Michael DBA Expressions wrote:

Congratulations on the impending motherhood, Daniela! And best wishes for a joyous gestation, easy delivery, and speedy return to "fightin' weight/form."

Thanks!!

Nicolette wrote:

Chili wrote:
the fact that she is now trying TV and other professional acting venues, is the "personal reason" she is now giving up nude modeling.

This made me laugh.

Congrats on the pregnancy!!

Thank you

Ironically, I had an offer from a glamour publication that I really wanted to work with..I totally wish I could've said yes, but *looks down* um...nope

Daniela Victoria wrote:

I so need a new tiara.

Cause you know I have one. LOL.

You may be worthy of wearing a crown and I love that you have stood up for yourself but there is only room for one diva and this is her on the left in this pic. Her name is Diva.

-NOTICE- MOVING TO LA!!

Daniela Victoria wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

I have yet to tell the folks that I model nude...don't think they could handle it...so I keep that aspect of my modeling separate from their knowledge.  If I do anything AMAZING in the future that gets my name more "out there" then I will talk to them about it...otherwise I doubt they would ever notice.  I would LOVE to share some of the things I have created but I don't need the drama
I agree completely though...if they said something like that they would have to explain to me how I am the one disappointing THEM.

Peaches21 wrote:
I have yet to tell the folks that I model nude...don't think they could handle it...so I keep that aspect of my modeling separate from their knowledge.  If I do anything AMAZING in the future that gets my name more "out there" then I will talk to them about it...otherwise I doubt they would ever notice.  I would LOVE to share some of the things I have created but I don't need the drama
I agree completely though...if they said something like that they would have to explain to me how I am the one disappointing THEM.

Peaches, as a parent I looked at your portfolio and this is my response: Base on several pics especially this one you have the body and look that is meant for an artist to capture let alone be photographed. Not posing nude would be a shame for those fortunate enough to see such beautiful art would miss it if you were not posing nudes. I personally think that you not only should do more nude work but that you should look to do more work with artists.


https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/10777247

Rob Domaschuk wrote:
Been there.

My ex-wife once said to me, "you're lucky that I am so nice and let you shoot nudes."

WTF!?!?!  'let' me???

It's not about moral issues... it's not about 'what will the family think?'... it's not about it being a 'sin'... It is about power and how the spouse/sig other feels that they need to have power and control over you.

After you let them know that they can have that kind of control, they will see what other areas of your life that they don't like and make you give that up, too.

"It's ____ or me - you have to choose" is a form of emotional abuse.

Period.

Some would say that shooting nudes while it makes your significant other feel uncomfortable is emotional abuse as well.... but I assume she knew your passions and industry and the fact that you shot nudes before you were married.. Just saying..

I do agree with this post, but I do understand why families specifically would care, it's just all about how they show it. They shouldn't be discouraging but at the same time, why would your mom and dad want their little girl to expose her naked body to the world? And why would you want them to? It's just good parenting, I understand that. It's all in how THEY handle that.

Now if they make you feel like shit about it, that's a different story.

Jersey Shore wrote:
very good rant.

i think in most cases, it's simply JEALOUSY on a huge scale.

i think in most cases in SELFISHNESS on the part of the model on a huge scale

the needs of the one outweighing the needs of the many

we all have free will, and can choose to do anything we want in life, the mother of John Dillinger still loved her son, but he did disappoint her

i sincerely think this a poor thread to point an 18 year old "teenager" who is trying to decide if she should be a nude model or not, especially if her family is not pleased with the idea

there are very few people at age 40, who don't regret at least a few choices they made at age 18-25 and would have done things differently if given a 2nd chance, taking the advice of your family sometimes is the wiser thing to do, sometimes people do not realize that the consequences of their choices today can affect their lives forever, and the lure of 'fast/easy money' can affect people differently, and occasionally it is a downward spiral for some people.

just because things worked out for Daniella doesn't mean things will work out for every other model who may decide to do nude internet modeling

finally, you have to realize sometimes your choices can conflict with each other, and sometime you have to alter or rethink some of them

i think that if mrs. Barack Obama decided to pose nude for hustler magazine, her husband would feel that she disappointed him and his family, even though she has the right to decide that for herself

Stephen Markman wrote:
HOLY TIME WARP!!!

Did someone really bump a FOUR year old thread?!

If you go though the pages upon pages of this thread.. it has been bumped several times though out these grand 4 years..


OH.. and by the way... This thread gets my seal of approval

Peaches21 wrote:

I have yet to tell the folks that I model nude...don't think they could handle it...so I keep that aspect of my modeling separate from their knowledge.  If I do anything AMAZING in the future that gets my name more "out there" then I will talk to them about it...otherwise I doubt they would ever notice.  I would LOVE to share some of the things I have created but I don't need the drama
I agree completely though...if they said something like that they would have to explain to me how I am the one disappointing THEM.

When I got into photography/body painting I would have never have dreamed I would be selling prints and actually getting paid to do what I do..

Now.. it's not often, but I do get paid sometimes (and mostly by regular folks.. not models)

But the point being.. My family doesn't really know I do this... but as of late, people have been contacting me to by prints of this.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/22658930 18+

I think that's awesome.. and I think that picture right there will be my "outing" party..

My family will see that picture, my friends will see it... as I am going to hang that on my wall myself, so anyone that sees it, will know... "I painted that".

Stephen Markman wrote:
HOLY TIME WARP!!!

Did someone really bump a FOUR year old thread?!

Really?1 This thread has been active on and off for four years. It has been helpful and models could learn a lot from Daniela. So why complain?

