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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it.
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
mmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know offer money!
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DarkSlide
Posts: 2353
Alexandria, Virginia, US
Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.
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orias
Posts: 5187
Tampa, Florida, US
screen models with legit references, and bypass new gals offer pay or more pay if you already are give them references and contact info so they feel comfortable working with you i will be in your area in early november, but if you'd like a reliable model asap contact "miss alison" on my top friends list
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
DarkSlide wrote: Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event. I was thinking the same thing.. but wasn't sure if it would have came off as an unsolicited crit. but thanks for mentioned it because I wanted to
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PYPI COMMERCIAL
Posts: 1353
San Francisco, California, US
Money talks, bullshit walks. Beyond that, current unwritten rules prevent me from giving you an informed response to your question outside of the critique forum. If you would like my input, please start a new thread asking for a critique. Then come back here and link to that thread so I and others can respond without risk of penalty.
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Loki Studio
Posts: 3523
Royal Oak, Michigan, US
WP- You are having problems because most models would not want the type and quality of your portfolio pictures in their own portfolio. As is common in the fetish/porn industry-you will have to pay your models appropriately. -Scott Worthems Photographs wrote: Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it.
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Swank Photography
Posts: 19020
Key West, Florida, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it. Work on creating a better portfolio.
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HOTTIE SHOTS
Posts: 6018
Memphis, Tennessee, US
You want to shoot fetish, you need to pay for it.
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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess.
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Aussiekylie
Posts: 743
Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess. offer more cash
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orias
Posts: 5187
Tampa, Florida, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess. did you message the girl i just referred in my last post?
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
a happy ending a fish sandwich a Walmart coupon free oil change?
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Sal W Hanna
Posts: 6686
Huntington Beach, California, US
Maybe it's because your portfolio looks like you are shooting porn???
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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
I'm sure I'll find a model who wants to be different & have the "boobs" to have fun!
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36332
San Francisco, California, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: I'm sure I'll find a model who wants to be different & have the "boobs" to have fun! So I guess you don't have a problem after all. Why does this thread exist then?
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Sierra Sunshine
Posts: 11876
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Maybe it's because you keep calling them "boobs"? If I was old enough, I don't think I would shoot with someone who told me I had nice "boobs", or used boobs in the message asking me to shoot with them fetish or not, it still doesn't scream photographer. That's right up there in my books with saying "You have nice juggz. Shoot?" PASS. Alice
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Paul-ice
Posts: 120
Burgdorf, Bern, Switzerland
Take a more professional approach.
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Southern Digitals
Posts: 268
Cumming, Georgia, US
I am confused, is this a joke?
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Valley Art
Posts: 371
Lower Hutt, Wellington, New Zealand
Southern Digitals wrote: I am confused, is this a joke? The joke is on the models if they work for anything less than $500/half day.
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Leroy Dickson
Posts: 8239
Flint, Michigan, US
Southern Digitals wrote: I am confused, is this a joke? Of the pie in the face variety, apparently
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BYS
Posts: 11614
Paris, Île-de-France, France
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Nekosi
Posts: 92
Brooklyn, Indiana, US
DarkSlide wrote: Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event. yeah, what he said. You're looking for models to continue with the project in your port?
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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.
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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.
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Monad Studios
Posts: 10131
Santa Rosa, California, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it. 1. Communicate well 2. Don't post insulting generalizations about female models in the forums If you've tried these things and they don't work, perhaps you have other issues.
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BritWoollardPhotography
Posts: 771
Chicago, Illinois, US
DarkSlide wrote: Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event. Mhm.
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BYS
Posts: 11614
Paris, Île-de-France, France
Worthems Photographs wrote: Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor. keep on that way , you should attract more of them tb
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D E L I C I A E
Posts: 394
Gallatin, Tennessee, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor. I'm sure a few models who have passed this thread have thought what I'm about to say. Saying that you are sure you're going to find a model has the 'boobs' to be brave and have fun is really not going to attract anyone. I have 'boobs', and I like them. I am not 'boobless' in the wits department either, and I like having fun. But your port and your style is something most models wouldn't want to be known for. 'slapsticksexy.com' sounds almost pornish, and while most models have the 'boobs' to be brave, they also don't want to be known for that sort of work. There is a difference between being brave and tasteful and being...well, I don't think I can say what I want to say. Also, generalizing all female models the way you did is going to turn many girls away. tl;dr offer pay, and lots of it.
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picturephoto
Posts: 8687
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Worthems Photographs wrote: Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it. Offer more of these: $
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess. You aren't looking very hard.
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Worthems Photographs
Posts: 18
Mount Clemens, Michigan, US
Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either. I do look very hard in finding female models. The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.
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devpics
Posts: 839
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
>>How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested.
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D E L I C I A E
Posts: 394
Gallatin, Tennessee, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either. I do look very hard in finding female models. The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999. Keep going, you're attracting all of 'em. I wouldn't consider myself 'vain'. I just really don't favor rubbing pie all over my butt, either. Or my face. Or any other part of my body. It isn't my cup of tea, and it isn't going to be a lot of other models favorite pastime either. You're doing something that isn't popular, so it is going to take you longer to find willing participants. Learn to roll with it, instead of narrowing your chances by insulting every single female on the site.
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Kathrynn Rose
Posts: 504
Ashland, Ohio, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either. I do look very hard in finding female models. The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999. What is reasonable pay? I hope you don't expect this thread to help you get any models when you're insulting all of us constantly.
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LeDeux Art
Posts: 50123
San Ramon, California, US
Worthems Photographs wrote: Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied? I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together. I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday. I'm open for your feedback. I need it. what are you offering in trade for their time, re evaluate what you are indeed offering and what is being sought after are you shooting for yourself or for the models bnook?
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picturephoto
Posts: 8687
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Worthems Photographs wrote: Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either. I do look very hard in finding female models. The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999. Okay, so you may be looking hard, but you are looking wrong. Start by not insulting models in this thread. Part of your job as a photographer is to nurture a fun and inviting shooting project to attract models - I imagine this is especially the case for fetish work. If you're been shooting since 1999, you should probably have figured this out by now. You're not exactly making any friends here.
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Bill Clearlake Photos
Posts: 2214
San Jose, California, US
You've been doing this since 1999 and suddenly there's a shortage of women who want to get naked and play with sticky gooey food? I doubt that. There are plenty of women out there into all kinds of fetishes -- and your stuff seems harmless and fun compared to many other fetishes out there. Maybe something about your approach is turning women off from working with you.
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