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Model

Angelus

Posts: 3642

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Glamour Boulevard wrote:
My problem has been finding male models who are not homophobs, oddly enough. I seem to find male models that I think would make great photographs then I talk to them and they tell me they do not pose for males.

I'd work with you. I'd have no problem posing for you.
Who should?

Your work reflects your skill.

Oct 11 05 08:21 pm Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

Angelus wrote:

I'd model for you. You don't even need to have a camera. *wink*.

Wait....did I just say that out loud? Let me retract tthat and get back to you.

*walks away very slowly waiting hopefully for Semora to stop him and say "Wait! I want to"* haha.

WAIT...GET BACK HERE!!! don't you go anywhere!

Oct 11 05 08:22 pm Link

Model

Angelus

Posts: 3642

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Semora wrote:

WAIT...GET BACK HERE!!! don't you go anywhere!

Yes Ma'am!!! On my way. ANYTHING you want.

Will that be all?

Oct 11 05 08:25 pm Link

Photographer

PDXImaging

Posts: 1476

Lake Oswego, Oregon, US

I have no issue shooting with a male model, I include males on occasion in shoots, but everytime I post such an image here, I get so few hits, I just don't bother posting them.

Oct 11 05 08:33 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

Semora wrote:

Finally someone was honest..lol I think it is one way to meet a potential someone. At least she would respect that your a photographer and wouldn't mind you shooting all the beautiful ladies...or would she want you to quit after her shoot..lol smile
okay okay i admit. I want to be a photographer not only because i love photography, feel as though the world is calling me, but so i can have an excuse to walk up to a very sexy male and say hey..intersted in modeling for me..lol  smile

You ask what was perceived as a sincere question pertaining to photographers and why they seem to selectively photograph female models only, then you slap the people whom took the time to answer your question with thought and not get off topic, by saying to a member who’s answer was tongue in cheek that his reply was the first honest answer?

There seems to be a lack of concern for the image most photographers are trying to uphold and that is we are honest and professionals and when working with a model, they can and should feel safe as well as not be worried about being “hit onâ€? before, during and after the shoot.
In your reply to this member, (less correct punctuation and capitalizations) you seem to indicate that the only reason for you to take up photography is to put you in touch with sexy males.

If this is your motive, I’d suggest that you try and get a job in another line of business.

Offensive, yes, I’d say your attitude towards the profession of photography needs an adjustment or more.

Do you need a reminder? This is not a dating site

Oct 11 05 08:46 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

PDXImaging wrote:
I have no issue shooting with a male model, I include males on occasion in shoots, but everytime I post such an image here, I get so few hits, I just don't bother posting them.

Gordon, you were at one of the photographer and model meet and greets I host and I think there was one new male model there then. Chris was very well recieved by most of the photographers and I think Rick (R. Olson (RO) as well as myself shot photos of Chris that night.
Since then, Chris was at the last meet and greet I hosted and I shot close to 45 images of him again.

Gordon, I hope to see you at another meeting in the near future.

Craig

Oct 11 05 08:50 pm Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Dan Hood MM/Moderator wrote:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/danhood/hhm.jpg
Just guess who the client was for that shot.

Summer's Eve?

Oct 11 05 09:01 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

theda wrote:
Summer's Eve?

Depends diapers...

I'd think realistically, it would be for a financial broker

Oct 11 05 09:04 pm Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
You ask what was perceived as a sincere question pertaining to photographers and why they seem to selectively photograph female models only, then you slap the people whom took the time to answer your question with thought and not get off topic, by saying to a member who’s answer was tongue in cheek that his reply was the first honest answer?

There seems to be a lack of concern for the image most photographers are trying to uphold and that is we are honest and professionals and when working with a model, they can and should feel safe as well as not be worried about being “hit onâ€? before, during and after the shoot.
In your reply to this member, (less correct punctuation and capitalizations) you seem to indicate that the only reason for you to take up photography is to put you in touch with sexy males.

If this is your motive, I’d suggest that you try and get a job in another line of business.

Offensive, yes, I’d say your attitude towards the profession of photography needs an adjustment or more.