Chili wrote:
i think that if mrs. Barack Obama decided to pose nude for hustler magazine, her husband would feel that she disappointed him and his family, even though she has the right to decide that for herself

I think that is a ridiculous analogy.

Now if she posed nude in college, would that affect her now?

Jeff Fiore wrote:

I think that is a ridiculous analogy.

Now if she posed nude in college, would that affect her now?

Seriously...
People over react sometimes.

"OMG! she/he posed nude so he/she cannot know how to run a country/city/state.. know anything about politics or anything of the like... because she/he pose nude.

Ashley Graham wrote:

Really?1 This thread has been active on and off for four years. It has been helpful and models could learn a lot from Daniela. So why complain?

Agreed - I love seeing this revived every few months.

Jeff Fiore wrote:

I think that is a ridiculous analogy.

Now if she posed nude in college, would that affect her now?

if there were nude photos (similar even to some of the MM models) of mrs obama floating around the internet, i doubt if mr obama would be president today

Chili wrote:

if there were nude photos (similar even to some of the MM models) of mrs obama floating around the internet, i doubt if mr obama would be president today

and THAT is unfortunate.
... "I see your Vagina.. so that must mean your husband would be a TERRIBLE president".

Scottsworld71 wrote:
after 4 years, this thread still stands up as one of the best, if not the very best, threads ever

*blush*

Thank you.

Over the years I have received countless PMs from photographers, models and even stylists...some happy to know they had someone they could turn to, some happy to have someone that feels the way they feel, some happy to have a thread to lean on.

I appreciate also the support of some amazing artists in this thread.

xoxox
-D

Jeff Fiore wrote:

I think that is a ridiculous analogy.

Now if she posed nude in college, would that affect her now?

Chili likes to hear himself talk. You know that.

We've spoken about this already

Louie Neira wrote:
yes, it's an old thread, but people need to keep hearing it, especially in the manner of work we do.

It's also happened to me, being the photographer who likes to do those "pervy" nude pictures of girls... I'M the "disappointment."

At the moment, I have many models tell me they would love to pose nude but too scared of what the family would say. In the past, I've done nude works that had to be hidden away like terrible, dirty family secrets that were never to be spoken of to friends and family members.

I think to myself, "what a shame - these girls are only young once. It's such a crime not to be able to celebrate their youthful nude beauty. What a travesty to be limited by the narrow-minded judgments of others"

All of the models who posed nude for me when they were older (over 30) always comment that they wished they could've had the courage to do pose when they were young. I try to let them know that they're still beautiful and worthy of having photos done, but yes, it truly was a missed opportunity.

I agree 100%...

Think of the number of nude models that would go UP if the social stigma would go away.. but no.
People have to look down on people who pose nude as "You must have low self esteem" or something.

That is far from the case.

Chili wrote:

if there were nude photos (similar even to some of the MM models) of mrs obama floating around the internet, i doubt if mr obama would be president today

Maybe that would have been a good thing then

Louie Neira wrote:
yes, it's an old thread, but people need to keep hearing it, especially in the manner of work we do.

It's also happened to me, being the photographer who likes to do those "pervy" nude pictures of girls... I'M the "disappointment."

At the moment, I have many models tell me they would love to pose nude but too scared of what the family would say. In the past, I've done nude works that had to be hidden away like terrible, dirty family secrets that were never to be spoken of to friends and family members.

I think to myself, "what a shame - these girls are only young once. It's such a crime not to be able to celebrate their youthful nude beauty. What a travesty to be limited by the narrow-minded judgments of others"

All of the models who posed nude for me when they were older (over 30) always comment that they wished they could've had the courage to do pose when they were young. I try to let them know that they're still beautiful and worthy of having photos done, but yes, it truly was a missed opportunity.

Yep, I'm the "disappointment" in my family too because I shoot "porn" and "exploit" women. Of course I don't give a damn what anyone thinks.

I shot a 41 year old model last night. It was an implied shoot but we also shot some nudes just for the hell of it. When she saw the nudes, she loved them and wanted me to post them. I frequently shoot older models because they are beautiful.

Daniela Victoria wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

When the line forms for nutt kicking, I wanna be there . . .

Daniela Victoria wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

Still one of the greatest Original Posts, AND the best thread ever on Modelmayhem's forum!  Daniela, you've written a master piece!

Extreme Body Art wrote:
Seriously...
People over react sometimes.

"OMG! she/he posed nude so he/she cannot know how to run a country/city/state.. know anything about politics or anything of the like... because she/he pose nude.

Right Jeff

Just ask Weiner

It is not illegal to be a nudist right?

Crystal Perido wrote:

Right Jeff

Just ask Weiner

It is not illegal to be a nudist right?

I don't know what Weiner has to do with any thing said... Weiner did more than just "pose nude on the internet"... A lot more.

Phoenyx wrote:
If my guy was that controlling, I'd ditch him and find someone else.  Men who don't want their girlfriend modeling because they don't want her to show skin are insecure about themselves.  The guy probably thinks that someone will see that pic and steal her from him.  My guy totally supports me in whatever I do including modeling.  He also thinks it's a total turn-on and wants copies of some of the hotter pics!  I'm also an actor and he's fine with me kissing another man in love scenes.  To have a successful relationship my Mom always told me, "You can have trust without love, but never love without trust."

Tim and I - together for almost 4 years.

And this is how it should be.  The stable, secure man response.  The right attitude is to think "Wow my girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband/whatever is a model, wow they are hot."  The insecure response is "You can't do this, I don't want people seeing you!"  Well why the F wouldn't you?