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Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

Oct 19 08 01:40 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

mmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know offer money!

Oct 19 08 01:43 am Link

Photographer

DarkSlide

Posts: 2353

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.

Oct 19 08 01:45 am Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

screen models with legit references, and bypass new gals

offer pay or more pay if you already are

give them references and contact info so they feel comfortable working with you

i will be in your area in early november,  but if you'd like a reliable model asap
contact "miss alison" on my top friends list smile

Oct 19 08 01:50 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

DarkSlide wrote:
Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.

I was thinking the same thing.. but  wasn't sure if it would have came off as an unsolicited crit. but thanks for mentioned it because I wanted to smile

Oct 19 08 01:51 am Link

Photographer

PYPI COMMERCIAL

Posts: 1353

San Francisco, California, US

Money talks, bullshit walks. Beyond that, current unwritten rules prevent me from giving you an informed response to your question outside of the critique forum. If you would like my input, please start a new thread asking for a critique. Then come back here and link to that thread so I and others can respond without risk of penalty.

Oct 19 08 01:53 am Link

Photographer

Loki Studio

Posts: 3523

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

WP-

You are having problems because most models would not want the type and quality of your portfolio pictures in their own portfolio.  As is common in the fetish/porn industry-you will have to pay your models appropriately.

-Scott



Worthems Photographs wrote:
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

Oct 19 08 01:55 am Link

Photographer

Swank Photography

Posts: 19020

Key West, Florida, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

Work on creating a better portfolio.

Oct 19 08 01:56 am Link

Photographer

HOTTIE SHOTS

Posts: 6018

Memphis, Tennessee, US

You want to shoot fetish, you need to pay for it.

Oct 19 08 01:58 am Link

Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess.

Oct 19 08 02:16 am Link

Model

Aussiekylie

Posts: 743

Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess.

offer more cash

Oct 19 08 02:20 am Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess.

did you message the girl i just referred in my last post?

Oct 19 08 02:22 am Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

a happy ending
a fish sandwich
a Walmart coupon
free oil change?

Oct 19 08 02:36 am Link

Photographer

Sal W Hanna

Posts: 6686

Huntington Beach, California, US

Maybe it's because your portfolio looks like you are shooting porn???

Oct 19 08 02:37 am Link

Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

I'm sure I'll find a model who wants to be different & have the "boobs" to have fun!

Oct 19 08 03:38 am Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
I'm sure I'll find a model who wants to be different & have the "boobs" to have fun!

So I guess you don't have a problem after all. Why does this thread exist then?

Oct 19 08 03:39 am Link

Model

Sierra Sunshine

Posts: 11876

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Maybe it's because you keep calling them "boobs"?
If I was old enough, I don't think I would shoot with someone who told me I had nice "boobs", or used boobs in the message asking me to shoot with them fetish or not, it still doesn't scream photographer. That's right up there in my books with saying "You have nice juggz. Shoot?" PASS.
Alice

Oct 19 08 03:42 am Link

Photographer

Paul-ice

Posts: 120

Burgdorf, Bern, Switzerland

Take a more professional approach.

Oct 19 08 03:49 am Link

Photographer

Southern Digitals

Posts: 268

Cumming, Georgia, US

I am confused, is this a joke?

Oct 19 08 04:12 am Link

Photographer

Valley Art

Posts: 371

Lower Hutt, Wellington, New Zealand

Southern Digitals wrote:
I am confused, is this a joke?

The joke is on the models if they work for anything less than $500/half day.

Oct 19 08 04:34 pm Link

Model

Less Than Two

Posts: 23401

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

really good Shampoo.

Oct 19 08 04:37 pm Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Southern Digitals wrote:
I am confused, is this a joke?

Of the pie in the face variety, apparently smile

Oct 19 08 04:42 pm Link

Photographer

BYS

Posts: 11614

Paris, Île-de-France, France

hmmm get some taste ?
tb

Oct 19 08 04:45 pm Link

Model

Nekosi

Posts: 92

Brooklyn, Indiana, US

DarkSlide wrote:
Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.

yeah, what he said.

You're looking for models to continue with the project in your port?

Oct 19 08 04:49 pm Link

Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.

Oct 20 08 12:44 am Link

Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.

Oct 20 08 12:45 am Link

Body Painter

Monad Studios

Posts: 10131

Santa Rosa, California, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

1. Communicate well
2. Don't post insulting generalizations about female models in the forums

If you've tried these things and they don't work, perhaps you have other issues.