Do you need a reminder? This is not a dating site

i wasn't saying he was the only honest one DUHHHHHHH!!!!!..i was just saying at least HE was honest and not hiding it. DUHHHH..MAn mm brings out the immaturity in me sometimes. I love it. I'm a proud parent, student, web designer, costume designer, graphic designer, and soon to be photographer. photography won't be my primary source of income. wel..who knows..I web design so i make nice money with that. one site can my two of my bills. one site a month is good. Anyway i was just letting the fella know that it could be a way. some relationships do happen that way. some MM's tend to be very tensed. Thank GOODNESS i don't socialize with some of you in the public.

Oct 11 05 09:08 pm Link

Photographer

Paige Photography

Posts: 4

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

I shoot male models, BUT they bring the best quality women to shoots so it all works out
LOL

Oct 11 05 09:43 pm Link

Photographer

photographybyStavros

Posts: 5402

Bainbridge Island, Washington, US

I am personally not apposed to working with men or women. Or both at the same time. Or groups .. I don't care.  I just like to do my thing. If I make a new friend or contact as a result. All the better. .

Oct 11 05 09:53 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Bowman

Posts: 285

Taos, New Mexico, US

I would be more than happy to shoot a male model. It's just my nit pick of whom I would like to shoot.

Since coming here there ARE a few I would love to work with. But distance is the downfall....

Oct 11 05 09:57 pm Link

Photographer

Shane Perez

Posts: 92

Brooklyn, New York, US

I don't usually shoot men for the same reason as alot of others, I just don't find it as visually appealing. I also have no clue as to how to pose a guy to make them look attractive, I just have no frame of reference. When I do use men in shoots, it tends to be for conceptual type work that calls for it, not for typical modeling photos. I often shoot abandoned buildings and will occasionally need to put someone in a shot for human interest. When that happens, I'll usually enlist one of my buddies that happens to be with me, or will set a timer/remote and use myself. I've also taken pictures of men for band promo shots, but that's a whole different animal. If someone wanted me to take glam shots, headshots, or anything along those lines for men I wouldn't have the slightest clue where to begin.

Oct 11 05 11:43 pm Link

Photographer

hypolux

Posts: 462

Atlanta, Georgia, US

There's plenty of scientific literature out there on the subject if you're REALLY interested in the matter, as opposed to just stirring up shit........then again, this is an MM Forum Post wink

Oct 11 05 11:47 pm Link

Photographer

J Haig

Posts: 359

Gananoque, Ontario, Canada

I get flack from female models quite often about how I don't photograph male models.  Which is completely untrue.  I photograph male models all the time.  True, they tend to be fishing, drinking beer, or barbecuing...or sometimes riding horses or golfing or shooting.  Some of them are handsome, and some aren't.  Some have beer bellies and beards and gray hair.  In fact, over the years I've actually made more money from shooting male models than female ones, given the nature of my client list.  I just don't photograph a lot of what would be considered "hot" male models.

Oct 12 05 01:36 am Link

Photographer

ProShotPhoto

Posts: 486

Bellingham, Massachusetts, US

I shot flowers and trees and landscape - and then at the beginning of winter decided to shoot people so I coudl continue shooting all winter no matter what the weather...

I shoot men and women but women are simply more plentiful.

I started charging when clients called asking for promotional shots for thier staff and of course expected to pay.

I have actually had more trouble with girlfreinds than I used to have before shooting models - I do it inspite of the negative affect it has had on my love life, because it is what I like to do.

Oct 12 05 01:42 am Link

Photographer

Hugh Jorgen

Posts: 2850

Ashland, Oregon, US

When i was young..

Actually the thought of shooting guys never entered my mind...

Now that im older it still dont enter my mind...

Im not biased and i do shoot guys..

But i would like to shoot some older women and they are even scarcer...

(:-------

Hj

Oct 12 05 01:55 am Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

hypolux wrote:
There's plenty of scientific literature out there on the subject if you're REALLY interested in the matter, as opposed to just stirring up shit........then again, this is an MM Forum Post wink

um, bingo

Oct 12 05 02:08 am Link

Photographer

Hoodlum

Posts: 10254

Sacramento, California, US

Craig Thomson wrote:

Depends diapers...

