screen door doesn't swing that way.
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Jessie Shannon
Posts: 2004
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Yeah that just makes you sound creepy and gay. BTW my screen door doesn't swing that way. The only one coming off as creepy around here is you....
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Paige Morgan
Posts: 4060
New York, New York, US
Ronin_LLC wrote:
Paige Morgan wrote:
Far better trolls, fakes and flakes have come here before......this isn't exactly a place where idle bragging and mysterious self important claims will be tolerated long. Like your self you mean?
Paige Morgan wrote:
You are not listed on any legitimate agency within about 100 miles of the tiny market you live in. You claim tear sheets and international jobs, but nothing in your port or on google image search associated with any name or alias I can find for you is of the quality for fashion or commercial print work. IMDB also has no listing for your claimed television/film credits. LOL says a little kid with no investigation skills and a 10 minute Google search.
BTW IMDB doesn't have the credits for every indie move. Especially if some of them are still in editing. You should do your research, that way you would know that Columbus/cleveland OH has a rather large Indie movie scene.
Paige Morgan wrote:
A quick google search also reveals that you've claimed your supposed "tactical unit" has been located in Allentown and Philadelphia, depending on which site you've mentioned it on...Allentown PA has no specialized tactical units, and generally borrows from larger cities squads for specialized large scale issues. You need to tone down your compulsive lying, it doesn't help. Also getting your facts straight makes you story more believe able.
If you can find one single thing were I claim it was located in Allentown PA. I will a pay you any amount. We worked all over PA.
I have a scar from a pen knife, on my right arm just below my elbow. Also its as I have stated I was wearing a vest.
Let me explain how a bulletproof vest works, it prevents small caliber bullets from penetrating.
I do believe that in this thread and one other thread I mentioned that I have only been doing this for about 2 years. Which I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that along with about 9 jobs means I am new...
I could be wrong.
I don't believe I ever claimed to be a supermodel....you are exaggerating again. Uncontrollable exaggeration and compulsive lying are signs of an underlying mental disorder, you should see a professional.
All the stuff I posted in my MM profile is the stuff, personally I like.
Oh and there is a difference between a tactical unit and a SWAT Team. A SWAT Team is a police branch, we were a privately owned origination. I've shot with a lot of people from this site and others, and can verify every one of my claimed credits. You still haven't produced a single shred of evidence that you've attended or done anything other than a modeling "school" program, who most likely over charged you for the photos you are calling your "comp card". Those are scams, and if they're also claiming to be your agency, that's the reason you are having trouble getting work.
In that business model, the model and the model's families are the client, and they make you cough up cash for comp cards and portfolios that are completely useless for a serious model. 9 jobs in two years? That isn't new, that's failing to grasp how the business actually works, and not putting yourself in positions to move ahead.
Your supposed "sake ad" is credited to a (misspelled) Tenga Tai........one of the place locations in the Doom video game series.
You got stabbed with a pen knife.....but only have a small scar......because you were wearing a bulletproof vest.
Because the first thing a trained technician from a super stealth "private organization" would do is bring a bulletproof vest to a knife fight
You're not even trying at this point. (Though you are deleting your forum posts on other sites to cover your snail trail, which is amusing).
Attention is food for compulsive tellers of tale tales.....I personally prefer to let you starve...it might help you book an actual modeling job.
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Ronin_LLC
Posts: 2012
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Jessie Shannon wrote:
The only one coming off as creepy around here is you.... 1.248 posts. why am I not surprised that when I look at them they are all trolling posts stirring up crap?
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