Oct 20 08 12:55 am Link

Photographer

BritWoollardPhotography

Posts: 771

Chicago, Illinois, US

DarkSlide wrote:
Sorry, I don't know any 'dead serious' models who enjoy having a pie smashed in their face -- or who would like to have photos of such an event.

Mhm.

Oct 20 08 12:57 am Link

Photographer

BYS

Posts: 11614

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.

keep on that way , you should attract more of them
tb

Oct 20 08 12:57 am Link

Photographer

slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

https://www.modelmayhem.com/casting.php?ccid=267869

How much cash are you offering for your wild-zany-madcap-slapstick-naked-pie-squishing-fetish video?

Oct 20 08 01:01 am Link

Model

D E L I C I A E

Posts: 394

Gallatin, Tennessee, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Yeah sometimes I think that a majority of female models are the joke, you be polite & professional as possible & some don't return the favor.

I'm sure a few models who have passed this thread have thought what I'm about to say.
Saying that you are sure you're going to find a model has the 'boobs' to be brave and have fun is really not going to attract anyone. I have 'boobs', and I like them. I am not 'boobless' in the wits department either, and I like having fun.

But your port and your style is something most models wouldn't want to be known for. 'slapsticksexy.com' sounds almost pornish, and while most models have the 'boobs' to be brave, they also don't want to be known for that sort of work.

There is a difference between being brave and tasteful and being...well, I don't think I can say what I want to say.

Also, generalizing all female models the way you did is going to turn many girls away.

tl;dr offer pay, and lots of it.

Oct 20 08 01:02 am Link

Photographer

picturephoto

Posts: 8687

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

Offer more of these:  $

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer cash, but there aren't any BBW out there "Brave Beautiful Women" here I guess, no boobs I guess.

You aren't looking very hard.

Oct 20 08 01:12 am Link

Photographer

Worthems Photographs

Posts: 18

Mount Clemens, Michigan, US

Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either.  I do look very hard in finding female models.  The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.

Oct 20 08 01:18 am Link

Photographer

devpics

Posts: 839

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

>>How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested.

Oct 20 08 01:19 am Link

Model

D E L I C I A E

Posts: 394

Gallatin, Tennessee, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either.  I do look very hard in finding female models.  The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.

Keep going, you're attracting all of 'em.

I wouldn't consider myself 'vain'. I just really don't favor rubbing pie all over my butt, either. Or my face. Or any other part of my body. It isn't my cup of tea, and it isn't going to be a lot of other models favorite pastime either.

You're doing something that isn't popular, so it is going to take you longer to find willing participants. Learn to roll with it, instead of narrowing your chances by insulting every single female on the site.

Oct 20 08 01:22 am Link

Photographer

Drus shock Photography

Posts: 33

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Is this a joke, like seriously?

Oct 20 08 01:22 am Link

Model

Kathrynn Rose

Posts: 504

Ashland, Ohio, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either.  I do look very hard in finding female models.  The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.

What is reasonable pay?
I hope you don't expect this thread to help you get any models when you're insulting all of us constantly.

Oct 20 08 01:29 am Link

Photographer

LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Hello I'm new here, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question.  How can you get female model to commit in working with you project without having bailout on you or never contact you back after they say to you that they are interested....but lied?  I've been have a terrible finding a female model to help me with my project & I'm trying to get together.  I'm in dire need of a female model, a dead serious one by next Friday.   I'm open for your feedback.  I need it.

what are you offering in trade for their time, re evaluate what you are indeed offering and what is being sought after
are you shooting for yourself or for the models bnook?

Oct 20 08 01:38 am Link

Photographer

picturephoto

Posts: 8687

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Worthems Photographs wrote:
Of course I offer reasonable pay, but I'm not going to offer them the farm either.  I do look very hard in finding female models.  The models so far here are too vain, two sandwiches short of a picnic or that's I'm a complete nobody, I've been doing this since 1999.

Okay, so you may be looking hard, but you are looking wrong.

Start by not insulting models in this thread.  Part of your job as a photographer is to nurture a fun and inviting shooting project to attract models - I imagine this is especially the case for fetish work.  If you're been shooting since 1999, you should probably have figured this out by now.  You're not exactly making any friends here.

Oct 20 08 01:39 am Link

Photographer

Bill Clearlake Photos

Posts: 2214

San Jose, California, US

You've been doing this since 1999 and suddenly there's a shortage of women who want to get naked and play with sticky gooey food?  I doubt that. 

There are plenty of women out there into all kinds of fetishes  -- and your stuff seems harmless and fun compared to many other fetishes out there. 

Maybe something about your approach is turning women off from working with you.

Oct 20 08 01:56 am Link