I'd think realistically, it would be for a financial broker

close it is for a water treatment engineering firm, MWH inc. I posted it to show modeling especially for men makes takes many forms

Oct 12 05 02:30 am Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
um, bingo

Yeah there is plenty of literature on ANYTHING we discuss in these forums..but aren't the forums here to hear other's opinions and questions? >>Issues whether they are big, small, silly or dumb? I think some of you need to take what is called a "Chill Pill" and step away from the computer get some FRESH air into those brains. Don't take things so seriously. I wouldn't call it stirring up ish...it is asking for honest opinions. If you don't like the thread...uhmm...leave. How hard is that..keep your one cents worth to yourself and move on with your life..DANG!!!

Oct 12 05 08:38 am Link

Model

DawnElizabeth

Posts: 3907

Madison, Mississippi, US

I just wanted to see naked chicks.

*sigh*

Oct 12 05 08:42 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

Dan Hood MM/Moderator wrote:

But Brian that is only in the net model world. If you look at commercial print agencies like R&L http://www.r-lmodels.com/ in fact a survey of like 20,000 of their job request found that males were asked for 47% of the time. age 30 to 39 the most often asked for.



https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/danhood/hhm.jpg
Just guess who the client was for that shot.

Viagra?

Oct 12 05 08:43 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

A lot of photographers I know call male models props.... so who is looking for a prop?

Oct 12 05 08:44 am Link

Photographer

Paul Ward

Posts: 183

New York, New York, US

I shoot men all the time.  It's just finding models of either sex WITHOUT tattoos that is my biggest problem these days.

Oct 12 05 08:44 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

Paul Ward wrote:
I shoot men all the time.  It's just finding models of either sex WITHOUT tattoos that is my biggest problem these days.

I know a few models that are getting them removed so they can get more jobs

Oct 12 05 08:46 am Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

Paul Ward wrote:
I shoot men all the time.  It's just finding models of either sex WITHOUT tattoos that is my biggest problem these days.

I heard about that one too, i guess this is where photoshop has to come in .. sad   And they do call men props..that's funny lol. It would be a different story if they called women props..lol But what someone said earlier was right..there are a lot of men models out there..especially in print, tv..everywhere..

Oct 12 05 08:48 am Link

Photographer

Wil with one L

Posts: 394

Malibu, California, US

Fuzzytek Photography wrote:
I could use a live-in female model that enjoys the camera (posed and spontaneous), goofey faces, spicey foods (I like to cook for people), and doesn't mind my offering her a massage at any time. Oh - if she's good with finances, business, sex, going to parties, dabbles in the arts, and knows how to coax my skills forward - I would be in heaven.

Amen, Brother.

Muses please apply.

Oct 12 05 08:52 am Link

Photographer

Paul Ward

Posts: 183

New York, New York, US

Benny wrote:

I know a few models that are getting them removed so they can get more jobs

the removal process...that's not foolproof is it?  i've never seen a "removed tattoo" before smile

Oct 12 05 08:53 am Link

Photographer

Paul Ward

Posts: 183

New York, New York, US

Semora wrote:

I heard about that one too, i guess this is where photoshop has to come in .. sad   And they do call men props..that's funny lol. It would be a different story if they called women props..lol But what someone said earlier was right..there are a lot of men models out there..especially in print, tv..everywhere..

i prefer to shoot the models without the tattoos BECAUSE i dont want to think about how i'm going to remove the tattoo later smile  just a failing in the way my mind works i guess..

small tattoos are not a problem.

i shot with a male model who had tattoos and brands from his frat days.  it was quite a challenge to pull off his shots without doing much photoshop work, but i did it.  the shoot did give me a headache and send up my blood pressure a few notches smile

Oct 12 05 08:56 am Link

Photographer

blacquejack

Posts: 299

Charles Town, West Virginia, US

Semora wrote:
I always wondered why there are so many men photographers that refuse to shoot men?

hmm, I would say they are not photographers, but kinky men with camera's. problme is, who is a photographer and who is a person with a camera!!!

Semora wrote:
What made you pic up a camera. or why don't you shoot men?

I shoot men, females, products, whatever pays the bills:)smile Most of the time I don't even notice the subject. In fact I had ladies come to my studio twice, haven't even recognized them the second time:)

Oct 12 05 08:56 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

Paige Photohgraphy wrote:
I shoot male models, BUT they bring the best quality women to shoots so it all works out
LOL

Thats what I do smile

Oct 12 05 08:56 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

Paul Ward wrote:

the removal process...that's not foolproof is it?  i've never seen a "removed tattoo" before smile

the 2 models i know are in the process one is a few weeks a head of the other, the skin area will be a little lighter that the rest but its nothing a little makeup can't fix

Oct 12 05 09:00 am Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

I guess the overall answer or opinion is..women are more appealing to photograph than men and it is not because the male photographer isn't comfort with his sexuality (just a small quote i heard a couple people say) or not because they were "DORKS" in their childhood and imagine this would enhance their possiblity to meet girls. Men shoot woman because...well...they want to..some men are nervous about photographing the men the wrong way...(someone stated earlier) which i would see y they stay away. I did assume men did it at first to meet girls..but now im finding out other wise..thanks guys/gals. I still think some urban photographers started just to see t&a. Eyecandy on the spot! lol.  Some I have spoken with admitted it anyway.

Oct 12 05 09:08 am Link

Photographer

Bill Tracy Photography

Posts: 2322

Montague, New Jersey, US

I would work with any male model, and I have worked with a few, including my nephew(MM 13786).

So far my experience has been that most of the male models that I have contacted refused to do TFP.  Some of them had the worst attitudes I've ever seen. Web cam shots or scanned polaroids, but they will only do paid work.  The few I have worked with were great guys, and I'm always looking to do more male models as it is something my portfolio is lacking.

Bill  yikes)

Oct 12 05 09:11 am Link

Model

Tina Ginger

Posts: 445

Magnolia, Arkansas, US

Semora wrote:
I always wondered why there are so many men photographers that refuse to shoot men? Some reasons i thought of. Some, and i say some, become photographers (shooting woman not nature and that good stuff) because they can't get girls at first and used this to get girls, maybe because they were SHORT, nerdy, not as attractive, whatever(you will see in this thread who will be offended by that wink  )..but then discovered girls don't care..they just want their free pictures, then the guy gets good and just do it for extra cash. If you did it for the ladies..just say it! Who cares. the world wil still turn!

What made you pic up a camera. or why don't you shoot men?

Isnt that why most guys bwant to be photogs to get to mess with beautiful women!!

Oct 12 05 09:21 am Link

Photographer

Paul Ward

Posts: 183

New York, New York, US

Benny wrote:

the 2 models i know are in the process one is a few weeks a head of the other, the skin area will be a little lighter that the rest but its nothing a little makeup can't fix

sounds good!

Oct 12 05 09:23 am Link

Photographer

John Van

Posts: 3122

Vienna, Wien, Austria

I shoot women because I want to shoot women. I shoot landscapes because I want to shoot landscapes. I don't shoot ducks, because I'm not interested in shooting ducks. I generally don't shoot men, because I'm not interested in shooting men.

It's my prerogative. It's simple. I'm not trying to get the girl, just the shot.

Oct 12 05 09:30 am Link

Model

Semora

Posts: 344

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

JvR wrote:
I shoot women because I want to shoot women. I shoot landscapes because I want to shoot landscapes. I don't shoot ducks, because I'm not interested in shooting ducks. I generally don't shoot men, because I'm not interested in shooting men.

It's my prerogative. It's simple. I'm not trying to get the girl, just the shot.

lol true. If you wanna shoot the sky shoot the sky. If you wanna shoot the lady bug shoot the lady bug. If you wanna shoot bush shoot bush.

Oct 12 05 09:39 am Link

Model

Angelus

Posts: 3642

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Semora wrote:
lol true. If you wanna shoot the sky shoot the sky. If you wanna shoot the lady bug shoot the lady bug. If you wanna shoot bush shoot bush.

Lmao. Umm. Are we still talking about photography here? Because 'shoot' and 'bush' in the same sentence just seems to resonate something else entirely.
lol.

Oct 12 05 09:54 am Link

Photographer

V Jeero

Posts: 146

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

I've shot men.  I've never been fortunate to shoot a really good model though.  Plenty of guys look good, they just have no idea what's going on.

In my experience, women are curvy, soft and sensual, so you light 'em soft.  Men have chiseled physiques, hard characteristics and muscular builds, so you light 'em hard. 

I've bent the rules both ways and have lit women harsh and men soft.  But it doesn't look the same.  Now how the heck do you post a picture in one of these here forums?

Oct 12 05 09:54 am Link